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  • DreadweaverDreadweaver ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    The healer was a complete idiot.
    It's like someone would come to dentist and say: I need anesthetic because it can be painful. And the doctor'd say: You know what??I just had a guy who didnt feel much pain. So I wont use it because he didn't need.

    For me this all looks same.

    Perfect tank won't need healer at all. Good will need sometimes and bad would die no matter how you heal. It's his job. Healer isn't equivalent of "slack-mode".

    Yes sometimes I meet tanks who don't need healer there but not everyone has same skill+latency(I have bigger as in not NA played. And in that dungeon laggs frequently itself. Despite I know how to use my mystic's one iframe I fail on laser sometime because of this all). And all people a r e d i f f e r e n t. To complain that you need to heal tank is as silly as what I started from.
  • DreadweaverDreadweaver ✭✭✭
    The only advise I can give here: Grow iron bark my friends. It will help if in this life :pleased:
  • sanj66sanj66 ✭✭✭✭
    Dreadweaver wrote: »
    The healer was a complete idiot.
    It's like someone would come to dentist and say: I need anesthetic because it can be painful. And the doctor'd say: You know what??I just had a guy who didnt feel much pain. So I wont use it because he didn't need.

    For me this all looks same.

    Perfect tank won't need healer at all. Good will need sometimes and bad would die no matter how you heal. It's his job. Healer isn't equivalent of "slack-mode".

    Yes sometimes I meet tanks who don't need healer there but not everyone has same skill+latency(I have bigger as in not NA played. And in that dungeon laggs frequently itself. Despite I know how to use my mystic's one iframe I fail on laser sometime because of this all). And all people a r e d i f f e r e n t. To complain that you need to heal tank is as silly as what I started from.

    did you read all the messages? as tw pointed out he wanted to healer to sit infront with him all the time and pocket heal him......taking your analogy thats like going to the dentist and asking for double the dose of anesthetic because you want it.
  • SpacecatsSpacecats ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dreadweaver wrote: »
    The only advise I can give here: Grow iron bark my friends. It will help if in this life :pleased:

    Sorry to see you caught so much flak from party members. Especially when things get competitive, you'll always have irate or bossy players telling you to play better or do things the way they want. Growing thicker skin is one way to separate yourself from the random drama, and ignoring the random person that's flaming you often just ends up with them stopping and bothering someone else instead. Still... it's unfortunate that people take attitudes like this in online games (not just TERA, I don't think I've played any online game with chat where this isn't a thing).

    The best thing you can do to make TERA a positive community is to try and stay positive yourself, focus on the parts of TERA you enjoy most, and ignore the haters.

    Saying all of that... there's a line between jerkiness and harassment. If you ever feel like you are being truly harassed by another player, report them to customer support and include as much detail about the harassment as possible.
  • DreadweaverDreadweaver ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    @Spacecats I don't mean to become wooden from top to toes. I mean if you don't have iron bark you will be much more depressed than happy. Not all ppl want to fill world with good stuff. Some live on the others grief.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dreadweaver wrote: »
    @Spacecats I don't mean to become wooden from top to toes. I mean if you don't have iron bark you will be much more depressed than happy. Not all ppl want to fill world with good stuff. Some live on the others grief.

    That kinda is what he said as well.
    And I do agree with you both. There's always ways to avoid trolls and haters, and there's the thicker skin method, that is effective in real world as well as online, where it's way harder to avoid jerks than online.
  • CatoriiCatorii ✭✭✭
    Tanks usually don't take damage on Verno, though. That's the thing. If you slip up and I need to heal you, fine, but you legit should not need someone sitting next to you in order to keep you healed. It's not rare to see a tank take a hit or two throughout the fight there, but if you were taking much more than that, you were doing something really wrong - considering he almost doesn't even hit the tank period.
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't worry too much about it. Other classes are slowly starting to figure out why tanks only play with their friends now. They're the ones who suffer the long queues, not us :)
  • DreadweaverDreadweaver ✭✭✭
    > @ElinLove said:
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    > That kinda is what he said as well.
    > And I do agree with you both. There's always ways to avoid trolls and haters, and there's the thicker skin method, that is effective in real world as well as online, where it's way harder to avoid jerks than online.

    Yes. True dat. I m not totaly eng speaking and may loose sence in long text sometimes, sorry :3
  • 5H96Y49G6D5H96Y49G6D ✭✭✭
    Skimmed but ur co.plaining about ppl leaving yet ur paety wiped 4 or 5 times ........

    Logic
  • roxxapoxxroxxapoxx ✭✭✭
    ElinLove wrote: »
    roxxapoxx wrote: »
    Sorry but don't q anything if you have severe lag. It's really inconvenient and inconsiderate for other players.

    You do know lag an connection spikes happen out of nowhere in TERA right?

    Back to topic, as a kinda main Priest, I gotta say that in DF you really don't need MUCH heal in Verno, but to refuse healing a tank there is beyond stupid and useless. Even less if DPS is also needing heals and not getting. Like pointed that there was a mystic, why not just fill the land with motes? Jeez it's saddening to see who takes my task every now and then... In DF (normal and hard) I've always healed tank when needed, you don't really need much to do it honestly.
    One thing is a red eater tank that doesn't block crap, the other is refusing and throwing a tantrum like a spoiled kid because tank needs some topping every now and then.

    I cannot say how the match went cause well, I wasn't there. But it really doesn't take much to heal tank at Verno, nor DPS for that matter. I mean after you went through Prima and Vera, you're set.

    Looking at both sides tho, at the healer's side: you really do NOT need more than one person at the front. You don't need a pocket healer at front, unless specific cases like learning run or laggy tank (back at line one of my comment please, before saying crap). If you're in need of a pocket healer at front, you should be doing more learning runs before queuing for the real deal.

    Regarding kicks: there's always a whole lot of cases that lead to it, people ask to get kicked because they have no time to run/have to go, got tired ot it, someone IS underperforming beyond the point the group can deal with (this can be a case of elitism OR NOT), bunch of whinnie the pooh players that just need to blame someone for their sucking, anything. I won't say against or in favor, but if the run was that bad I see you didn't lose much for getting out of it and well, they'll take quite a while to get a new tank there.

    If it's tera-side everyone will be lagging. That's a different story. I'm talking about people who know very well their latency + their internet connection is not good enough to play thios game. I only just now started experiencing Tera-side lag after years of not having any issues. People blame Tera a bit too much for their lag.
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    roxxapoxx wrote: »
    ElinLove wrote: »
    roxxapoxx wrote: »
    Sorry but don't q anything if you have severe lag. It's really inconvenient and inconsiderate for other players.

    You do know lag an connection spikes happen out of nowhere in TERA right?

    Back to topic, as a kinda main Priest, I gotta say that in DF you really don't need MUCH heal in Verno, but to refuse healing a tank there is beyond stupid and useless. Even less if DPS is also needing heals and not getting. Like pointed that there was a mystic, why not just fill the land with motes? Jeez it's saddening to see who takes my task every now and then... In DF (normal and hard) I've always healed tank when needed, you don't really need much to do it honestly.
    One thing is a red eater tank that doesn't block crap, the other is refusing and throwing a tantrum like a spoiled kid because tank needs some topping every now and then.

    I cannot say how the match went cause well, I wasn't there. But it really doesn't take much to heal tank at Verno, nor DPS for that matter. I mean after you went through Prima and Vera, you're set.

    Looking at both sides tho, at the healer's side: you really do NOT need more than one person at the front. You don't need a pocket healer at front, unless specific cases like learning run or laggy tank (back at line one of my comment please, before saying crap). If you're in need of a pocket healer at front, you should be doing more learning runs before queuing for the real deal.

    Regarding kicks: there's always a whole lot of cases that lead to it, people ask to get kicked because they have no time to run/have to go, got tired ot it, someone IS underperforming beyond the point the group can deal with (this can be a case of elitism OR NOT), bunch of whinnie the pooh players that just need to blame someone for their sucking, anything. I won't say against or in favor, but if the run was that bad I see you didn't lose much for getting out of it and well, they'll take quite a while to get a new tank there.

    If it's tera-side everyone will be lagging. That's a different story. I'm talking about people who know very well their latency + their internet connection is not good enough to play thios game. I only just now started experiencing Tera-side lag after years of not having any issues. People blame Tera a bit too much for their lag.

    Although it is like saying anyone who is unlucky enough to be on the bad node on Tera's routing provider since valk patch should not enjoy the anniversary event. Personal experience where I only got a huge number of ping spikes recently despite being on full cable with no other routing service on.

    But regardless you are right to an extent, because for most tanks even at 300-400ms in DFHM especially considering that the first two bosses are cleared you shouldn't be needing as much heals as you would need resses, and if dps is high enough mechs should be way less and you should be handling this with relative ease.
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