Feedstock Update

Vesporax · June 2016

Make rng boxes. 200g for 15 t8, with a chance for 100, 500, and 1000 fs. Everyone gets their feedstock and a goldsink is introduced.

Nektor · June 2016

Vesporax wrote: »

Make rng boxes. 200g for 15 t8, with a chance for 100, 500, and 1000 fs. Everyone gets their feedstock and a goldsink is introduced.

like we got not enough RNG in the game....

FierceFears · June 2016

Drop 100 t9 feed at the end of every normal mode, t10 feed for hard mode.

Danbeas · June 2016

Putting feedstock boxes into the vanguard store would be very helpful.

Svafnir · June 2016

Magraal wrote: »

I would like to see either Collaboration Crates added to the Vanguard/Bellicarium/Killing Spree merchants OR replacing cruxes in the MWA boxes with embers/eases and adding them to the Bonanza Box drop table.

This right here can go a long way, Treeshark, you might want to consider the idea of introducing either an old box for a new purpose or make a new one for the same reason (or, you know, modifying one of the already useless but existing ones...), you could add Titan embers and feedstock to it for now and even some other useful stuff like spellbind (tiered of course). While I do see the reason to think very carefully about the price of it in stores I'm sure it would be possible to figure out the right number of materials provided by the box and the cost of it very much like it was done with the MWA box.

Based12 · June 2016

Only 8 vanguards per char is forcing everyone to have alts, and i don't like having alts, i like playing with only 1 class, but now i'm forced to have another class, a gunner, to get more feedstock and gold, since i run out of vanguards (and hence, things to actually do in the game) in less than an hour.

Nowadays for me, i do vanguards and then i rarely do anything the rest of the day. Why? Because running dungeons isn't very rewarding if at the end there's no vanguard reward. The drops are lame, every gear dropped i don't need it, i make ilke what, 10-20 feedstock per run w/o vanguards? And i need 48 for only 1 try that will probably fail since the rate of succces of t9 is ridiculously low (my weapon took 2.2k t9 fs to make it +12, and it's a damn slaughter weapon, not even SF) and making stafall is something out of the table due to how expensive stuff is (in MT MWA is at 50g each now, and t9 fs at 35g each)

If there's something to fix, is content to do throughout the day. I run out of vanguards, i run out of things to do. All i can do is jump into my [filtered] alt and do the same [filtered] i did on my main, but slower. Yeah i run dungeons anyways, but it's not rewarding at all. At least make it so after doing a dungeon i go out with at least 48 feedstock to try 1 more time to enchant my damn equipment.

Also, on another note. Update buddyup rewards, recieving a +12 scroll at 65 that only works with tier 1-7 items, and the first thing you recieve after reaching 65 is an idoneal set which u can't enchant, and then a tier 8 set (DN) is just a BIG FAT NONFUNNY JOKE. I got a friend to play, when he reached 65 he was very disappointed he couldn't make his weapon +12 right away, and he hasn't played in over a day now

Feii · June 2016

Please add FS to IoD Bams at least. So while we do dailies, we have a bit more of an incentive.

Neian · June 2016

I would recommend changing the Vanguard box already available for sale in the shop. I'm not sure what the box is called and cannot check because I'm at work but it was the box for enchanting and I think it was like 500+ credits for one. The drops in there are doodoo (I think it still drops T6 feed lol) and should be changed to drop things similar to the Bonanza box.

Nibellung · June 2016

@Treeshark u can put a FS box costing an amount of vanguard credits just like alkahest box.

KairiTenebrarum · June 2016

You can make the new enchant system be tier related, not name related and have a higher chance of enchanting and not increasing the chance. It would help a lot.

And make IoD have T9 Spellbind in tokens. T8 Spellbind force us to buy Non-Tier Spellbind.

JBGaming · June 2016

Update on Feedstock

I have requested before that Tier 8 and Tier 9 be dropped. Just as we do for the low levels 1-anynumber. Including Alkyhest. I do IoD on a daily basis since it has come out. I don't care to run dungeons with parties of people with a chance to get what I need to advance. With my experience of IoD. I have been able to get the new accessories at a decent pace, as well as glyphs (still working on those), and will soon have the fod material needed for the new accessories you can make from the bg store. For me this has been more convenient than grinding dungeons all day. IoD takes about an hour or so out of my day depending on if I buff or not. I'm gratefull for semi-enigmatics to drop, this is very helpful to roll the jewelry or low level gear should I chose. I am also grateful for the complete crystal binds that drop as I am still working towards my dyads. I'm grateful for the tier 9 that is awarded in the VG.

I do wish the VG for Tier 9 feedstock was a bit more. If Tier 9 feedstock was removed from VG reward I agree that if it was a dropped item that IoD would be packed "Maybe" People complain about how long it takes to do as it is. They want this easy.

My Answer:
It would be an easy fix to not only increase your feedstock supply in dungeons, making Feedstock increased in rewards, but also to make the enchanting feedstock box an new thing for Vanguard stores and BG stores. Also adding this particular feedstock to the sea chest.

I do not recommend a Strong box even as not everyone is going to buy keys to open them regularly unless the have expendable cash to use.

1. increase feedstock reward in VG.
2. Increase amount of feedstock stacks in Dungeons
3. Add Enchanting Feedstock Box to BG stores.
4. (Optional and preferred personally.) Feedstock drops from IoD bams in stacks of 5-30 each.
5. Drop Tier 10 feedstock from Hydraths.

Mui · June 2016

westcliff wrote: »

How about a completely different idea: Tweak the enchantment process itself.

What I mean is greatly increase the chance of successful enchants, but also increase the the number of materials you need to enchant by an appropriate factor.

What is driving people away from this game is not the grinding. I'm pretty sure ppl don't mind to work a bit for their gear. What is discouraging people is the constant failure that is part of the upgrading process and the unfairness between people with bad and ppl with good luck.

I don't know the accurate numbers but let's assume you need on average 1440 feedstock to upgrade a mid tier weapon from +9 to +12. That's exactly 30 attempts. So in my example ppl have 27 bad experiences and just 3 good ones. In other words, 90% failure.

I'm proposing to turn that number around (i.e. a 90% success rate) but increase the number of feedstock needed to 432 (1440*0.9/3) per attempt.

Yes, you can still fail but because of the higher success rate, the rate will average out must faster and a lot less people will find themselves at the bottom end of RNG.

Maybe implement it in a different tab from the classic enchanting, like how the enchanting with items works now. That would give people the choice who prefer the old system.

Even with current average success rate, it takes me personally far less than 1440 feedstock to go from +9 to +12. Sure, you fail a few times, but it's usually never more than 500 feedstock altogether. Your proposed system would put us way in the red. We'd have less feedstock to acquire, and we'd need (possibly) more than double the amount to enchant our gear.

JasonLucas · June 2016

Treeshark, please don't take too long to fix this feedstock issue. If you could add back the feedstock base for Dreadnaught it could also help decrease the queue time for Kalivan's Challenge (or at least give it a big boost in the feedstock drop here).

Also, I know everyone's attention is on feedstock, but lets not forget about Titan's Ember, they aren't coming from VGs anymore and the only source is FWC boxes/Ghillieglade (no one does it since it is just time wasting), prices are already rising on TR.

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