Noctenium Infusion Supply

Tewii · June 2017

It's funny that people who are against this repeat the same rhetoric of "You don't want to farm" despite people willing to, and farming them currently, and bring up arguments that are easily shut down and then fall back onto the "I don't actually care, why do you keep talking to me" act.

Really makes you think.

LesbianVi · June 2017

@toufu as I said, I am referring to current situation and upcoming Sun Festival, as you saw I am not blind and I understand that crafting them is dead, but remember even when they were there, people needs to farm, you might not asking for hands out here, but look around the forums since the gear patch and you get why I am just really in a mood to stand these kinda posts. As I said, seriously look at the prices of mats and see what a messed economy we have now, gold sink doesn't exists, people are siting at large of piles of gold, asking for EMP, EMP ratio is gone to 1:40-45. In the other hand, casual can't make gold, because everything is just too cheap to sale or people don't even need to buy, so Noct is only profitable way to make gold for them now. And now we take that away from them, newbies, casual goes away and things get even nastier and servers emptier.

Am I really being wrong here?

toufu · June 2017

@LesbianVi
Goldsink doesnt exist because ppl don't do end game dungeon. they just settle with mid tier gear and do not use consumables and takes 1h-2hr to do an end game dungeon or AFK the rest of the time until some event happen that is multibox or abuse-able to overflow the market.

An end game dungeon without consumables will results boss fights become long and more rooms for mistakes, and people, start to tilt from long runs. That is why ppl go all out on end game dungeon and also and use the other times to do solo vanguard or do mid tier dungeons to make up the for the consumables spent on dungeon. It is very demotivating my dear.

And i disagree noct is the most profitable to make gold, It is better to spam low and mid tier dungeon, ace dungeon or iod and sell boxes,scales,ominous ore and herpvein powder. 50% health pot for profit atm. EMP ratio at my server is 1:35 btw.

canikizu · June 2017

LesbianVi wrote: »

@toufu as I said, I am referring to current situation and upcoming Sun Festival, as you saw I am not blind and I understand that crafting them is dead, but remember even when they were there, people needs to farm, you might not asking for hands out here, but look around the forums since the gear patch and you get why I am just really in a mood to stand these kinda posts. As I said, seriously look at the prices of mats and see what a messed economy we have now, gold sink doesn't exists, people are siting at large of piles of gold, asking for EMP, EMP ratio is gone to 1:40-45. In the other hand, casual can't make gold, because everything is just too cheap to sale or people don't even need to buy, so Noct is only profitable way to make gold for them now. And now we take that away from them, newbies, casual goes away and things get even nastier and servers emptier.

Am I really being wrong here?

Yes you are the one being wrong. I'm shocked you consider it!!
Event will never ever be a good and stable way to supply the player base, especially tradable consumables one. All it does is to enourage gouging and stockpiling and brokering them later (unless you are into those, since you don't run dungeons at all).

I farm all 8 vg quests on 4 main toons per days, do all 8 vg on other 6 alts toons, and only run and use noctenium in VSHM on 2 toons, and I still don't get enough noctenium to cover the cost. I think you SEVERELY underestimate how much goldsink VSHM is for people like us. If you are playing this game more than us, show proof and we will listen to your opinions, otherwise you are just arguing for the sake of argument. Sometimes it's better to shut up and pretend to be stupid, then open your mouth and confirm that you are one.

StevenAnthony · June 2017

StevenAnthony
this no work, people still complaint and cry because they dont like farm......
wait, completing vanguards on 8 different toons daily isnt farming and are deemed by bunch like you that we want "handouts" ?Please further elaborate the we-dont-like-farm part. Do you even read?

but

toufu wrote: »

Is nobody having noctenium supply issue at the moment?

I've talked to a bunch of friends of mine who actively does end game content, all of us have come to an agreement that noctenium infusions are depleting very quickly. At the moment VSHM yields almost no profit and fights can get pretty long ,which uses up a lot of nocteniums.

Harrowhold is soon to come, and it will require lots of noctenium infusions.

I think we need an event similar to tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/mongos-raid-potion-shack-catalysts-missing EXCLUDING the catalysts but instead, drops noctenium,strong canephora,strong bravery,etc (i've known ppl who missed the chance to farm their strong bravery/canephora too)
to my memory this event was hardly abused, and it requires actual effort searching for mongo to earn your rewards.

im agree with nocterium suply are more crappy ( no like alliance craft, when you can spend 3 hours kill mobs for get tisues).
but you still get from vanguards, dungeons etc. and and like im said in other post about same tread, average broker prices are around 1.5 2 g each, and somes bams events ( and summers event ) suplly somes nocteriums boxes

but if you and you friend do end game dungeons, alredy know if you runs the hardes conted, when you have enough supliess, and farm the most harder conted only for get enough consumables/nocteriums ........... pliss,

toufu · June 2017

@Stevenanthony
im agree with nocterium suply are more crappy

So you acknowledged noctenium supply is an issue ,thank you but i do not understand your 2nd paragraph.

@Stevenanthony
but if you and you friend do end game dungeons, alredy know if you runs the hardes conted, when you have enough supliess, and farm the most harder conted only for get enough consumables/nocteriums ........... pliss,

I am really sorry, do you mind rephrasing again?

StevenAnthony · June 2017

toufu wrote: »

@Stevenanthony
im agree with nocterium suply are more crappy

So you acknowledged noctenium supply is an issue ,thank you but i do not understand your 2nd paragraph.

@Stevenanthony
but if you and you friend do end game dungeons, alredy know if you runs the hardes conted, when you have enough supliess, and farm the most harder conted only for get enough consumables/nocteriums ........... pliss,

I am really sorry, do you mind rephrasing again?

maybe you have, because you farm vshm for get nocteriums ............

toufu · June 2017

@Stevenanthony no i dont farm VSHM to get noctenium, you CANT farm VSHM for nocteniums, thats just crazy, even if you do it is super inefficient.

I do VSHM daily about 4-8 runs daily
then spend my remaining time doing vanguards for my alts to sell mats so that i can buy nocteniums from broker to cover the goldsink. This way is much faster.

Shishao · June 2017

@LesbianVi would you please or anyone enlighten me how the Sun Festival is a good source of noctenium.
As far as I know you can farm Sarberry Ice for the mp pot and sun tokens and some fun items.
Did they change the game rewards and instead of charms you get noctenium or .... ?

TWMagimay · June 2017

Shishao wrote: »

@LesbianVi would you please or anyone enlighten me how the Sun Festival is a good source of noctenium.
As far as I know you can farm Sarberry Ice for the mp pot and sun tokens and some fun items.
Did they change the game rewards and instead of charms you get noctenium or .... ?

Sun tokens can(or could) be exchanged for noctenium boxes, semi's, dyads, random stuff nobody cares about. Though, to be fair, last year the shop was briefly full of stupid(low-mid tier gear) before people cried on the forum for hand-outs and it was reverted to the worth-it stuff. Nobody really knows what will happen this year.

Kreuziger · June 2017

People need more nocteniums. We have plenty ways to make it possible.
*An empty open world with bams
*the crafting still works. Thanks god.
*we are able to gather for mats of any type.

Gathering, crafting, open world content. It makes me remember old days when the open world used to have ppl around.
Again..Eme or bh can make it possible? We already have most of the things needed.

Shishao · June 2017

TWMagimay wrote: »

Shishao wrote: »

@LesbianVi would you please or anyone enlighten me how the Sun Festival is a good source of noctenium.
As far as I know you can farm Sarberry Ice for the mp pot and sun tokens and some fun items.
Did they change the game rewards and instead of charms you get noctenium or .... ?

Sun tokens can(or could) be exchanged for noctenium boxes, semi's, dyads, random stuff nobody cares about. Though, to be fair, last year the shop was briefly full of stupid(low-mid tier gear) before people cried on the forum for hand-outs and it was reverted to the worth-it stuff. Nobody really knows what will happen this year.

So everyone attacking this thread is quoting something that they changed last year for the worse (just to change it again because forum outcry, the irony) and noone is sure what will be in the shop this year, will it even contain a noctenium box.
10/10

StevenAnthony · June 2017

would assume HH is gonna come in a month or so, if i keep this VSHM farming up i would have NO nocteniums left, i have enough money to wipe the current broker but it will greatly raise the cost of noctenium infusion and it will STILL be a problem and making things worse.

atm i dont even feel like doing VSHM at all because the noctenium is getting scarce and expensive.

dont do x 8 vshm = fixed lack in nocterium , you said this ..................

toufu · June 2017

@StevenAnthony but i need materials to make VM9 so i can tank some hits from HH bosses and not be a burden my other 19 teammtes. There is no way to perfectly iframe every attack until maybe you 've done the dungeon 30-100times. Even then iframing everything with mid tier or low budget gear is not a good way to do HH

Also a stronger dps weapon ,because HH20man will be MUCH MORE PUNISHING, literally 1 death = raid wipe

Akthanakos · June 2017

StevenAnthony wrote: »

would assume HH is gonna come in a month or so, if i keep this VSHM farming up i would have NO nocteniums left, i have enough money to wipe the current broker but it will greatly raise the cost of noctenium infusion and it will STILL be a problem and making things worse.

atm i dont even feel like doing VSHM at all because the noctenium is getting scarce and expensive.

dont do x 8 vshm = fixed lack in nocterium , you said this ..................

like seriously, just crawl back the cave you came from. You're just a pathetic troll that adds nothing to this thread or community for that matter. All you do is trollfest every thread you post on, you're such a cancer on this forum. Just grow up dude, your attitude is simply disgusting.

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