VSHM Event.

LYC14 · July 2017

> @TheCatalyst said:
> I have a question..
> If I go into VSNM with LFG group at first, but midway, someone had to go because of bowel movement, then we que inside the dungeon, does that count as IMS?
>

I don't think you can IM queue in the middle of a dungeon you LFG for...

saltedcaramel · July 2017

TheCatalyst wrote: »

I have a question..
If I go into VSNM with LFG group at first, but midway, someone had to go because of bowel movement, then we que inside the dungeon, does that count as IMS?

it'll count as another run

Anyway it's a good idea to add vsnm to the event. Can explain mechs and tell people what to take note of and once they know the newbies will figure out how to carry their weight really fast. Then they can slowly progress into hm after they figure NM out. This is nice

TWMagimay · July 2017

czczcz wrote: »

Denommenator wrote: »

To provide a peek behind the scenes on this event, we're using an out-of-box system to run the event and it applies only to IMS, so we unfortunately don't have any flexibility in that regard.

Does this event bonus still apply if you form an incomplete party with a single unskilled player, and use IMS to finish building your party? e.g. Skilled brawler, skilled DPS #1, unskilled DPS #2 -> IM DPS #3 and healer?

Also LOL I can't stop laughing at this event and the reasons it exists in the first place. NA TERA elitism has gotten so bad that new players literally can't find people who are willing and good enough to teach them how to play the game. The whole +15 awakening thing has seriously undermined progression and the ability to participate for a large portion of the player base. VSHM minimum entry requirements are +15 VM8 (or even VM9!) unless you want to just stare at your LFG window for a few hours for the 'kind souls' willing to help/carry you through it - and by those kind souls I mean people in statics who can't find a 5th player and just need you for the body count. If you're looking for people to carry new folks through VS in either difficulty mode it might be better to allow for double healer, but I doubt EME has any control over such system details. Anyway, statics will just sync queue and keep kicking until they get who they want. 423 still remains a laughable minimum ilevel requirement for entry into NM.

Let me tell you a little story: When Tera opened its doors in the West, it had this feature...if you have a rookie in your party, you'd get better loot(higher chance to drop rare items, that kind of stuff). There was no +15 at the time and not everyone even had +12(I didn't even go for the set you could masterwork, just a +9 basic thing). Guess what. People still used alts for the buff and nobody cared much to teach new players. Funny enough, that was also the time when lancers would flex their shields in the face of parties and demand zerks be kicked so they wouldn't share plate drops.

The main issue is, and always has been, you can't force people to help strangers. The only thing you can do is create a mentoring program that requires veterans to interact with their charges. I actually kept playing Forsaken World for a week after I knew I don't like it simply because my mentor was really nice and I didn't want her to be shafted if I quit before completing the course. That's how you get newbies into endgame, you get veterans to talk to them and grow fond of them.

LesbianVi · July 2017

Nice event by EME, nice reaction and feedback by community. I like things this way, proud of being on NA Tera right now

Lethalweapon · July 2017

Best event, should be permanent if you apply IM on 4 and 5 stars dungeons with some adjusts on the rewards of course, but i think this is the right way. Congratulations to EME crew that had this idea

NikuroTega · July 2017

Halrath wrote: »

We've listened to player feedback (And Cobaltdragon advocated for the players quite eloquently!). The event has been updated and you can see the changes here.

The tl;dr version is this:

VSNM will get the rewards previously mentioned.
VSHM will get increased rewards to the tune of:

Strong Bravery Potion ×5
Dragon Scale ×5
Noctenium ×1000
Enchanting Bonanza Box ×3

The instance matching is a required function of the tool. It won't work without that. Sorry. That said, even during the event, nothing will prevent players from entering VSHM in their preferred parties or groups. It simply will reward those who try instance-matching.

I believe x2000-2500 noctenium infusions would be better.

Not too sure about x5 dragon scales as a reward since most skilled players in VSHM may already have both 1.5x and 2.0x crit dragons. it's good for skilled player's alts, and for the unskilled player, I suppose. Then again, one would get way more dragon scales much easily and quicker through queueing BGs. So there's that.

I would suggest smart dyads instead of dragon scales, but ABNM event probably gave most players a nice stash of smart dyads.

Will we ever get any of the common and hero/legendary noctenium refiners that EU got?

Or perhaps master additives for etchings?

TheNobleNoble · July 2017

NikuroTega wrote: »

Halrath wrote: »

We've listened to player feedback (And Cobaltdragon advocated for the players quite eloquently!). The event has been updated and you can see the changes here.

The tl;dr version is this:

VSNM will get the rewards previously mentioned.
VSHM will get increased rewards to the tune of:

Strong Bravery Potion ×5
Dragon Scale ×5
Noctenium ×1000
Enchanting Bonanza Box ×3

The instance matching is a required function of the tool. It won't work without that. Sorry. That said, even during the event, nothing will prevent players from entering VSHM in their preferred parties or groups. It simply will reward those who try instance-matching.

I believe x2000-2500 noctenium infusions would be better.

Not too sure about x5 dragon scales as a reward since most skilled players in VSHM may already have both 1.5x and 2.0x crit dragons. it's good for skilled player's alts, and for the unskilled player, I suppose. Then again, one would get way more dragon scales much easily and quicker through queueing BGs. So there's that.

I would suggest smart dyads instead of dragon scales, but ABNM event probably gave most players a nice stash of smart dyads.

Will we ever get any of the common and hero/legendary noctenium refiners that EU got?

Or perhaps master additives for etchings?

1. That much noct would eventually break the economy (or supposedly) and is way too much to begin with.
2. Well dragon scales are the only reliable way to get strong bravery pots, but no one mentions that right??? and a majority of people don't have crit dragons now. Alot but not a majority
3. I actually would like that

4. nope, eu/ktera exclusive
5. nope

NikuroTega · July 2017

TheNobleNoble wrote: »

NikuroTega wrote: »

Halrath wrote: »

We've listened to player feedback (And Cobaltdragon advocated for the players quite eloquently!). The event has been updated and you can see the changes here.

The tl;dr version is this:

VSNM will get the rewards previously mentioned.
VSHM will get increased rewards to the tune of:

Strong Bravery Potion ×5
Dragon Scale ×5
Noctenium ×1000
Enchanting Bonanza Box ×3

The instance matching is a required function of the tool. It won't work without that. Sorry. That said, even during the event, nothing will prevent players from entering VSHM in their preferred parties or groups. It simply will reward those who try instance-matching.

I believe x2000-2500 noctenium infusions would be better.

Not too sure about x5 dragon scales as a reward since most skilled players in VSHM may already have both 1.5x and 2.0x crit dragons. it's good for skilled player's alts, and for the unskilled player, I suppose. Then again, one would get way more dragon scales much easily and quicker through queueing BGs. So there's that.

I would suggest smart dyads instead of dragon scales, but ABNM event probably gave most players a nice stash of smart dyads.

Will we ever get any of the common and hero/legendary noctenium refiners that EU got?

Or perhaps master additives for etchings?

1. That much noct would eventually break the economy (or supposedly) and is way too much to begin with.
2. Well dragon scales are the only reliable way to get strong bravery pots, but no one mentions that right??? and a majority of people don't have crit dragons now. Alot but not a majority
3. I actually would like that
4. nope, eu/ktera exclusive
5. nope

1. I figured that the x2000 nocts rewards would cover the ones spent in VSHM with a bit to spare, but you're right, it would break the noct economy.

2. Yeah, I took full advantage of the IoD event on alts to replenish my Strong Bravery stash. Maybe x6 dragon scales would be better for x2 strong bravery pots, or a bit more of an edge for those who need a 1.5 crit dragon. It should be reasonable, right?

3. Yus, I'd love me some smart dyads! I ran out, and didn't take advantage of the ABNM event. One can only hope!

4. Dang!

5. I figured

LYC14 · July 2017

So is anyone gonna do this event?

Grimoir · July 2017

For whats it worth: ypu can carry me through vshm<3 too hard to get a party together on my time and learn it lol
(I cleared normal mode multiple times) xD

StevenAnthony · July 2017

Grimoir wrote: »

For whats it worth: ypu can carry me through vshm<3 too hard to get a party together on my time and learn it lol
(I cleared normal mode multiple times) xD

mee too plisss

NexTheEmperor · July 2017

Is it me or is it obvious to anyone else how poorly this event is going and how much worse it's going to get? It's taken already poor ims times and made the wait longer for runs that don't happen due to people trying to find thier friends. I suggest that they allow people to party together and ims otherwise there is no incentive to continue this event. If this event is going to continue failing at drawing player interest I suggest they end it early. As it stands i've not been able to get any runs going of any of the dungeons. Maybe someone somewhere is benefitting but as for those i've seen and myself, no such luck.

VSHM Event.

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