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Most op character for pvp

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  • MistrussMistruss ✭✭
    edited August 2017
    Pumpedd wrote: »
    Switch warrior for lancer and put Gunner in Top tier. Thats my list.

    Gunners counter every melee class and become a ''skill'' matchup in ranged in which all duels should be to begin with.

    Also warriors beat valks because they have more of the same iframe and a better backstab.

    Valid points, but Lancer has almost no bad match ups thanks to block and leash putting a stop to any form of neutral/passive play. Great self sustain, defensive options, offensive damage, and catching tools makes Lancer Top Tier.

    I agree that Gunner has a great match up against most melee classes and recall is perhaps the most broken skill in the game. Placement of them could use adjustment.

    Short summary of Warrior and Valk placement:
    Warriors are great at 1v1s, but they too have their bad match ups. Valks on the other hand have no match up that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
  • GlitchyTrashGlitchyTrash ✭✭✭
    Warrior has bad match ups? Any class that would be a bad match up for warrior would be a bad match up for valk too. Which is basically only Gunner?

    And both classes lose pressure with the latest patch doubling back stab cooldown and losing the ability to spam it until it works.
  • MistrussMistruss ✭✭
    edited August 2017
    GlitchyTrash wrote: »
    Warrior has bad match ups? Any class that would be a bad match up for warrior would be a bad match up for valk too. Which is basically only Gunner?

    And both classes lose pressure with the latest patch doubling back stab cooldown and losing the ability to spam it until it works.

    Valks actually manage certain match ups better than warriors. For example, Archers are a bit more difficult to deal with as a warrior than a Valk. Warriors have no reliable tools to force an archer off their trap unless they want to use Smoke Aggressor which is a 50 seconds CD skill (Not sure if you want to classify that as a BM skill)

    Valks on the other hand can simply iframe over a trap to disarm it. Archers in general have no means to reset to neutral game with the placement of a trap if needed vs a valk.

    In addition to disarming traps, Valks have more ranged options and displacement tools to force opponents into bad positions. Warriors have Binding Sword and if you're tossing it out the same way a valk tosses out their sucky sucky, you're doing it wrong and not going to catch anyone decent.

    So no, they do not have the same bad match ups as Valks have more means to deal with ranged classes as opposed to Warriors.
  • CoolkiclCoolkicl ✭✭
    edited August 2017
    IMO zerk (Astance with doom and fear) is the best of all. They have infinite block and they now have 2 rolls. If someone with a good knowledge of how to counter every class, they can destroy everyone. This can only happen in the hands of someone with low ping though. They also have mocking shout and tenacity which allows them to go in with ease. In non-BM duels they are still busted because of infinite block but they can fall short against range class with mobility (Ex. Gunner, Archer, Sorc).
  • ch0obch0ob ✭✭
    Time to roll slayer
  • jrtsevenjrtseven ✭✭✭
    Coolkicl wrote: »
    IMO zerk (Astance with doom and fear) is the best of all. They have infinite block and they now have 2 rolls. If someone with a good knowledge of how to counter every class, they can destroy everyone. This can only happen in the hands of someone with low ping though. They also have mocking shout and tenacity which allows them to go in with ease. In non-BM duels they are still busted because of infinite block but they can fall short against range class with mobility (Ex. Gunner, Archer, Sorc).

    hey stop using ur brain
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