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Noctenium Infusion Supply
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Nope, you came here to insult 2 forum users and even you didnt make a serious contribution.
Your posts haves been so far only a rant.
Well i mean noct is nice and all and gives nice effects but imo people got too dependant on it. It was introduced with alliance. Before that people cleared dungeons fine without noct and i am pretty sure they can do it now aswel.
I see noct as a conveniance item honestly. Its good to have but the game wont break without it.
On a note: Maybe just add the noctenium effect to the Prime battle Solution. Thats should solve it, and change noct rewards for something else something usefull like idk federation bills and update the federation npc with something cool or add a new like token thing where you can exchange them for a item that race-changes a costume you use it on so people will stop spamming support with costume swap tickets xD
do you even play this game? Can you make gold? Can you make 3K each day? that can be 1.5K Noct added to your daily Noct from broker.
Learn to play this game instead of making threads to get things. Play the game, earn stuff, you make threads to get stuff and then you say I even play the game? You can't supply yourself Noct and You tell me if I am even playing the game?
Don't we have enough stable ways? Noct boxes from events, soon Sun Festival for example/bam events, POP which takes 5-8 mins to run (30-50 each run), VG quests reward them, BROKER and BROKER and BROKER.
people just don't wanna spend their golds, You know the meaning of Supply and Demand? I give you an example, There is 1 designs for VM9 warrior weapon and there are 20 warriors that needs it. They can't get the designs anymore, because 2 warriors just got them, so 18 players needs design, 2 things they can do, run and run till they get one or wait and wait till one of those 2 warriors make another VM weapon and sell it.
But when there are pages of Noct on broker and it is a lot, Does Supply and Demand and shortage apply here? Nope, just don't want to spend the gold. So lets make a thread and ask for it.
Uh yeah broker, but prices has been rising for a while now, where do they restock and sell in such quantities?
Edit: Since prices are rising, the current supply cannot satisfy the demand for nocteniums. Basic economics.
When i first join Tera, around TSHM patch noctenium was already an almost must-thing and it is understandable, because it boosts your damage, allows dungeon to be cleared faster and possibly skipping mechanics reduces time spent in dungeon. Which also means spending less time per boss meaning less room for mistakes and possibly wipes. VSHM 's imperator cage can one shot you even if you do it right, i am not sure if you are aware of that. ( if you get unlucky rng crits everybody who have 1-2 debuff stacks) prepare for reset, if your healer is outta self ress and if your total party have low dps, more cages are gonna happen.
If it is really gonna be going back to not using noctenium at all, then i think the implementation of noctenium should not even be here in the first place.
@LesbianVi Is it okay to answer these questions?
1.Have you cleared VSNM?
2. Have you cleared VSHM?
3. are the toons u use to do VSHM geared in misery, VM7,VM8, VM8.5 or VM9?
4. how many nocteniums do u use for VSHM per boss
5. what other consumables do u use during VSHM? (bulgogi, prime replenishment,recovery, 50% health pot, sarberry, divine infusion)
6. what other dungeons do u do besides VSHM, and long does it take for you to clear the dungeon or ?? minutes per boss , inclusive of maybe wipes and resets or clean runs
7. how many total runs do u have on VSHM from all of your toons
8. Do you use noctenium infusions at all?
9. Have you done any harrowhold?
10. Have you tried doing harrowhold without nocteniums?
And atm there is almost no incentive to grind VSHM after you are done with materials, which i already am. I love doing end game content and keep doing it to test my skills and improve myself.
@66ECX7NAN doing VSHM without noctenium is totally viable but at what cost?the mechanics can be punishing, runs wil be slower and you might end up spending more OTHER consumables than you trying to save noctenium ,more hp% pot used, goddes blessing, resets. Anybody would know that first 2bosses wants to be cleared as soon as possible thus we want to use nocteniums. Lakan is probably the easiest among the bosses in VSHM which i wouldn't want to be too worried about, but if a healer fails to sleep the boss at the wrong timing = party wipe.
If i want to farm or save nocteniums, i rather use my alts to do iod /ace and use those profits/tokens to sell to buy nocteniums off broker but it is still not gonna be enough.
It isnt about me not willingly to spend money for nocteniums, ther are other consumables that will cost you along the run while tackling end game content. Unless i just dont do VSHM at all. this way yea sure, i can totally save up alot of money by constantly spamming solo/iod/or other low tier dungeon. But is this really what most players do? i dont think so.
Never has noctenium been a must in TSHM, not even SCHM, cause my parties did it perfectly fine without it. Even more of the HM dungeons were doable without it. So saying it is a absolute requirement is not true.
As for the clear times / mechanics - If your group is good they should have no problems with them, mistakes can happen and there is more room for error, but a DPS race to deal tons of damage to skip mechanics is not a thing to measure skill upon.
As for the imperator cage - arent they changing it to be iframable soon? At least thats what i recall from Ktera changes.
Noctenium was just a stupid way to level damage in the game for PVP and PVE, imo it shouldnt been implemented to begin with.
is simple as that. if u can afford consumables like lamb / rootbeer i dont see why u cant afford nocteniums.
in the last month the anniversary event gave sht tons of stuffs which u could sell it for gold. and i dont think the noc is higher than 2g ea.
and as far as i know, in vshm drops etching boxes + goddess gemstones.. enough to refund the gold u've spent there.
i personally bought 50k noc in the last week cuz i didnt want to farm dgs for it. and if u say u dont have gold?
pls, u have a lot of ways to get gold. buy emp, play dg, play bg, do crafting, do rally. do CU..... pfff. if u're lazy af and dont do anything then ofc u will lack gold, but if u're doing it then why are u complaining about it. work done, gold got. 1 box from CU/Rally is enough for all the noc u need in this life... so. smh about ur post.
PS:but i agree adding new ways to get noc / consumables / foods, by playing or w/e
Anyway I burned around 20k noct since this patch started (means I am -20k from where I started including the nocts I got since then) before VSHM used it in VSNM sometime in VHHM as well. Now only in VSHM.
That is true partially, but can that be said the same for harrowhold? and certain bosses has dps check, it is break or casualty, or more time spent per boss and other consumabels which will eventually cost more than one trying to save noctenium.
@NemisBrawler
I still have a good amount of noctenium in supply ,and i play a shittones of dungeon and doing alot of a daily solo dungeon almost spending average 2-6 hours per day in Tera, you call that lazy? im earning around 32k gold per day not including the cost covered to spend on VSHM did you even read my previous posts on how many toons i do dungeons and solo vanguard? I can wipe the trade broker right now of nocteniums, but it wont even satisfy my entire month of VSHM spam, and you will need ALOT of nocteniums in Harrowhold. That is me alone and there are more people who are finding nocteniums supply a problem.
90 runs of VSHM i've only seen about 3-5 etching boxes and 2 goddess gemstone, which doesnt even go to me, even if it does, its not gonna be enough to cover alot of stuffs. they dont drop commonly.
As lancer main, this class uses a lot of nocts lol. Most times I find myself using around 500-1000 nocts per run depending on how long the runs are. I know we can play without noct, but I always need it as a tank, especially when I am maximizing my efficiency with skilled groups. People also use it so it's faster runs and sometimes it can be a difference between breaking or failing at a shield break or really close clear or wipe. When harrowhold comes back, noctenium is a super must since there are some real important shield checks and other things.
While there are ways to farm noctenium, you'd have to grind for weeks just to save up a decent amount. For most, that is actually not good and takes too long. What I have been doing is at times if I see a good deal on broker, I usually buy some in bulk. The problem is that by doing this I don't get anything back in return. I know we can make gold in other ways to combat that but I think what some don't understand is that there is no efficient way to farm noctenium effectively, which has caused prices for noctenium to be higher because of supply and demand. Recent temporary events help with noctenium but that's more like a bandaid.
But.. I have no other options