Slayers are bad?

LessThanNone · October 2017

All classes are viable if you aren't looking to play at the top end. At the top end slayers are still bottom tier, with a base dps only slightly greater or equal to ninjas. The only reason you see slayers that are even able to compete with the other classes is when they get ICB rng which makes it so that they can match a warriors dps. However, this is rather rare and shouldn't be taken into account when talking about the class as a whole.

So, are slayers bad?
If you're looking to play a class casually then they're fine. Any class is fine for this and any class can clear any of the current content.
If you're looking to complete with other players dps at the top end then they're trash tier along with ninjas unless you manage to get the ICB rng required to do around the same dps as a top end warrior.

ImJustBad · October 2017

LessThanNone wrote: »

All classes are viable if you aren't looking to play at the top end. At the top end slayers are still bottom tier, with a base dps only slightly greater or equal to ninjas. The only reason you see slayers that are even able to compete with the other classes is when they get ICB rng which makes it so that they can match a warriors dps. However, this is rather rare and shouldn't be taken into account when talking about the class as a whole.

So, are slayers bad?
If you're looking to play a class casually then they're fine. Any class is fine for this and any class can clear any of the current content.
If you're looking to complete with other players dps at the top end then they're trash tier along with ninjas unless you manage to get the ICB rng required to do around the same dps as a top end warrior.

this. As a competitive gamer, i'm looking for the best performance late game.
im looking for versatility, a fluid character.
Im looking for a class that can ultimately "out-play" other classes in their given role.

Minazuki · October 2017

A class wont make a gamer become competitive. It is the gamers skill to make them competitive.
The outcome would be different on each player.
Sorry for my broken engrish

ImJustBad · October 2017

True, but the gamers skill can only take him/her so far if the class isn't top tier.

Minazuki · October 2017

Who decide which class is top tier?
The outcome would be different on each player.

ImJustBad · October 2017

Statistics.
cant beat hard solid facts.

Haggard86 · October 2017

If you want to be top tier, then get used to switching chars a lot. Every time they buff or nerf classes, the order changes, and it happens often.

HowAboutNo · October 2017

Slayers probably have a bad image because they used to be bottom tier, plus there aren't many people that stick with them and become good. As you said, the DPS outcome depends on the class, but it also depends on the player (their experience / talent). But this class's overall potential is currently mid-tier (without high ICB multiplier).

As @Haggard86 said, if your main goal is max DPS, then you'll need to rotate to whichever class is top-tier in a patch.
If you're looking to "out-play" people, however, then you might want to choose a class that's not officially the best and master that one, and make it a challenge to be better than others, which might be more exciting, depending on what you want.
What i mean is, I tried out Archer recently and got told I was best DPS in the party. Do I feel accomplished or like I "out-played" people by standing at range with usually no need to dodge anything and just spamming my attacks? Not really, but that's me. But if it was primary goal to be top DPS then I'm pretty sure this would have satisfied me.
Everyone has different goals. So if you're focusing on DPS, choose your class depending on what you prefer, big numbers, a challenge, etc...

LesbianVi · October 2017

Recently I am killing IOD bams to get to tier 6 lol

Slayers seems doing it slowly if I get unlucky. This might not say a lot but as I noticed Slayer and Sorc relies on Critical hits more than other classes and they do it less than others, on some bam it goes so fast and sometimes and many times no crits at all and I cry. I know Zerk requires much crit but at least I see some improvements if you don't crit the 1st time.

Again as other players that run things at high end, and they said before I don't get why Talent system stays in Ktera, this is about game play and other regions are effected by the lack of balance.

ImJustBad · October 2017

HowAboutNo wrote: »

Slayers probably have a bad image because they used to be bottom tier, plus there aren't many people that stick with them and become good. As you said, the DPS outcome depends on the class, but it also depends on the player (their experience / talent). But this class's overall potential is currently mid-tier (without high ICB multiplier).

As @Haggard86 said, if your main goal is max DPS, then you'll need to rotate to whichever class is top-tier in a patch.
If you're looking to "out-play" people, however, then you might want to choose a class that's not officially the best and master that one, and make it a challenge to be better than others, which might be more exciting, depending on what you want.
What i mean is, I tried out Archer recently and got told I was best DPS in the party. Do I feel accomplished or like I "out-played" people by standing at range with usually no need to dodge anything and just spamming my attacks? Not really, but that's me. But if it was primary goal to be top DPS then I'm pretty sure this would have satisfied me.
Everyone has different goals. So if you're focusing on DPS, choose your class depending on what you prefer, big numbers, a challenge, etc...

i guess you are totally right. that would be the most competitive aspect of the game. to out shine others with a class least used.

Ves1978 · October 2017

LesbianVi wrote: »

Recently I am killing IOD bams to get to tier 6 lol

Slayers seems doing it slowly if I get unlucky. This might not say a lot but as I noticed Slayer and Sorc relies on Critical hits more than other classes and they do it less than others, on some bam it goes so fast and sometimes and many times no crits at all and I cry. I know Zerk requires much crit but at least I see some improvements if you don't crit the 1st time.

Again as other players that run things at high end, and they said before I don't get why Talent system stays in Ktera, this is about game play and other regions are effected by the lack of balance.

idk what's your gear and crit factor but my DW slayer clears IoD quests faster than my DW archer. since i have enough crit i use double energetic IV and have cdr roll on weapon so measured slice is ready every 7 seconds. all you have to do is make sure you're behind the bam at that moment

ElinUsagi · October 2017

Ves1978 wrote: »

LesbianVi wrote: »

Recently I am killing IOD bams to get to tier 6 lol

Slayers seems doing it slowly if I get unlucky. This might not say a lot but as I noticed Slayer and Sorc relies on Critical hits more than other classes and they do it less than others, on some bam it goes so fast and sometimes and many times no crits at all and I cry. I know Zerk requires much crit but at least I see some improvements if you don't crit the 1st time.

Again as other players that run things at high end, and they said before I don't get why Talent system stays in Ktera, this is about game play and other regions are effected by the lack of balance.

idk what's your gear and crit factor but my DW slayer clears IoD quests faster than my DW archer. since i have enough crit i use double energetic IV and have cdr roll on weapon so measured slice is ready every 7 seconds. all you have to do is make sure you're behind the bam at that moment

Even in Misery gear an Slayer can take out 3 IoD bams (ie. Iron giants) in less than a minute when your criticals proceed.

But critical rate wont come from gear it self but most from Accesories. The only piece of gear you will get critical factor for your recomended settings are Gloves and, is about preference if you want to make it Energetic Etchings, Keen Etchings or Pumped etchings.

In my opinion Keen etchings will benefit Slayer the most on IoD because top tier bams have lots of critical resist factor, for dungeons Energetic Etchings should prove more useful because Slayers get to desinc a lot if you are a high ping player, and for PvP you could go with Energetic or Pumped.

LesbianVi · October 2017

Ves1978 wrote: »

LesbianVi wrote: »

Recently I am killing IOD bams to get to tier 6 lol

Slayers seems doing it slowly if I get unlucky. This might not say a lot but as I noticed Slayer and Sorc relies on Critical hits more than other classes and they do it less than others, on some bam it goes so fast and sometimes and many times no crits at all and I cry. I know Zerk requires much crit but at least I see some improvements if you don't crit the 1st time.

Again as other players that run things at high end, and they said before I don't get why Talent system stays in Ktera, this is about game play and other regions are effected by the lack of balance.

idk what's your gear and crit factor but my DW slayer clears IoD quests faster than my DW archer. since i have enough crit i use double energetic IV and have cdr roll on weapon so measured slice is ready every 7 seconds. all you have to do is make sure you're behind the bam at that moment

well, that is actually the point, with same stats and stuff Slayers fall short but if you are reach and get so much crit they are better

Ves1978 · October 2017

LesbianVi wrote: »

Ves1978 wrote: »

LesbianVi wrote: »

Recently I am killing IOD bams to get to tier 6 lol

Slayers seems doing it slowly if I get unlucky. This might not say a lot but as I noticed Slayer and Sorc relies on Critical hits more than other classes and they do it less than others, on some bam it goes so fast and sometimes and many times no crits at all and I cry. I know Zerk requires much crit but at least I see some improvements if you don't crit the 1st time.

Again as other players that run things at high end, and they said before I don't get why Talent system stays in Ktera, this is about game play and other regions are effected by the lack of balance.

idk what's your gear and crit factor but my DW slayer clears IoD quests faster than my DW archer. since i have enough crit i use double energetic IV and have cdr roll on weapon so measured slice is ready every 7 seconds. all you have to do is make sure you're behind the bam at that moment

well, that is actually the point, with same stats and stuff Slayers fall short but if you are reach and get so much crit they are better

well, my crit is 56+274, that's kinda enough

Slayers are bad?

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