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Gunners in Grid
Am I the only one who finds it absolutely cancerous? Even with the slight buffs? Like I'd like to be able to spam the bg because it isn't that bad BUT my damage is almost nonexistent whereas reapers or any other class can pretty much one shot me! I mean can we get some kinda gear tweeks done?
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> Why would you complain about AoE DPS in, to be specific, GRID? That battleground is designed to be a slaughter fest.
I mean it's perfectly okay to be a slaughterhouse but gunners in general only get slaughtered. Ive yet to see gunners do decently in that bg. The complaint is towards the damage that they dish out and receive.
keep looking
Also you will be surprised gunner is still pretty high up on the pvp tier list. If you are getting slaughtered by reapers and stuff, it is a higher chance that they are legitimately better than you rather than Gunner being weak.
> Most of the actual decent gunner pvpers are gone anyway.
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> Also you will be surprised gunner is still pretty high up on the pvp tier list. If you are getting slaughtered by reapers and stuff, it is a higher chance that they are legitimately better than you rather than Gunner being weak.
This is specifically directed towards the bg Grid. NOT outside of it. 1v1 3s even fwc I can do somewhat decent but Grid is a whole different story.
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> > Why would you complain about AoE DPS in, to be specific, GRID? That battleground is designed to be a slaughter fest.
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> I mean it's perfectly okay to be a slaughterhouse but gunners in general only get slaughtered. Ive yet to see gunners do decently in that bg. The complaint is towards the damage that they dish out and receive.
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Maybe post a SS instead? Thnx
http://i.imgur.com/EaocOqI.jpg
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They show gunner has about 20% less defense stat relative to valks in FWC equalized gear compared to VM9, I believe the Grid equalized gear is almost, if not exactly the same as FWC's, so it's the same situation there. In addition, I'm pretty sure gunner would need maybe +80 crit to crit almost 100% of the time on AB in that EQ gear too (not including mystic crit/CR auras). At ~+150 in EQ, that's a good 70 crit that raises the damage output of two of gunners biggest skills (AB and Balders) by ~0%, where other classes actually see meaningful damage increases from it. Gunner is very much gimped in EQ compared to it's state in open world.
Now you're welcome to argue that the state of gunner in BGs is more balanced than open world (I'd disagree), but it is factually correct that gunners' stats are worse relative to other DPS in Grid and other EQ BGs compared to how they are in own gear, both in terms of offense and defense. Note that while I haven't bothered to get numbers for them, the other plate classes will have a similar lack of defense in EQ since the issue is that there is far more flat endurance on open world gear which benefits low base endurance (plate) classes more.
And whether you think gunners are broken or not, it's in your interest to acknowledge this too. Why do you think BHS put out PVP buffs when gunners in open world gear didn't even need them? Because gunners were worse than other classes in BGs and Korean players whined about it. We end up getting buffs for open world pvp that weren't needed because BHS can't be bothered to fix the real problem: gunners can't be properly balanced in both BGs and open world because their gear is completely different.
EDIT: An addition to address OP's post: Gridiron also has a hidden buff that makes everyone deal maybe 30% or so more damage, this makes 100-0ing a lot easier, which gives some extra favor to classes that can set up combos easily and consistently put out the damage to 100-0 off their combo setup. Gunner has relatively poor combo setups and 100-0ing relies on either getting an AB reset or critting on lower crit skills, so it doesn't really benefit much from the grid specific changes, even without taking into account the poor defense and damage gunner has in EQ gear.
^ This right here. My slayer's Stunning Backhand (one of the weaker skills) deals more than 30k crit in Gridiron with only just priest buffs and mystic auras. Cruelty wasn't even activated at the time when this happened, or at least that's what I think lol.
> Tbh even priests can get penta kills in that [filtered]
Pumpy when you coming back
> BV doesn't oneshot in grid?
Nope. Unless it's timed right and crits high it never does anymore.