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I would question your label as well, since there actually are some Pvpers doing PvE content in the game.
yes, but are they pvpers doing pve content because they want to, or because they need to in order to get BiS gear to pvp effectively with?
They are forced to get that Top gear some people is needed to make balance in the game so if a PvPer dont want to do PvE content as HH then if wont get Top tier gear and players doing PvE cotent get the handicap but they would say that is fair in a competitive scene. That's just BS.
I have 13 classes and more than 20 characters so in order to get the "balanced" experience some PvE says BiS is the only gear that would bring then I would never enjoy that "balance" they talk so much in many characters I have because I won't have the time to farm that much.
There are many PvPers that want to play any diferent kind of class in a fair match but obviously PvEers just care to use their farmed BiS in BGs because they cant do anything without it and cries if they are killed in a combo or get off-guard and killed again. I think for those PvEers fair match would be to be the one with better gear and wait for the match making to build random teams composed with Idoneal (yes I have seen PvPers that dont go even for Guile) Guile, Misery, Ambush, Behemoth, Deathwrack, Oblit... I wonder how much those with idoneal can do against an Oblit player, I think for the things most PvEers here says that is true balance and a true competitive scenerio, just wow.
Some for gear, others because they got threatened to do it.
People play some other games solely for pvp. You don't need grind in pvp, because the point of pvping is to pvp, not worry about about farming gear to pvp. Gear is only used in many games for open world pvp or mass pvp, because those sorts of pvps are more for "war" type of things where many pve players would participate because there's less individual skill involved and they don't see it as a direct pvp competition. The point of arenas is for a competitive environment and guess what games like GW2 have? Tournaments, ranked seasons, etc.
Tera has had farm based pvp for how long now? It's been generally inactive for how long now? If the get gear formula wasn't working the first who knows how many times what makes you think it will work again? Pve isn't even that active compared to other games, why? because 'farm' nonstop isn't appealing. The idea the game requires farm is silly, because that's exactly why pvp isn't really active anyways.
Competitive environments always win over strictly rewards. Why do you think non-p2w mobas and shooters are the most dominant multi-player pvp genres? There's no real grind in any of those pvp and everything is equalized with the only imbalances coming from class imbalances, map imbalances, etc.
Consider the fact pvp on Tera is required to be far more rewarding than doing pve is, even while losing, for ques to pop instantly regularly. That seems like a good indication the pvp system as a whole is flawed. By the way, even when those matches would start they were very low in quality because you had people who had 0 interest in pvp playing pvp strictly to farm; especially those who couldn't complete end game content.
personally I HATE doing PVE for PvP winning streak, but if the farming and grinding is required in order to win in PvP, then I have to.
Best solution to this matter is providing equipments for doing pvp reward but takes a lotssssssssss of times as compared to PvE
btw look at several quitter who quitted this game but was known as best at blah blah classes, for example, Painwheel yula blah blah people
To prevent those kinda people from quitting game, you should give a random map rotation so that they will never quit game becuz they cannot be eternal champion thus cannot be bored or leaving uncertainty that why they are losing.
+15 killed PvP overnight, people stopped queuing for unequalised bgs the day it was released and it never recovered beyond heavy increase in rewards and power hours.
These are all facts.
So you have to be next level delusional or just an inexperienced player, to believe that most people will think to themselves 'oh this battleground is unequalised now, it's time to start queuing!'. It blows my mind that there are still weirdos that will sit in their dead queues and defend a broken system, it's both hilarious and depressing.
And like I said earlier, there are some PvP people who don't mind doing PvE content for gear.
Oh! You mean those so called PvPers that don't want to get in an eq battleground because they won't be able to use their farmed gear?
Oh yeah! They should be great pvpers if the lack of a pve element is making them hating pvp content.
Oh! no I mean the PvPers who actually work hard to get their gear for pvp and want un-equalized battlegrounds because equalized gear is terrible.
But it's not like you would understand at all! Since I doubt you do any pvp in the game.
Do you even know how many combinations on races and classes you can make at least?
If one as a PvPer want to enjoy every aspect of the game at that "balance" you and your so called PvPers friends labeled it then you wont be able to reach it on more than half of them in every patch and maybe not even a 1/10 of that combinations, but as a PvEer that you mostly are disguising you as a PvPer you dont care more than your main race and class combination after all.
In a real fair and balance enviroment for PvPers you would get the option to fo in BGs with all diferent combinations in races and classes because each race have low bonus stats that will make your experience in PvP diferent, something that a PvEer wont care at all because small advantages or disadvantages won't stop you from do that content, you can do properly HM dungeons in Guile and tier 2 etchings and you can do HH even in mid tier gear, however in PvP if you are on Misery with tier 2 etchings, simple brooch, and the basic inner dougal gives you after reaching lvl 65, you won't be able to win against an Oblit player with t4 etchings, new inners and marrow brooch even if the Misery player is slightly better than the blit player in PvP the diference in bonus stats is so great that the outcome is decided even before starting the battle.
There is for you and for your so called PvPers friends that just seems to be PvEers that do PvP content for amusement and not for competitive scene.
I'm not one to complain mostly...but what the heck are you going on about now? Half the stuff you say on forums is mainly nonsense dude.
For someone who doesn't care for PvP is nonsense because as PvEer you won't care for anything but your main class but for someone who cares about PvP then one would want to enjoy every class in a fair match as much as posible.
Obviously a PvEer as yourself wont understand that because your only objetive in game is have BiS and then showing off to others. That is not what a PvPer are looking for in a game dude.
laughing quite hard at this.
race bonuses mean nothing in pvp lol unless you're talking about their animations in which case still doesnt matter
the irony in this is that hardcore pve'rs care the most about those small advantages and disadvantages and pick their race accordingly.