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Queue Times Are Outrages!

This is too big of an issue to just sweep under the carpet. It's not even that the game is dead cause obviously it isn't. The queue system must be refined.

My queue times are the same thing every single day since ive started for the past 3 weeks. 30, 40, 50, rarely, 20 min queues.

This is unreal. Please invest some resources into this.

I'm literally going to post every single queue to prove that it isn't a exaggeration or troll post.42%20mins%20queue_zpszpdj3tlo.png

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  • ArdireArdire ✭✭✭✭✭
    p.s. roll a healer
  • SaphirKanzakiSaphirKanzaki ✭✭✭✭
    1. You are queueing with a ninja. This is the most played class right now. The system is not packing a group of 5 ninjas.
    2. The system can not create artifical players. It's way easier for you to get active and search players within LFG, your guild or whatever. Because
    3. you alone can decide whether your group will be viable or not. The system does not have the ability to.
    4. Or - you can post your queue times and hope for a solution falling down from the sky. But by then, other players in the same situation as you will have taken the other sollutions.
  • Yeah. Each party by ims standards is required to have one tank and one healer. If there is a lack of those, due to everyone playing ninja, there isn't anyone to match with, and thus the queue gets long. If you roll a tank or a healer the queues will be neigh instant. As Saphir said, no fix on the ims system can create artificial players.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is this something you're doing now? It's 3~6 AM for NA, you're also a dps, and I'm sure the amount of people who even que for that dungeon is even lower. I just finished queing several runs for other dungeons that people actually use ims and each took me a max of 5 minutes as a dps.
  • JuudeJuude ✭✭✭
    Ninja, morning in the NA, means most players are asleep, it is a low tier dungeon...etc

    I suggest doing something else for a while until it becomes day in the NA, people have time to log on, and then create an LFG, they generally go much faster than IMS.
  • It's not just the morning...

    It's like this every day through out the entire day.

    You will see tomorrow again when i post.

    Time zone is only partially the issue based on the experience ive had. If ANY post has a good point its that everyone is DPS and there are hardly any healers/tanks atm. But even that i find suspicious because ive been told by a few buddies that whenever they queue for a dungeon and say the tank leaves or whatever. They'll follow with asking a guildy tank to queue and it turns out the queue's are still as delayed as ever and in fact that the guildy who queued is thrown into a completely different party minutes later. It isn't instant. The queue system is obviously flawed.

    I'm not one to complain about [filtered] like this but [filtered].. it's the same thing every day, any time of the day since i started( 3 weeks).
  • JuudeJuude ✭✭✭
    It's not just the morning...

    It's like this every day through out the entire day.

    You will see tomorrow again when i post.

    Time zone is only partially the issue based on the experience ive had. If ANY post has a good point its that everyone is DPS and there are hardly any healers/tanks atm. But even that i find suspicious because ive been told by a few buddies that whenever they queue for a dungeon and say the tank leaves or whatever. They'll follow with asking a guildy tank to queue and it turns out the queue's are still as delayed as ever and in fact that the guildy who queued is thrown into a completely different party minutes later. It isn't instant. The queue system is obviously flawed.

    I'm not one to complain about [filtered] like this but [filtered].. it's the same thing every day, any time of the day since i started( 3 weeks).

    Hm...sad to hear that. But not much you or any of us can do about it. Stop using IMS and stick with LFG, at least that one works.
  • The problem is very few people use instance matching for anything else besides the very easiest dungeons - and not for raids even if the dungeon was easy. IM raids have tendency to have lots of afking, disconnecting, everything requiring some explaining, including boss mechanics, what items to roll or why etc. In wonderholme for example, the teralith boss potion got rolled on by someone who didn't know how to use it, or was not a good option for it, quite often back when WH was initially released. It was very annoying.

    Use LFG for level 65 dungeons mostly.
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're queing for a dungeon people don't really que for. IMS is mostly use for KC/CW/ABNM/KDHM/FI/DFNM. No amount of ims fixes is going to make your WH que pop more often.
  • Who actually queues for a dungeon that requires some coordination? IMS and twin bosses just don't work! And also... who queues for a face roll dungeon like WH
  • YitharYithar ✭✭✭
    Time zone is only partially the issue based on the experience ive had. If ANY post has a good point its that everyone is DPS and there are hardly any healers/tanks atm. But even that i find suspicious because ive been told by a few buddies that whenever they queue for a dungeon and say the tank leaves or whatever. They'll follow with asking a guildy tank to queue and it turns out the queue's are still as delayed as ever and in fact that the guildy who queued is thrown into a completely different party minutes later. It isn't instant. The queue system is obviously flawed.

    I'm not one to complain about [filtered] like this but [filtered].. it's the same thing every day, any time of the day since i started( 3 weeks).

    Most likely the queue tries to match the new tank with a new healer before trying to put the new tank with the old party/raid.

    Also, you are a DPS. I'm sure you know that this has always been a problem. That there are more DPS than tanks and healers.
  • Yithar wrote: »
    Time zone is only partially the issue based on the experience ive had. If ANY post has a good point its that everyone is DPS and there are hardly any healers/tanks atm. But even that i find suspicious because ive been told by a few buddies that whenever they queue for a dungeon and say the tank leaves or whatever. They'll follow with asking a guildy tank to queue and it turns out the queue's are still as delayed as ever and in fact that the guildy who queued is thrown into a completely different party minutes later. It isn't instant. The queue system is obviously flawed.

    I'm not one to complain about [filtered] like this but [filtered].. it's the same thing every day, any time of the day since i started( 3 weeks).

    Most likely the queue tries to match the new tank with a new healer before trying to put the new tank with the old party/raid.

    Also, you are a DPS. I'm sure you know that this has always been a problem. That there are more DPS than tanks and healers.

    After an hour and half of waiting i finally got in. Last boss - someone left(DPS). Took 15 mins to get a new DPS.

    Lack of classes ia a misconception that people keep throwing around. There are a lot of games with terrible queue systems, they exist. League of Legends was victim of this for a while and they have some of the most intense/dedicated staff in the gaming industry.

    You guys say " who queue's for WH. People who need SF mats, the most popular and most on-demand armor atm. That dungeon is the only place hearts drop. While you're at it, can also get dread spars. Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Oh wait t9 feedstock drops there too? 3 birds with 1 stone. It's a core dungeon for anyone trying to build into SF. Just cause you guys already have +15 SF don't mean everyone else does.
  • Personally i have been using IMS on my mystic to try to get gear so that would be both FINM (this i have done tank + DPS also) and DFNM as well as SSNM and DFHM with healer + DPS as well, as my results are much the same. Its really common for any dungeon to take a good 20-50 minutes no matter what i choose to queue with, and this is middle of the day for me which is like an hour or so away from server time. So that being said both the population of Tera is decreasing we all know it has been and we all know it still is, with how bad their choices have been and their "fixes" they don't add for weeks/months later and are barely fixes in the first place.

    The other thing that is slowing down times is the just pure lack of balance in the game you can be either priest, mystic, brawler OR ninja anything else might as well not be in the game right now and if you are that secluded and told from level 1 that any other class is just worthless and like a third the DPS of a brawler or like 5% the DPS of a ninja people are not gonna keep those classes at all.

    So until EME gets off their [filtered] and starts telling BHS the state of the game and the lack of balance there is and BHS gets off their cash cow and actually starts balancing the game the times won't get better no matter how much they overhaul the system and personally i would rather have them focus on balancing classes so its not just 4 classes that are even considered viable by the "elitist" people and its easier to convince people that other classes SHOULD be played and don't just re-roll a dam ninja or brawler cause its the only way to be successful in this game.

    This is exactly my point. It hasn't just been happening with WH. I queue for all the dungeons that are currently dropping t9 feedstock. The time frame is generally about the same.

    They can change if enough people demand it but when we have community saying " its because of lack of clsses " , or " its because of the time of day ". Those to me seem like very poor excuses. People complain about it online but never care to mention past global chat. Everyone wants change but aren't willing to speak their minds because they get offended that you're insulting their favorite game.

    Just copy paste this sentence "TERA is dying" in global chat and paste the replies in this very same thread. People go ape [filtered] like you just spoke about their mothers.
  • SvafnirSvafnir ✭✭✭
    edited May 2016
    The issue anyway is that people usually don't queue for RAIDS because the potential to be a wipefest is far larger than a "regular" dungeon, not to mention while older players (some do some others quite the opposite) know and like WH they'd not want to queue for it because > Giant-Lizard > Teralith > One-Eyed Jack is just WAY too risky if you don't know the people in the raid, even back in the day queueing for WHHM was trap 80% of the time by wiping either at Teralith (I really don't see what's so hard about aiming and firing a tank PROPERLY) or Jack (apparently people had no clue that [filtered] during jack gave a hefty increase to crit rate and attack, thus, making the fight much much faster... I remember that one 4m crit I got once in a WHHM with Wonderholme set at +12, getting such a number back then was impossible no matter what you used... unless CW but it doesn't count since that thing's endurance is 0...) and as usual, when there's a wipe there's plenty of people dropping because 2hardcantdo and in a raid it usually means you're done for if it happens to be the tank or a good healer... most people AVOID "in progress" unless they know for sure they can carry HARD.

    Edit: I have no honest idea why the censoring of certain words like bal.ls is in place (ok I do, but still, it's annoying when it's filtered and there's really nothing offensive about the sentence itself... sometimes you have to wonder exactly what it says and your imagination can run wild) but you can probably say gonads and still be referring to the same part of male anatomy yet that one is not censored.
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