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Would it be Possible to Buff VSH drops?

MeriliahMeriliah
in PvE Discussion
At the moment, it feels completely useless to even run vsh over other dungeons. Because of the event a couple of weeks ago, I don't know anyone that even needs talismans anymore, now of course vsh drops more Badges than vsnm, but for the time investment for vsh it just doesn't feel worth it.

For example, vsh doesn't even drop Lakan boxes therefore it's really hard to make any consistent money off of vsh, which means that it's more profitable for people to just spam the lower tier dungeons like VSnm and TSnm.

I still have yet to see a design drop, granted I've only done 6 VSHs so far, so it's not the biggest sample size, but most of my friends I've talked with have seen little to no design drops yet.

Now, I'm not sure if taking the BP route where a design is guaranteed is the best option, but it would at the very least give people a solid reason to run VSH over the other dungeons.
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  • VadernickVadernick ✭✭
    edited June 2017
    I have to agree to that, the amount of time it takes to run the dungeon and the rewards I've gotten so far is simply not worth it. Barely any accessory drops (which you shouldnt need when running the dungeon in the first place), you cant make money because all the mats are soulbound and doesnt even drop the lakan's scale or a box and neither have I seen a design or even just a belt drop in 5 runs.
    Seeing that it takes a "decent" group to clear the dungeon in 45-60 minutes a run just to get a chance on some mats that you might not even need if you don't need them just makes the dungeon unnecessary to run besides for challenging the hardest dungeon currently in the patch.
  • TheNobleNobleTheNobleNoble ✭✭✭
    Vadernick wrote: »
    I have to agree to that, the amount of time it takes to run the dungeon and the rewards I've gotten so far is simply not worth it. Barely any accessory drops (which you shouldnt need when running the dungeon in the first place), you cant make money because all the mats are soulbound and doesnt even drop the lakan's scale or a box and neither have I seen a design or even just a belt drop in 5 runs.
    Seeing that it takes a "decent" group to clear the dungeon in 45-60 minutes a run just to get a chance on some mats that you might not even need if you don't need them just makes the dungeon unnecessary to run besides for challenging the hardest dungeon currently in the patch.

    Well you do get the mats for the BiS gear (tradable/untradable), feedstock, nocts and other tradable stuff. just open your eyes man
  • VadernickVadernick ✭✭
    Please specify that "other tradeable stuff" and sure the dungeon may drop like 200 nocs but in the process of the dungeon you waste way more nocs than you get in return and barely any feedstock which isnt really worth much after all the feedstock drop events. So no the dungeon doesn't have any worth to run besides skilled and achieves,
    The badge is faster to get in vs, the banner in vhn/vhh and the talismans got dropped alot during the highlight.
    Nothing drops of worth that is sellable as said before (no box, no scale and less nocs than you consume in a run) unless you know of some secret tradeable item that only drops for you.
    Alot of friends and myself have run the dungeon in seperate runs and nobody got a design nor a belt in over 30 combined runs.
  • StevenAnthonyStevenAnthony ✭✭✭✭
    Meriliah wrote: »
    At the moment, it feels completely useless to even run vsh over other dungeons. Because of the event a couple of weeks ago, I don't know anyone that even needs talismans anymore, now of course vsh drops more Badges than vsnm, but for the time investment for vsh it just doesn't feel worth it.

    For example, vsh doesn't even drop Lakan boxes therefore it's really hard to make any consistent money off of vsh, which means that it's more profitable for people to just spam the lower tier dungeons like VSnm and TSnm.

    I still have yet to see a design drop, granted I've only done 6 VSHs so far, so it's not the biggest sample size, but most of my friends I've talked with have seen little to no design drops yet.

    Now, I'm not sure if taking the BP route where a design is guaranteed is the best option, but it would at the very least give people a solid reason to run VSH over the other dungeons.

    maybe you want another absses especial aniversary and loot table are vm mats x 5 now
  • MeriliahMeriliah ✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Let me make myself clear, I don't want the drops to be ridiculous but as it stands it is functionally useless to run vsh. It feels that no one who plays this game rigorously needs talismans right now, thanks to the drop event, and only the people who play this game like that are likely to even be able to clear VSH in the first place. On top of that Talismans and The belt are the only drops unique to VSH at the moment, every other material is far easier, and far more efficient to farm elsewhere.

    Which brings me to my overall point VSH does not feel rewarding to run right now

    On top of that The patch notes lie, Lakan's boxes don't drop from VSH the amount of t 12 FS you get from the dungeon is pitiful, as far as I've seen Lakan's Scales don't drop from the dungeon either.

    There are a couple of things that I would love to see happen is A) don't lie in the patchnotes and add boxes in, and B ) Increase the drop chance of Designs greatly And/or make only weapon designs drop from vsh.
  • TheNobleNobleTheNobleNoble ✭✭✭
    Y'all just complain too much
  • ConsonanceConsonance ✭✭
    run vshm to gear, run 20 man in a month to make bank!
  • saltedcaramelsaltedcaramel ✭✭✭
    why are people who cant clear vshm even talking...?
  • ArdireArdire ✭✭✭✭✭
    remember when running the hardest content would drop you BOE regent gear that you'd split with your party and steadily make bank from?

    pepperidge farm remembers
  • MeriliahMeriliah ✭✭
    Trust me, I wish that designs were a 100% drop from vsh, but I understand how that could mess with the market, but as it stands it just feels absolutely unrewarding to go through the dungeon and get nothing. [update 14 clears and 0 designs]
  • saltedcaramelsaltedcaramel ✭✭✭
    Right now VSHM is a "gearing dungeon" in the sense that the only relevant drops from VSHM are the Deathwrack mats (the feedstock and noct do not count, feed amt is pathetic and you'll use more noct than it'll ever give you), so there's really no objective reason to run it once you get your desired Deathwrack gear pieces. Considering VSHM is the hardest content in game at the moment I don't think one or two Lakan's chest(s) and Follower's crate(s) each would be out of place. It still probably won't make the dg profitable considering the cost of consumes used (haven't done the math yet), but it lowers the net loss at least.
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    Vadernick wrote: »
    Please specify that "other tradeable stuff" and sure the dungeon may drop like 200 nocs but in the process of the dungeon you waste way more nocs than you get in return and barely any feedstock which isnt really worth much after all the feedstock drop events. So no the dungeon doesn't have any worth to run besides skilled and achieves,
    The badge is faster to get in vs, the banner in vhn/vhh and the talismans got dropped alot during the highlight.
    Nothing drops of worth that is sellable as said before (no box, no scale and less nocs than you consume in a run) unless you know of some secret tradeable item that only drops for you.
    Alot of friends and myself have run the dungeon in seperate runs and nobody got a design nor a belt in over 30 combined runs.

    I burn a blue noc on last boss every run XD
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    actually comparing to previous hardest 5 men dungeon, VSHM's drop is not bad. If u run with static and ppl know what to pass. It's just, I am not confident without voice chat in this dungeon, require alot communication.
  • kknaexkknaex ✭✭
    And i got most of my vm9 mats from bg boxes, LOL. Now what is the best way to farm banner and badge? should I stick with bgs or doing vsnm and annoying vh?
  • 5H96Y49G6D5H96Y49G6D ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    > @kknaex said:
    > And i got most of my vm9 mats from bg boxes, LOL. Now what is the best way to farm banner and badge? should I stick with bgs or doing vsnm and annoying vh?

    Its like this every patch exploit events to get vm gear

    Do BG afk

    Now if its taking you and 1hr or more to complete dungeon its called git gud and yeas imm not gud but it sounds like which is true not many ppl masterd vshm yet to the point they can farm it in thsir sleep do 15m runs.

    The last boss max should take 13m? Darkan sbould take 10m in a "decent" party. The second troll [filtered] boss should just be removed.
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