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Are Ninja Weak in Pvp?

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  • ZarathielZarathiel
    edited May 2016
    i dont think that ninja is "high skills required", is like playing a leblanc to be honest, high damage, a lot of i-frames/mobility/outplay-skills... if that is a high skill class then the reaper is a imposibruh skill required class.

    you know what is a high skills class now?, try to play a sorcerer, lancer, berserker, any other old class and try to kill a ninja :D if the ninja had less iframes and less mobility then or less CC you would have a high skill damage class, koreans arent people who know about class balance... i mean even blizzard have more class/character balance just now that any korean games (and blizzard suck on class balance).

    the use of the space bar to lend you vulnerable to a cc chain in pvp, well i think pvp more like: use cc, use your burst fast, and then run.
  • KiraboshiKiraboshi ✭✭✭
    Ninjas are very strong and slightly overpowered due to doing too much damage in pvp. The difference is Ninja wasn't designed to pander to scrubs like brawler/gunner was, so in order to actually take advantage of ninja you need to stop mashing spacebar and learn to avoid other classes combos instead of relying on built in get out of jail free cards the other new classes tend to have. If a ninja gets caught by a single backstab/Zerk KD-fear chain/Lightning trap/etc they are generally dead or very close to it, but at the same time you can do the same and explode other classes with a by landing either chakra or bladestorm.
  • Ninja is stupid strong. If you get one stagger confirm you can 100-0 in equalised.
  • Sellsilver wrote: »
    I'm not too sure what kind of nerfs ninja gets, but even with being so squishy, I think ninja could stand a good 10-15% overall damage nerf (except avalanche...maybe just me but every time I've even managed to make a connection with it in pvp it does like...2k damage?) I think they are pretty well balanced otherwise tbh. Actual skill required coupled with the squish, should have high damage, just not quite that high

    avalance hits 170k backcrit on reaper in 3s on the last hit. the first hit chunks for like 30% or something and kds which leads to easy followup 2nd 3rd hits.
    No, avalance is not some "2k damage" hit. Maybe if you avalance into a giant clusterfuck in cs the damage splits idk.
  • Some mobility skills should lose iframe and skills should have 1st hit stagger, not every freaking one-.-
  • edited May 2016
    imo ninja are OPest right now. Need nerf, especially on its mobility and number of CCs rather than DPS.

    How they can move any faster than any other classes even tho they put all glyph for mobility? It is just non-sense.

    It is just enough for them to have many dodge/evade skills, but they even move fasfest among all classes, this is what makes ninja OPest.
  • JerzyJerzy ✭✭
    They're okay in my opinion. Only skill I've seen that is a bit over the top is Fire Avalanche, which with the 3rd hit can pretty much one shot or at least hit 80k + in equalized gear.
  • They're not weak! They can barely go against really skilled lancer, warriors, and brawlers.
  • NoirLee wrote: »
    They are stronk.

    u my man
  • imo ninja are OPest right now. Need nerf, especially on its mobility and number of CCs rather than DPS.

    How they can move any faster than any other classes even tho they put all glyph for mobility? It is just non-sense.

    It is just enough for them to have many dodge/evade skills, but they even move fasfest among all classes, this is what makes ninja OPest.

    You genuinely don't have the slightest clue wtf you're talking about.
  • Meowmoko wrote: »
    I don't think they are weak. They have insane damage if you combo properly, while having a clear weakness being super squishy.

    They require a bit more finesse than the usual new class release, since you actually need to chain your staggers together to play them effectively. Half the ninjas you see trying to PvP are just trying to play them like Brawlers, i.e mashing face on keyboard.

    I suspect that people are going to be calling them OP once ninjas get better at their class. For now, I'm just grateful that this class isn't like the gunner/reaper/brawler release where new players that have never touched PvP before were taking a dump on PvP veterans.

    the question is how to combo correctly right now I'm just spamming random skills
  • Skystars wrote: »
    Meowmoko wrote: »
    I don't think they are weak. They have insane damage if you combo properly, while having a clear weakness being super squishy.

    They require a bit more finesse than the usual new class release, since you actually need to chain your staggers together to play them effectively. Half the ninjas you see trying to PvP are just trying to play them like Brawlers, i.e mashing face on keyboard.

    I suspect that people are going to be calling them OP once ninjas get better at their class. For now, I'm just grateful that this class isn't like the gunner/reaper/brawler release where new players that have never touched PvP before were taking a dump on PvP veterans.

    the question is how to combo correctly right now I'm just spamming random skills

    here the guide man. http://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/1343/ninja-basic-pvp-guide/p1
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