[TERA PC & Console] En Masse is closing, but TERA lives on! We will continue to support TERA PC (NA) and TERA Console until service is transferred. Stay tuned for more information.
[TERA Console] The Grotto of Lost Souls update (v85) is now live! Read the patch notes here: https://bit.ly/TERACon_v85

[TERA PC] The 64-bit update (v97) is now live. Check out all the changes delivered on August 11 here: https://bit.ly/tera64_patchnotes
[TERA PC & CONSOLE] Summerfest Part 2: The Beach Bash is on from August 11 until September 1! Participate in event activities to earn tokens redeemable for costumes, consumables, mounts, and more! Details: https://bit.ly/tera_sf20

Noctenium Infusion Supply

16781012

Comments

  • toufutoufu ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Making a statement about running 4-8 VSHM is considered etilist? please elaborate.
    Some of the players here DOES NOT even run mid tier or VSHM/VHHM/Harrowhold is trying to give a ton of comments about how noctenium is not needed when they DONT even play the game, I simply asked if they even run the dungeon itself, Look at how many of them have actually answered? It isnt even a difficult question to answer, They dont understand where we are coming from.

    Why else do you think people who do end game is feeling frustrated when looking at people who DONT play the game making baseless comments?

    Are you allergic to proper discussion or what?
    At the end of the day Noctenium is a necessity in end game dungeon
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    66ECX7NAN7 wrote: »
    I had a constructive suggestion: if noctenium is too expensive, don't use it. That's just supply and demand. I really don't care whether BHS or EME decide to increase the supply or not. Aside from saying some people are elitists, which is accurate if you're saying people who don't run VSHM multiple times a day shouldn't express their opinion, I haven't insulted or flamed anyone.

    Thank you, this is all about that. they still demand over mats, consumables, anything, and they claim they are so good at this game and everyone else so bad and don't understand the game.

    Guess what you made your case, we made our case. If our case made you so angry that made you go on a attack mode for pages, then it proves you players don't care for discussion, you repeat yourself over and over, with name calling and stuff like that. At this point, I am pretty much sure, you players are demanding for hand outs. couple of you players are not representing the community, they are running the dungeons, they are not crying over anything, they can manage things without posting stuff against other players.

    if it makes me bad for asking for extra reward point (which we got), then just check the forums and thread you make and check your posts and see since the gear release you players keep demanding almost everything and asking for stuff, and even if you got many, still you few players are still crying over something new.

    If at this point, we had a shortage we could agree on that, but you have piles of feedstock, piles of MES, piles of SES, piles of SB, piles of BES, piles of VM mats, all came from events without doing the hard stuff or any hard farmings. And now only thing you got to pay to get is Noct infusion and for this alone you players are ranting so bad that not only shows you are not as good as you claim at this game but also shows you surely want hand outs at this point.

    Keep ranting, keep pointing at me. You are not representing the game.
  • so what do you represent then @LesbianVi ? the bunch of other nonfactors wasting our time ?
  • saltedcaramelsaltedcaramel ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    I appeal to those who can't run vshm -- this problem is amplified by vshm. If vshm didn't exist noctenium supply/demand might not even have been an issue. If you can't run vshm just don't talk because honestly you are just wasting time. Go indulge yourselves in some erotic role play with your equally non-factor friends in Lumbertown and let those who are actually impacted by this talk.

    Don't get me wrong though, if you consistently farm VSHM and you disagree with most of the rhetoric that's fine we can agree to disagree. I just don't like shitters talking out of place
  • toufutoufu ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    @saltedcaramel
    Don't get me wrong though, if you consistently farm VSHM and you disagree with most of the rhetoric that's fine we can agree to disagree. I just don't like shitters talking out of place

    Exactly this, and as mentioned many times, we have a harrowhold;Noctenium Sink dungeon coming soon, in b4 noctenium too expensive , dont use them in harrowhold commented by some players.
  • canikizucanikizu ✭✭✭
    so what do you represent then @LesbianVi ? the bunch of other nonfactors wasting our time ?

    He "suggested" us to wait for Sun Festival, where you can farm like 6 tokens per day on one toon for 10 min, and the Noct Box is 10 tokens. Essentially you have to waste 1 hour on 10 alt toons to get enough noct boxes to supply for ONE VSHM run. But hey, according to him, Sun Festival will solve all the problem.

    People like him are eager to wait for Sun Festival because it's like extra income for him, he don't care about the state of demand/supply at all. While people are trying to discuss about ways to stabilize the supply (by iod/ace token which require farm, vg credit which requires farm, npc shops which is a good goldsink for the game, etc), all he wants is events and events, and yet he talks about "hand-outs". How is farming a handout when Sun Festival isn't. Such hypocrite.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    canikizu wrote: »
    so what do you represent then @LesbianVi ? the bunch of other nonfactors wasting our time ?

    He "suggested" us to wait for Sun Festival, where you can farm like 6 tokens per day on one toon for 10 min, and the Noct Box is 10 tokens. Essentially you have to waste 1 hour on 10 alt toons to get enough noct boxes to supply for ONE VSHM run. But hey, according to him, Sun Festival will solve all the problem.

    People like him are eager to wait for Sun Festival because it's like extra income for him, he don't care about the state of demand/supply at all. While people are trying to discuss about ways to stabilize the supply (by iod/ace token which require farm, vg credit which requires farm, npc shops which is a good goldsink for the game, etc), all he wants is events and events, and yet he talks about "hand-outs". How is farming a handout when Sun Festival isn't. Such hypocrite.

    yeah, thanks for pointing the obvious, you don't wanna pay for them, You don't wanna pay for anything, forums is your gold to spend.

    You summed it up all for me.
  • AkthanakosAkthanakos ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    @LesbianVi why dont you just admit that you're jealous of people that can run dungeons while you can only farm iod 24/7. All you want is for things that benefit YOU while keeping the good players down, all so you can get extra gold? Do you really think you can convince anyone that actually plays this game? I bet if EME decided to further boost IOD you would be applauding them because YOU would benefit from it. So just stop this facade, no one here cares about your opinion when all you do is afk/broker/iod 24/7.
  • TWMagimayTWMagimay ✭✭✭✭✭
    canikizu wrote: »
    He "suggested" us to wait for Sun Festival, where you can farm like 6 tokens per day on one toon for 10 min, and the Noct Box is 10 tokens. Essentially you have to waste 1 hour on 10 alt toons to get enough noct boxes to supply for ONE VSHM run. But hey, according to him, Sun Festival will solve all the problem.

    That's factually incorrect. And considering the tone of this topic I feel compelled to tell you that if you don't farm Sun Festival, you shouldn't be talking about it. Also, Su festival has been known for crashing the prices of whatever item people flock to so while you, personally, might not be able to farm all the nocts you need, you'll be able to buy them at affordable prices.
    People like him are eager to wait for Sun Festival because it's like extra income for him, he don't care about the state of demand/supply at all. While people are trying to discuss about ways to stabilize the supply (by iod/ace token which require farm, vg credit which requires farm, npc shops which is a good goldsink for the game, etc), all he wants is events and events, and yet he talks about "hand-outs". How is farming a handout when Sun Festival isn't. Such hypocrite.

    Except "people" are not trying to stabilise the supply, it's already stable. This topic is literally about making endgame players completely self-sufficient and cutting off "casual" players in yet another way.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    You are all saying pages over pages you can't make gold to buy Noct, I am the shitter? As I said, with this economy and with stuff you all got after gear patch by events so far, if you are asking for more stuff, also I remember in 1 hour bam event, 40 to 60 boxes were distributed to the participants, so even Noct were distributed, still asking and demanding stuff doesn't make you players good.
  • DWDE6GFGWHDWDE6GFGWH ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    canikizu wrote: »
    so what do you represent then @LesbianVi ? the bunch of other nonfactors wasting our time ?

    He "suggested" us to wait for Sun Festival, where you can farm like 6 tokens per day on one toon for 10 min, and the Noct Box is 10 tokens. Essentially you have to waste 1 hour on 10 alt toons to get enough noct boxes to supply for ONE VSHM run. But hey, according to him, Sun Festival will solve all the problem.

    People like him are eager to wait for Sun Festival because it's like extra income for him, he don't care about the state of demand/supply at all. While people are trying to discuss about ways to stabilize the supply (by iod/ace token which require farm, vg credit which requires farm, npc shops which is a good goldsink for the game, etc), all he wants is events and events, and yet he talks about "hand-outs". How is farming a handout when Sun Festival isn't. Such hypocrite.

    yeah, thanks for pointing the obvious, you don't wanna pay for them, You don't wanna pay for anything, forums is your gold to spend.

    You summed it up all for me.

    Please just stop Vi, this is why everyone dislikes you together with all the other people that don't run top tier dungeons and talk in topics like these. Whenever people come up with a legitimate concern, you just come in and start being a hypocrite. If it doesn't value you in any way you always go against the community that runs harder stuff even tho you don't run dungeons at all. If you can show atleast a skilled title on your VSH you wouldn't have all these people against you. You're only on tera to sit afk and do easy dungeons/abuse blue box events, of course you won't notice that noctenium is a problem right now.
  • toufutoufu ✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    @TWMagimay Then why would we wanna do end game if it is not self-sustainable but only a steady lost of income? We know it is gonna be a lost at the start of the patch, but doing end game is more of an investment. noctenium is there to make our life tadbit easier.certain times we have low dps or another dps out of the game/dead and we need to use noct to make up for that DPS check or break shield to prevent tank from dying in VSHM . I know it is NOT a must to use noctenium in VSHM but it will still be a necessity eventually. It isnt easy to have a perfect party where everybody can clear the dungeon without noct or have people that can spend 2hours per dungeon.

    I dont quite get the cutting off casual player part, i am pretty sure some sort of way can be implemented/suggested to allow casual players to farm noct as well to sell for end game players, when Harrowhold come, the usage of noctenium is gonna be way more and its 1000% a must.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2017
    Akthanakos wrote: »
    @LesbianVi why dont you just admit that you're jealous of people that can run dungeons while you can only farm iod 24/7. All you want is for things that benefit YOU while keeping the good players down, all so you can get extra gold? Do you really think you can convince anyone that actually plays this game? I bet if EME decided to further boost IOD you would be applauding them because YOU would benefit from it. So just stop this facade, no one here cares about your opinion when all you do is afk/broker/iod 24/7.

    I never did broker in my Tera life, I wouldn't be Tier 5 if I was doing IOD 24/7 with 17 chars I have on CH, plus I am working 8-10 hours a day, 6 days of a week, grow up and don't insult players which you have no idea how and what they are doing.

    this facade of asking for stuff and ruining economy more than this needs to stop, so no, I won't shut up. go see EU and see how players are doing there. You guys are massively spoiled and wants to be spoiled more.

    I blame EME here, gave way way too much mats, consumable, things that effect game plays and are not just luxuries and handing those stuff spoiled part of the community so much and not a day goes by without you same people demanding for more stuff.
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    DWDE6GFGWH wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    canikizu wrote: »
    so what do you represent then @LesbianVi ? the bunch of other nonfactors wasting our time ?

    He "suggested" us to wait for Sun Festival, where you can farm like 6 tokens per day on one toon for 10 min, and the Noct Box is 10 tokens. Essentially you have to waste 1 hour on 10 alt toons to get enough noct boxes to supply for ONE VSHM run. But hey, according to him, Sun Festival will solve all the problem.

    People like him are eager to wait for Sun Festival because it's like extra income for him, he don't care about the state of demand/supply at all. While people are trying to discuss about ways to stabilize the supply (by iod/ace token which require farm, vg credit which requires farm, npc shops which is a good goldsink for the game, etc), all he wants is events and events, and yet he talks about "hand-outs". How is farming a handout when Sun Festival isn't. Such hypocrite.

    yeah, thanks for pointing the obvious, you don't wanna pay for them, You don't wanna pay for anything, forums is your gold to spend.

    You summed it up all for me.

    Please just stop Vi, this is why everyone dislikes you together with all the other people that don't run top tier dungeons and talk in topics like these. Whenever people come up with a legitimate concern, you just come in and start being a hypocrite. If it doesn't value you in any way you always go against the community that runs harder stuff even tho you don't run dungeons at all. If you can show atleast a skilled title on your VSH you wouldn't have all these people against you. You're only on tera to sit afk and do easy dungeons/abuse blue box events, of course you won't notice that noctenium is a problem right now.

    do you know how I play the game? I can't participate in most events, unless I am off of the work. Weekends for you which most events happens are work days for me, plus all PM events are AM events when I am sleeping, so your assumptions and conclusions are false.
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    You are all saying pages over pages you can't make gold to buy Noct, I am the shitter? As I said, with this economy and with stuff you all got after gear patch by events so far, if you are asking for more stuff, also I remember in 1 hour bam event, 40 to 60 boxes were distributed to the participants, so even Noct were distributed, still asking and demanding stuff doesn't make you players good.

    Problem isn't the gold cost. I just want to not spend over 1k Noct per lancer run with 5~ minute bosses. There is no real in game source of Noct. I'm more than willing to farm for it, as long as it comes from harder content (like DS2/3) and not just spamming 64 vanguards a day.

    The hardest content in the game SHOULD at least not cost people more to run it than it gives. VM mats are worthless once you get your pieces.
This discussion has been closed.