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Dismantling Conversion rate feedback

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  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    Psyphur wrote: »
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    hmmmmmmmmmmm.

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    Intricate Enigmatic Scrolls were the ones that was once sold on General Merchant shop, which explains why Intricate Identification Scrolls has its name. It makes sense since Common Enigmatic Scrolls has Common Identification Scroll.
  • @seandynamite @Spacecats honest feedback would be to change the other mats (except common scrolls) to return at least 2 tokens each. with these rates you are screwing everyone over and making everyone feel like their other mats are worth as much as a common scroll, which is not true. I would also suggest to nerf goddess tears and lakan's scales.
  • Wanna reset the market? Fine, do it without [filtered] everyone up. Share this info before ppl hard invest in it. As someone said, we are not mad bc of the conversion rate, we are mad bc this info is released 1 week before patch. And this isnt something so hard to code that they just figure out the conversion rate. Its adjusting a value, they could have said something like, 1 week after Ktera got the patch. This is just eme [filtered] things up while fixing something they broke themself.

    No market was ever supposed to get that much advanced notice -- certainly K-TERA didn't get it. We actually did have an advantage already because a) we knew this reset was going to happen soon, and b) we knew the rates were going to be customized to each market. So while the specifics weren't known, a lot more info was out there than K-TERA got before their big change. By comparing markets and prices, attentive people would have had a general idea what the trends would be, even if they didn't know the details.

    To be honest, in a lot of games, they wouldn't even release market-impacting information like this until after the game goes down for maintenance so that no one gets an advantage. So while I think there are a lot of issues related to this change (particularly the details), this one in particular I can't quite agree with. Giant market resets like this aren't supposed to be something that impacts the game economy months in advance, as it only would have further undermined and broken the economy in the meantime (beyond the degree to which it was already arguably broken).
  • Wanna reset the market? Fine, do it without [filtered] everyone up. Share this info before ppl hard invest in it. As someone said, we are not mad bc of the conversion rate, we are mad bc this info is released 1 week before patch. And this isnt something so hard to code that they just figure out the conversion rate. Its adjusting a value, they could have said something like, 1 week after Ktera got the patch. This is just eme [filtered] things up while fixing something they broke themself.

    No market was ever supposed to get that much advanced notice -- certainly K-TERA didn't get it. We actually did have an advantage already because a) we knew this reset was going to happen soon, and b) we knew the rates were going to be customized to each market. So while the specifics weren't known, a lot more info was out there than K-TERA got before their big change. By comparing markets and prices, attentive people would have had a general idea what the trends would be, even if they didn't know the details.

    To be honest, in a lot of games, they wouldn't even release market-impacting information like this until after the game goes down for maintenance so that no one gets an advantage. So while I think there are a lot of issues related to this change (particularly the details), this one in particular I can't quite agree with. Giant market resets like this aren't supposed to be something that impacts the game economy months in advance, as it only would have further undermined and broken the economy in the meantime (beyond the degree to which it was already arguably broken).

    This only [filtered] ppl that tried to prepare for patch, ppl who actually try to think in advance. I just spoke with someone who had 15 mil invested in SES, and i dont think those ppl should be "lol get rekt [filtered]" when they loose more than 50% of their investment. Im glad i only bought 1k SES tbh, bc i can afford loosing the money, but i dont feel that preparing for a patch should be punished like this.
  • Elinu1Elinu1 Canada ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Welp I just got [filtered] up the a$$ without the lube for saving millions in mats. This makes me tempted to quit tera, been playing since cbt and this is the worst mistake eme has done (even more than the 1% mount), and believe me I have seen a lot of [filtered] ups from eme.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Elinu1 wrote: »
    Wlp I just got [filtered] up the a$$ without the lube for saving millions in mats

    Something more intellingent would be to trade all those mats fro elite vouchers or cash shop items.

    Thats what i did with all the mats that i knew existed in excess in NA Tera.

    When we got the info about the new patch giving us the option to do 16 vanguards, giving us more gold, giving us gems and with the gear progression being dependant on gold, if you add that to the fact that old mats were going to be only used to convert into tokens for gearing in old gear, you would understand that hoarding tons of mats on your bank was the most risky desicion. This we all know from several months ago.
  • Elinu1Elinu1 Canada ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Elinu1 wrote: »
    Wlp I just got [filtered] up the a$$ without the lube for saving millions in mats

    Something more intellingent would be to trade all those mats fro elite vouchers or cash shop items.

    Thats what i did with all the mats that i knew existed in excess in NA Tera.

    When we got the info about the new patch giving us the option to do 16 vanguards, giving us more gold, giving us gems and with the gear progression being dependant on gold, if you add that to the fact that old mats were going to be only used to convert into tokens for gearing in old gear, you would understand that hoarding tons of mats on your bank was the most risky desicion. This we all know from several months ago.

    I did not buy the mats, I had 25k keys used to obtain the mats from last SB event. Just an fyi that's probably over 10k US dollars worth of keys(if bought with cash), a majority I bought off broker for over a years time. That is a [filtered] slap to the face.

    I don't like ranting, but come on eme use your brain and rework the rates to a more appropriate rate
  • Elinu1 wrote: »
    I did not buy the mats, I had 25k keys used to obtain the mats from last SB event. Just an fyi that's probably over 10k US dollars worth of keys(if bought with cash), a majority I bought off broker for over a years time. That is a [filtered] slap to the face.

    I don't like ranting, but come on eme use your brain and rework the rates to a more appropriate rate

    My feelings exactly, but EME are pretty known to do this already. Have cash grabbing events making things seem valuable then throwing all that value away in the near future. Especially when the strongbox event that happened a year and a half ago giving out 2k mwa, 2k e.alks, 2k p.alks. Mongos that gave them out like candy a month later.
  • Elinu1 wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Elinu1 wrote: »
    Wlp I just got [filtered] up the a$$ without the lube for saving millions in mats

    Something more intellingent would be to trade all those mats fro elite vouchers or cash shop items.

    Thats what i did with all the mats that i knew existed in excess in NA Tera.

    When we got the info about the new patch giving us the option to do 16 vanguards, giving us more gold, giving us gems and with the gear progression being dependant on gold, if you add that to the fact that old mats were going to be only used to convert into tokens for gearing in old gear, you would understand that hoarding tons of mats on your bank was the most risky desicion. This we all know from several months ago.

    I did not buy the mats, I had 25k keys used to obtain the mats from last SB event. Just an fyi that's probably over 10k US dollars worth of keys(if bought with cash), a majority I bought off broker for over a years time. That is a [filtered] slap to the face.

    I don't like ranting, but come on eme use your brain and rework the rates to a more appropriate rate

    get over it or quit
  • Naru2008Naru2008 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    ROBOT9000 wrote: »
    Elinu1 wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Elinu1 wrote: »
    Wlp I just got [filtered] up the a$$ without the lube for saving millions in mats

    Something more intellingent would be to trade all those mats fro elite vouchers or cash shop items.

    Thats what i did with all the mats that i knew existed in excess in NA Tera.

    When we got the info about the new patch giving us the option to do 16 vanguards, giving us more gold, giving us gems and with the gear progression being dependant on gold, if you add that to the fact that old mats were going to be only used to convert into tokens for gearing in old gear, you would understand that hoarding tons of mats on your bank was the most risky desicion. This we all know from several months ago.

    I did not buy the mats, I had 25k keys used to obtain the mats from last SB event. Just an fyi that's probably over 10k US dollars worth of keys(if bought with cash), a majority I bought off broker for over a years time. That is a [filtered] slap to the face.

    I don't like ranting, but come on eme use your brain and rework the rates to a more appropriate rate

    get over it or quit

    Have you even read half the points stated in this thread where the conversion (which IS necessary, I agree) on some items make literally no sense and (for the most part) the rate is crap-poor when something of greater value is the same in conversion?
  • DIONIDIONI ✭✭✭
    The table is harsh but some nerf was needed to avoid face roll stuff, i was wondering about legit face rolling day 1 lol

    Still i they should have warned it before, that is why theres so many players selling stuff today.
  • Since the thread with the table itself is locked, I'll post it here...

    @seandynamite the table has a naming error, I think. Chance Engine and Risk Amplifier labels are backwards... I hope.
  • c0gc0g ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Whether it's actual money spent or that players farmed hard for valuable mats in anticipation of the change, it is the player's time, efforts and resource that went into the game. KTera's conversion rate was all the info anyone could use and that was months ago, so who in the right mind wouldn't act on that information and make plans storing up valuable mats and dumping others to prepare for the revamp?

    And now with the release of the actual conversion rates just one week prior to the revamp, this isn't just a slap in the face of numerous players who have invested so much in the game. It's a blatant attempt to punch you right in the face so you'd break a nose and maybe shatter a jaw. Given such short time for players to act, all this reeks of a (deliberate?) attempt to devalue most of the mats players have in their possession and reduce the amount of gold floating in the economy. Whether this is in fact true is besides the point. Bottom line is... they've outright insulted all our hard work.

    There's a much wiser and more empathetic way to introduce changes that could make players feel just a wee bit put off at least, as opposed to the seething fury and sh|tstorm that's getting stirred up right now. No... not even say, devaluing SES by half of the value everyone would expect it to be. No moderation and no appreciation or understanding of the efforts so many players have put in these months just for the change, only that it's done "BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL IN THE CURRENT ECONOMY" and so conveniently that everyone who worked for it would practically lose much if not most of what they have unless they do something about it within the space of one short week!

    If you guys wanna manipulate things this way, then thank you for sending a very clear message to many of us... "I can't trust if my irl money can do anything of worth to me if I spend it on this game". Not even a slight hint of effort at moderation... "800 tokens is now 28 tokens by some immutable justification, so just swallow it bxxxx! And please spend more on Tera." So say the blokes that have just spat in your face and belittled what you've invested or done for the game.

  • JenieveJenieve ✭✭✭
    Ketoth wrote: »
    its basically a hard reset on na economy. getting rid of all past events rewards (aka mongos)

    If they wanted to do a hard reset on the economy the correct path would be to have NO CONVERSION and have everyone restart like a new season.
  • First clue the info was leaked was when I read a post in Discord

    Obsie - Last Sunday at 8:54 AM
    [MT]
    WTS MES/BES in bulk
    WTB Spellbind/Goddess Tear/Goddess Gemstone

    Thought why buy Goddess Tear/Goddess Gemstone
    Well we know now
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