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Noctenium Infusion Supply

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  • I think noctenium was initially meant for PVP, alliance and all you know, and back then it wasn't hard at all to farm or even craft.
    It gives mainly PVP buffs, the skill dmg increase is barely considerable, so I don't really know why you need such a small buff in PVE that much to run your content. Low confidence on your dps?
  • canikizucanikizu ✭✭✭
    I think noctenium was initially meant for PVP, alliance and all you know, and back then it wasn't hard at all to farm or even craft.
    It gives mainly PVP buffs, the skill dmg increase is barely considerable, so I don't really know why you need such a small buff in PVE that much to run your content. Low confidence on your dps?

    Noctenium gives 5-10% more damage for PvE, same increase if you upgrade from VM8 to VM9. Why upgrade gears in PvE if it gives you such small damage buff imrite? You don't need noct to pvp either. Low confidence on your skill?
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    So, let me put this out.

    MWA: 6-7G
    SES:100-120G
    Extensive: 10G
    Premium: 10-12G
    SB:15-20G
    Crystals:500-1k G
    Noct: 1-1.5 G
    MES: 6-7G (forgot this one)
    Feedstock also cheap as heck both t11, t12, had GF token event, had Lamb event, Noct event just now.

    And now with these f..ed up economy and with all these being out there cheap as heck, and allows you to enchant, awaken gear way easier and I am DISGUSTING for not wanting more stuff and you guys are PRO?

    Every circle that we get new gears prices go up, this event they went to the gutter and still every single day, people making threads and demand for more stuff to be handed over and anyone oppose that getting name called.

    I remember years ago and compare to this gear patch and all these threads demanding stuff, makes me wonder about the purpose of the forums, is it here to ask for stuff?

    PS: If you don't want farm Noct and only run VSHM whole day, it is not anyone's problem that you are running out of Noct, you can't get everything from just one dungeon. Is it so hard for you to understand? Also you know what Sun Festival is?

    Stop asking for cheaper stuff, you people just ruined the game already, if it is too hard for you to get what you want, just leave. Thanks.

    PS: you can name call me more, it won't make you a grown up.
  • toufutoufu ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Stop dodging my questions, this is why people can't take you seriously, you dont even play the game, nor even do anys mid tier dungeon, do you?

    We dont just farm VSHM, we do alot of other stuffs, and this isnt just about VSHM, it is gonna be a problem when harrowhold comes.
    From what i can concluded you just do some irrelevant stuffs in Tera and AFK or probably play tradebroker and get salty when events overflow the market and you cant make profit from it. Otherwise proof me wrong, what do you even do in game.

    You think we're not investing enough time on playing dungeon/grind? are you crazy? we're gonna sit around and spend 12hours to farm our stuffs? spend 1-2hr per end game dungeon? what is wrong with you man ,go do a VSHM once at least and you will know what I mean.

    Btw here are some guides, you will need it.
    https://sites.google.com/view/veliksanctuary/home
    https://www.essentialmana.com/veliks-sanctuary/

    I hereby asking you to answer these questions again. Do you play the game? IF so please answer the stuffs below. So people can start taking you seriously.
    @LesbianVi Is it okay to answer these questions?

    1.Have you cleared VSNM?
    2. Have you cleared VSHM?
    3. are the toons u use to do VSHM geared in misery, VM7,VM8, VM8.5 or VM9?
    4. how many nocteniums do u use for VSHM per boss
    5. what other consumables do u use during VSHM? (bulgogi, prime replenishment,recovery, 50% health pot, sarberry, divine infusion)
    6. what other dungeons do u do besides VSHM, and long does it take for you to clear the dungeon or ?? minutes per boss , inclusive of maybe wipes and resets or clean runs
    7. how many total runs do u have on VSHM from all of your toons
    8. Do you use noctenium infusions at all?
    9. Have you done any harrowhold?
    10. Have you tried doing harrowhold without nocteniums?

    You dont understand the state of Supply and demand of Tera and you DONT even play the game.
  • LesbianVi wrote: »
    So, let me put this out.

    MWA: 6-7G
    SES:100-120G
    Extensive: 10G
    Premium: 10-12G
    SB:15-20G
    Crystals:500-1k G
    Noct: 1-1.5 G
    Feedstock also cheap as heck both t11, t12, had GF token event, had Lamb event, Noct event just now.

    And now with these f..ed up economy and with all these being out there cheap as heck, and allows you to enchant, awaken gear way easier and I am DISGUSTING for not wanting more stuff and you guys are PRO?

    Every circle that we get new gears prices go up, this event they went to the gutter and still every single day, people making threads and demand for more stuff to be handed over and anyone oppose that getting name called.

    I remember years ago and compare to this gear patch and all these threads demanding stuff, makes me wonder about the purpose of the forums, is it here to ask for stuff?

    PS: If you don't want farm Noct and only run VSHM whole day, it is not anyone's problem that you are running out of Noct, you can't get everything from just one dungeon. Is it so hard for you to understand? Also you know what Sun Festival is?

    Stop asking for cheaper stuff, you people just ruined the game already, if it is too hard for you to get what you want, just leave. Thanks.

    PS: you can name call me more, it won't make you a grown up.

    Sorry lovely, you seem to forget that these are "forums" where anything and everything can be subject to criticism. It's hilarious that when you want something you expect people to turn a blind eye yet when someone else does the same exact thing you throw your arms up in air about it. Be consistent. Stop giving yourself passes and bashing others for the same damn thing.

    And you seem to blame the community for ruining the economy which simply isn't correct. The mongo events and bam events that EME gave us ruined the economy. It still hasn't recovered to this day.
  • you guys fail to realize that you don't NEED noc to run a dungeon. It's a consumable! You don't see people demanding EME to pay them back for the food and other things they use...ex. Nostrums for people who are not Elite etc.
    Want the boost in DPS? Then work for it. Runs dungeons that give you noc or find a way to make gold to buy it.
  • toufutoufu ✭✭✭
    @kotorikisu please re-read the entire thread about why we think noctenium is needed and why is it depleting so fast. spend average 4hours daily to farm end game and non-end game to recover the prices. money required for buying design, average 350-500k per weapon.

    No noctenium VSHM run? sure, longer runs, Let me know how many average VSHM runs can you do everyday and how long can you keep that up. I hope you
    you are willingly to spend 50% health pots,normal pots and goddess blessing when it is actually needed and i wish you the best for forever smooth, clean and non-tilt run in VSHM. In addition, i would want a video of you and your 20man raid clearing harrowhold without nocteniums.

  • canikizucanikizu ✭✭✭
    kotorikisu wrote: »
    you guys fail to realize that you don't NEED noc to run a dungeon. It's a consumable! You don't see people demanding EME to pay them back for the food and other things they use...ex. Nostrums for people who are not Elite etc.
    Want the boost in DPS? Then work for it. Runs dungeons that give you noc or find a way to make gold to buy it.

    And people do run other dungeons to get noctenium. But it's unrealistic to run 10 BRNM to get enough noct to do ONE VSHM run. Of course broker has always been the goto way to get noctenium currently, but there's a reason why noctenium has been rising from 70s since Alliance was removed to 2g currently. There is not enough supply out there to make up for the demand.

    I only use Noct to run exclusive VSHM and still don't get enough to cover the cost. You can say that you don't need noct to run dungeon however you want. Are you also the type that not use Nostrum and Bravery and health potion in dungeons because they are consumables too?
  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't listen to LesbianVi honestly. S/he uses HP 8% roll on her chest, as a brawler. Tut tut. No wonder they have zero issues being inefficient.

    Vi, the supply of noctenium has dwindled, forcing top tier players to spend massive amounts of gold on their consumables that were only a few patches ago much easier to collect is criminal, especially given the dismal state of effort-vs-reward that comes from VSHM. VSNM, VHNM and VHHM are all easier, take less time, and are far more rewarding for the playerbase, let alone the fact those three are doable on alts.

    Take a look at the market for noctenium and see for yourself. A 400% increase in price over the course of a year is staggering, far higher than any other consumable has risen in price.

    Bring back DSU tbh. Only dungeon that's had a genuinely decent reward for the effort needed to complete it.
  • StevenAnthonyStevenAnthony ✭✭✭✭
    greedy people never farm and never paid gold for get nocteriums...........................
  • toufutoufu ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    @StevenAnthony
    The people who are greedy are people who does not have a valid counter- comment on why we should find other options to obtain noctenium and understanding why it is depleting. Just soo they can AFK broker and sell them at 10g per noctenium for profit without having to run the dungeon

  • DWDE6GFGWHDWDE6GFGWH ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    greedy people never farm and never paid gold for get nocteriums...........................

    This dude is also from CH, he can't run VSHM or HH so nothing helps him here and decides to keep whiteknighting. Seriously guys, if you don't run harder dungeons can you just not post..
  • i have 100k noc...2g each? :O going to sell them now, thx!!
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    @toufu

    Then making avaliable crafting resources to get nocs that way could be one of the better choices, that way lowbies could join the gathering for mats and sell them on broker for a reasonable price if gathering gives you enought mats to make it worth for everyone.

    I really don't understand why crafting is abandoned this way for BHS and players, crafting should be the way to get consumables of this kind.
  • Would be nice to get via bam drop the materials to make nocteniums and the recipe for them buying from a merchant. I believe is possible to craft them but we dont have materials right? Correct me if wrong.
    Doing this we can revive the open world grind, open world pvp and maybe can revive the crafting too.
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