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What impact does EME have on game design?

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  • We are their source of major income (NA TERA is earning most income for BH iirc). If we don't spend money, they can't make money to develop PUBG and TERA M (which is planned to release world wide - likely on 2019 or 2020 - on iOS/Android). If we stop spending because of free stuff in game, they get no money, which is huge No No for them.
    So go buy some loot boxes. Koreans expect us to spending more rather than asking for free/cheap stuff.
  • ObsObs ✭✭✭
    We are their source of major income (NA TERA is earning most income for BH iirc). If we don't spend money, they can't make money to develop PUBG and TERA M (which is planned to release world wide - likely on 2019 or 2020 - on iOS/Android). If we stop spending because of free stuff in game, they get no money, which is huge No No for them.
    So go buy some loot boxes. Koreans expect us to spending more rather than asking for free/cheap stuff.

    Ya man, currently #3 on most played games on Steam (http://steamcharts.com/) while being a pay to play early access game sure isn't a money maker. It was also temporarily #1 last week.

    Whatever you say.
  • We are their source of major income (NA TERA is earning most income for BH iirc). If we don't spend money, they can't make money to develop PUBG and TERA M (which is planned to release world wide - likely on 2019 or 2020 - on iOS/Android). If we stop spending because of free stuff in game, they get no money, which is huge No No for them.
    So go buy some loot boxes. Koreans expect us to spending more rather than asking for free/cheap stuff.

    It was BHS's decision to choose to allocate resources to Tera Mobile. (Wonder what EME knows about that decision, if anything?) Business-wise, they should have the money to do it currently, not for us to spend more so they are able to do it. Also idk how many people from NA were asking for a mobile game, especially is some of us are still begging for game optimization and timely changes to our PC version.
    With the money spent from our region, they should be able to make some changes keeping our region in mind. Their other ventures are just that, other things. This is why we need EME to do a better job advocating and have something to show for it.
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2017
    Obs wrote: »
    We are their source of major income (NA TERA is earning most income for BH iirc). If we don't spend money, they can't make money to develop PUBG and TERA M (which is planned to release world wide - likely on 2019 or 2020 - on iOS/Android). If we stop spending because of free stuff in game, they get no money, which is huge No No for them.
    So go buy some loot boxes. Koreans expect us to spending more rather than asking for free/cheap stuff.

    Ya man, currently #3 on most played games on Steam (http://steamcharts.com/) while being a pay to play early access game sure isn't a money maker. It was also temporarily #1 last week.

    Whatever you say.
    Haha, and judging by how TERA is pushing their marketing department pretty hard now, sales and whatnot day in and day out, you don't need a finance degree to realize that it's not making as much money as it did anymore.
  • Pixelator wrote: »
    Obs wrote: »
    We are their source of major income (NA TERA is earning most income for BH iirc). If we don't spend money, they can't make money to develop PUBG and TERA M (which is planned to release world wide - likely on 2019 or 2020 - on iOS/Android). If we stop spending because of free stuff in game, they get no money, which is huge No No for them.
    So go buy some loot boxes. Koreans expect us to spending more rather than asking for free/cheap stuff.

    Ya man, currently #3 on most played games on Steam (http://steamcharts.com/) while being a pay to play early access game sure isn't a money maker. It was also temporarily #1 last week.

    Whatever you say.
    Haha, and judging by how TERA is pushing marketing pretty hard now, sales and whatnot day in and day out, you don't need a finance degree to realize that it's not making as much money as it did anymore.

    I don't think it's any doubt that TERA is making less money. This correlated with the declining population shows something is up. Less players and lower player satisfaction often means that people are less inclined to spend money. (Among other reasons as well.)

    But the point was PUBG is doing well and doesn't need Tera income either. It's quite possibly a drop in the bucket to what they're currently making.
  • edited September 2017
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Jenieve wrote: »
    EME is a subsidiary so they could have pull if they wanted to, but they dont because it costs less to get the same content as KR. So long as Chris Lee is leading the show NA will always suck.

    BHS owns EME, so many of the things that could be done with the NA perspective end up being halted for BHS.

    I do remember clearly how EME wanted to bring dragon tokens and scales at the same time than royal dragons but BHS didn't let them.

    yeah, I remember the dragon fiasco also. I remember that it was like after maintenance and people were farming for the dragon scales on iod, and about 2 or 3 pm eme came on forums talking about they don't know why it isn't dropping the dragon tokens, and they would look into it, but....you can buy the loot boxes. it wasn't until like 2 weeks later they finally told us bhs wouldn't let them do the dragon token thing for obtaining them in game. so either bhs didn't implement the dragon tokens and didn't tell eme, or.....eme played it off like they didn't know what was going on to sell lootboxes.

    If that were intended for BHS since the start and EME was not aware of it I think EME did the best they could, there is no owner of a company that likes employs that will point fingers at them because "some minor issue".

    For me is almost clear that EME really thought that BHS will allow that system since start, but BHS changed their mind in the last minute and didn't inform EME about the changes. EME being a loyal company to their owners tryed to not make BHS as the one at fault in the first glance and waited until the uproar settle a little to inform about the bad news.

    I kinda thought that at first and I still want to believe that, but it did look suspect when the only dragons you could get at that time were the lootboxes, and it looked like it was a money grab.
    The problem is that angry/bitter people are not going to just throw open their wallets and spend instead. They're going to be so pissed off that now they won't buy anything. So the last-minute pulling of the tokens definitely was not some sort of twisted marketing ploy to sell lootboxes on EME's part. (As far as marketing goes, it was one of the worst moves imaginable; no one knew that more than they did.) But the whole reason EME's method was rejected by BHS was, in the end, that BHS wanted the dragons to be a more of a cash shop privilege, whereas EME thought combat passives should be accessible to everyone. For the most part, BHS won the fight (as you might expect), and now (as everyone also expected) we're seeing Round 2 with the new phoenix mounts.

    true, but eme could have told us that day that bhs pulled the idea instead of stringing us along like they didn't know what happened. that and the only way you could get a dragon was lootboxes, didn't help eme's credibility. that's what made people distrust eme. for 2 weeks, eme staff claimed they didn't know what happened but are looking into it, and then when people speculated on what happened ( many were actually correct ), eme staff got mad and made snarky comments, and basically lied to the people.

    If they did that they would be pointing the finger at BHS while they were still trying to negotiate a compromise, and that's politically stupid (BHS are basically the boss). Besides, if they just turned around right away and said "BHS didn't let us; sorry" still no one would have believed them. They still would have said that it was all a lie from the start, or that EME is just trying to avoid responsibility by shifting the blame.

    And well... I was there too at the time. At first the community team didn't know what was going on, and then the production team made a statement to basically wait until they could work it out. After the statement from the production team (within the same day), there was no claim that they "didn't know what happened" -- just that everyone had to wait until it worked out. To make sure I wasn't missing anything, I re-read all the staff posts during that period to find the "snarky comments" and when they "basically lied" -- I really don't think it can be characterized that way, particularly in retrospect when you see what actually resulted.

    I do agree with you that the whole incident hurt credibility and trust during that time. But given the situation that occurred, I don't see how they could have avoided it given that promises were made and they were forced to break the promise by a higher authority. There's no option but for people to get mad and disappointed. From what various staff have said (including Treeshark on his farewell stream), it's not a situation any of them were happy about even though they fought to avoid it.


    And well, as for "transparency to the players"... what people really want is just for them to "get things done." True transparency would just come across as a series of excuses to be attacked and belittled because people assume everything's easier than it actually is. As it stands, people don't understand what they do at all, and just assume "you're paid to work on TERA all the time, why aren't you getting anything done?!" I do think they could be more communicative about forward-looking issues, and provide more status updates about known problems... plus I'd also like to try to push them again to shed more light on their actual jobs for people who care... but I don't think you can take an honest look at the forums over the years and really believe that transparency is what people, on the whole, truly want. It's become a meme, like so many other things.
  • the answer is none they have to ask bhs about everything first
  • Hmm so no actual game changes, just events that have widely been seen as unbalanced and poorly planned.

    How about servers, any news on that EME? The lag thread was unpinned, but there was no communication otherwise zz
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