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  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Equitas wrote: »
    Literally all I'm seeing in this thread is people complaining that they can't convert all their materials and have maxed out gear right out of the gate. Yeah, people like @Error12345 might rage and call me a "f***ing idiot" without actually providing a counter-argument, but that's really all this boils down to. God forbid you actually have to run a few more dungeons to get your gear enchanted. What else are you going to do? Sit in Velika or Highwatch and complain about being bored? I think you need to be reminded that you are entitled to nothing

    This is mostly the issue with some players, they thought that they could start the new patch with all their alts with full top tier +2, and then sell VM9 +15 on broker using the lib's buyer to make gold.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    Lets see about mats.

    Last Year: there was Kyra specifically was giving materials, many players hoarded tons of mats by running mostly SSNM which was very fast. many farmed years of mats, the whole year's economy was effected by that

    and then this year since anniversary only: We had anniversary highlights dungeons and tokens, a lot of Bonanza boxes led to a lotta MWA, SB, MES, SES, a lotttttttttttttttttttttt. Feedstock a bit too,

    Then again summer festival, bonanza boxes in the shop, again many farmed those alone for mats, again lots of MWA, SB, MES, SES and a bit of feedstock

    Before that there were crabs, a lotta feedstock, lots of feedstock, too many feedstock. you could also buy lots of those mats as they cheap as heck because they were flooded.

    Then Argon event, ignore other small event and focus on this one. Billions of feedstock, Trillions of SB, Millions of SES from Argon event alone and not long ago and people were hoarding for next gear patch. Economy was broken as heck that you could buy anything really cheap.

    So, you got all those mats, by simply doing events or buy them from hands of others because simple everyone could easily farm a lot. Too many mats was flooded to NA for community and there was and still there is whining.

    Now, it is a very good opportunity for EME to fix the problem of players with hoards of mats. And some of you ARE CRYING and attacking others because of the mats which were hoarded from broken events.

    If anything we should be looking forward to this, this brings back the line between pro players and focused players with event runners that get +15 and think they can be toxic to anyone in game or forums.

    So I stand with my stance with GREED only reason for recent crying threads.

    @Spacecats @Denommenator @seandynamite @Halrath

    Grinding and fair distribute of mats and well planned events with balanced loots and clearing the line of pro players and casual players won't kill the game, it revives Tera. So don't give in please, and keep this ratio, don't buff anything or again we miss this opportunity and things will go downward again.

    Some people have urge to say something even though they have no clue what are they talking about.

    Imagine if you deposit 100$ to the bank, and 5 minutes after that they tell you it's now worth 10$...... still don't get it?

    México, one of the countries that belongs to G20 (I expect that you know what is that) had to convert their money several years ago due to inflation, they made $1,000 = $1 (with their own money).

    So stop complaining and learn about real things and you will see how this kind of thing is what you do when your economy was screwed at some point.
  • Maybe one day you will realize that those rates are just not right... hint.. look at T12 feeds for example.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe one day you will realize that those rates are just not right... hint.. look at T12 feeds for example.

    It was explained many times that conversion rates and prices on token shop were made using the data of how many of the old enchanting materials were handed and being keep into players hands.

    It is only that people want to start with full top gear +2 with all their alts and those keep calling those rate unfair, with no sense, not right, etc.

    Fact is current conversion rates and token shop prices is what was needed to reset the economy at one point it can start almost fresh anew.

    If you want to call this not fair, Imagine how much is fair to be first place on CU when almost a slim amount of people spend gold on broker or other kind of services that go at the winner guild?

    We are talking about one of the "biggest" content for PvPers and the prizes for winners are 1 ground mount and a rng box for t4 etchings that will give you an ephemeral version most of the times. Look at how most of the PvPers were almost neglected by BHS and EME all this patch and had to work more time to get Deathwrack (not even bis because Oblit is the real BiS) than any of the PvEers.

    Jack pots dont even equal the value of drops and rewards of a mid tier dungeon, you will be happy to see lots of valiant pots, or nostrums, or war keybadges on your hands after a long q time for CS or FWC battleground and a fair amount of time to get it finished.

    These conversion trades makes at some point things a little bit better leveled between many players and make an oportinuty to make better desicions in the near future to not break the economy again, oh but forget it, we have a Kyra trowing rewards like crazy in few weeks, so economy will be most likely to broken again before this year comes to an end...

    Reset economy then Kyra in few weeks and people still complain because they dont have their full top +2 for all their alts... yes that's not right.
  • I read 1st sentence of your last post and I refuse to read the rest... its not about how much tokens we will get from old mats it's about spending TEN times more to re-buy your own stuff.

    How all other publishers can do it right, only EME has "different" ideas?
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    I read 1st sentence of your last post and I refuse to read the rest... its not about how much tokens we will get from old mats it's about spending TEN times more to re-buy your own stuff.

    How all other publishers can do it right, only EME has "different" ideas?

    Again only for you
    México, one of the countries that belongs to G20 (I expect that you know what is that) had to convert their money several years ago due to inflation, they made $1,000 = $1 (with their own money).
  • ElinUsagi wrote: »
    I read 1st sentence of your last post and I refuse to read the rest... its not about how much tokens we will get from old mats it's about spending TEN times more to re-buy your own stuff.

    How all other publishers can do it right, only EME has "different" ideas?

    Again only for you
    México, one of the countries that belongs to G20 (I expect that you know what is that) had to convert their money several years ago due to inflation, they made $1,000 = $1 (with their own money).

    I live in country who printed highest ever note, you don't have to explain economy to me.

    At this point it looks like you and Lesbian would be happy if EME reset your whole account and you had to start all from nothing...
  • LesbianVi wrote: »
    Lets see about mats.

    Last Year: there was Kyra specifically was giving materials, many players hoarded tons of mats by running mostly SSNM which was very fast. many farmed years of mats, the whole year's economy was effected by that

    and then this year since anniversary only: We had anniversary highlights dungeons and tokens, a lot of Bonanza boxes led to a lotta MWA, SB, MES, SES, a lotttttttttttttttttttttt. Feedstock a bit too,

    Then again summer festival, bonanza boxes in the shop, again many farmed those alone for mats, again lots of MWA, SB, MES, SES and a bit of feedstock

    Before that there were crabs, a lotta feedstock, lots of feedstock, too many feedstock. you could also buy lots of those mats as they cheap as heck because they were flooded.

    Then Argon event, ignore other small event and focus on this one. Billions of feedstock, Trillions of SB, Millions of SES from Argon event alone and not long ago and people were hoarding for next gear patch. Economy was broken as heck that you could buy anything really cheap.

    So, you got all those mats, by simply doing events or buy them from hands of others because simple everyone could easily farm a lot. Too many mats was flooded to NA for community and there was and still there is whining.

    Now, it is a very good opportunity for EME to fix the problem of players with hoards of mats. And some of you ARE CRYING and attacking others because of the mats which were hoarded from broken events.

    If anything we should be looking forward to this, this brings back the line between pro players and focused players with event runners that get +15 and think they can be toxic to anyone in game or forums.

    So I stand with my stance with GREED only reason for recent crying threads.

    @Spacecats @Denommenator @seandynamite @Halrath

    Grinding and fair distribute of mats and well planned events with balanced loots and clearing the line of pro players and casual players won't kill the game, it revives Tera. So don't give in please, and keep this ratio, don't buff anything or again we miss this opportunity and things will go downward again.

    Some people have urge to say something even though they have no clue what are they talking about.

    Imagine if you deposit 100$ to the bank, and 5 minutes after that they tell you it's now worth 10$...... still don't get it?

    Aaaaand-Its-Gone.jpg
  • LYC14LYC14 ✭✭✭
    Frankly speaking, I believe this is an error in judgement on EME side, by not equating the tokens obtained from dismantling enchanting mats to tokens cost to purchase these enchanting mats. Keeping KTERA' s token shop costs only serves to devalue players' current enchanting mats unfairly, which will cause bitterness and animosity towards EME. I predict that a sizable portion of the community may be outraged and so angry that they quit TERA after seeing how their enchanting mats had their value drastically decreased for no good cause. Moreover, those players who did not watch the stream or read forum posts may suffer a massive shock as they get screwed over by the horrible exchange rates of enchanting mats when the patch kicks in, causing them to leave TERA, which is something we all don't want to see happening.
  • Error12345Error12345 ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    I see you are still arguing with 'no life' @ElinUsagi @LesbianVi @Equitas @StevenAnthony who simply can't stand people having lots of mats in their possession.As salty as it gets,I am not a man who interested in any of their endless dramas.They can say whatever in their mind but in long terms I hope TERA screwed them well from having the urge and desire to play the game.

    We all know that Enmasse is trying to reset the economy in NA so that all the previous exploitation may comes to an end.To be frank,I have enough resources to make myself a top tier player and all my 15 alts are now in misery hands.But you wont be seeing me hanging in HW as I still be making progress in the game.If you do think that all these fusses were all because of my greed,you must be a very poor person in game.

    By all means,I will not waste too much time on you and I will never spend all day playing TERA.There are chores to be done,things to be taken care of,bills to be payed instead of listening to your mindless thoughts over a dying virtual game.I am a casual who plays with his free time simply to bring joys to himself not because of you.

    Don't bother to re-tag since this will be my last response to those dumb kids wasting their lives on the forum/game.It's their own responsibility to grow a ball and start having a meaningful life.

    Oh and..TERA is not the only game out there that you can play.If it doesn't suit you well,let it go.

    Edited:I have to add @StevenAnthony on the list 'cause he is a trouble-maker who wasted too much time trolling other posts.
  • DvsvDvsv ✭✭✭✭
    @LesbianVi, i think EME should wipe server's database every 6 months.
    Just look how great it will be!

    *No more hoarding mats from previous patch;
    *No more BIS +15 on day one, ppl will need to "work hard" for their gear!
    *Ppl will run Tera for its great creative and fun content instead of afking on HW!
    *There will be things to (re)do every 6 months!
    * No need for BHS to put money on real content, EME can just push a button!
    * This will fix every problem caused by Mongos and OP events, think about a pristine economy every 6 month, cuz we all know that virtual seasonal commodities's price is so much more valuable than our real time!
    * We all gonna "get gud" on this game killing IOD BAMs 10201021x and running 3~4 star dungeons 6 Hrs a day (cuz HM reward will be garbage as always!). I mean, it's so hard to kill that Naga and Iron Giant, only Tera gods can achieve that!
    * And ofc, ppl will return in droves and they'll be very happy to se they lost everything, but who cares? They wanna run the 2x new reskinned dungeons 10000x!

    But ofc, we can p2w our way to the top. Better yet, we can p2w our full +15 gear on day one and post here on eme forums how ppl only want easy stuff and how Mongos ruined our profits!!!

    That's the logic from a small but very vocal minority here on this forum. Let's just see who EME gonna listen this time...
  • Error12345 wrote: »
    I see you are still arguing with 'no life' @ElinUsagi @LesbianVi @Equitas who simply can't stand people having lots of mats in their possession.As salty as it gets,I am not a man who interested in any of their endless dramas.They can say whatever in their mind but in long terms I hope TERA screwed them well from having the urge and desire to play the game.

    We all know that Enmasse is trying to reset the economy in NA so that all the previous exploitation may comes to an end.To be frank,I have enough resources to make myself a top tier player and all my 15 alts are now in misery hands.But you wont be seeing me hanging in HW as I still be making progress in the game.If you do think that all these fusses were all because of my greed,you must be a very poor person in game.

    By all means,I will not waste too much time on you and I will never spend all day playing TERA.There are chores to be done,things to be taken care of,bills to be payed instead of listening to your mindless thoughts over a dying virtual game.I am a casual who plays with his free time simply to bring joys to himself not because of you.

    Don't bother to re-tag since this will be my last response to those dumb kids wasting their lives on the forum/game.It's their own responsibility to grow a ball and start having a meaningful life.

    Oh and..TERA is not the only game out there that you can play.If it doesn't suit you well,let it go.

    Misery = poor

  • DvsvDvsv ✭✭✭✭
    Tbh, i think EME should wipe server's database every 6 months.
    just look how great it will be!

    *No more hoarding mats from previous patch;
    *No more BIS +15 on day one, ppl will need to "work hard" for their gear!
    *Ppl will run Tera for its great creative and fun content instead of afking on HW!
    *There will be things to (re)do every 6 months!
    * No need for BHS to put money on real content, EME can just push a button!
    * This will fix every problem caused by Mongos and OP events, think about a pristine economy every 6 month, cuz we all know that virtual seasonal commodities's price is so much more valuable than our real time!
    * We all gonna "get gud" on this game killing IOD BAMs 10201021x and running 3~4 star dungeons 6 Hrs a day (cuz HM reward will be garbage as always!). I mean, it's so hard to kill that Naga and Iron Giant, only Tera gods can achieve that!
    * And ofc, ppl will return in droves and they'll be very happy to se they lost everything, but who cares? They wanna run the 2x new reskinned dungeons 10000x!

    But ofc, we can p2w our way to the top. Better yet, we can p2w our full +15 gear on day one and post here on eme forums how ppl only want easy stuff and how Mongos ruined our profits!!!

    That's the logic from a small but very vocal minority here on this forum. Let's just see who EME gonna listen this time...
  • YamazukiYamazuki ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    LesbianVi wrote: »
    Lets see about mats.

    Last Year: there was Kyra specifically was giving materials, many players hoarded tons of mats by running mostly SSNM which was very fast. many farmed years of mats, the whole year's economy was effected by that

    and then this year since anniversary only: We had anniversary highlights dungeons and tokens, a lot of Bonanza boxes led to a lotta MWA, SB, MES, SES, a lotttttttttttttttttttttt. Feedstock a bit too,

    Then again summer festival, bonanza boxes in the shop, again many farmed those alone for mats, again lots of MWA, SB, MES, SES and a bit of feedstock

    Before that there were crabs, a lotta feedstock, lots of feedstock, too many feedstock. you could also buy lots of those mats as they cheap as heck because they were flooded.

    Then Argon event, ignore other small event and focus on this one. Billions of feedstock, Trillions of SB, Millions of SES from Argon event alone and not long ago and people were hoarding for next gear patch. Economy was broken as heck that you could buy anything really cheap.

    So, you got all those mats, by simply doing events or buy them from hands of others because simple everyone could easily farm a lot. Too many mats was flooded to NA for community and there was and still there is whining.

    Now, it is a very good opportunity for EME to fix the problem of players with hoards of mats. And some of you ARE CRYING and attacking others because of the mats which were hoarded from broken events.

    If anything we should be looking forward to this, this brings back the line between pro players and focused players with event runners that get +15 and think they can be toxic to anyone in game or forums.

    So I stand with my stance with GREED only reason for recent crying threads.

    @Spacecats @Denommenator @seandynamite @Halrath

    Grinding and fair distribute of mats and well planned events with balanced loots and clearing the line of pro players and casual players won't kill the game, it revives Tera. So don't give in please, and keep this ratio, don't buff anything or again we miss this opportunity and things will go downward again.

    Some people have urge to say something even though they have no clue what are they talking about.

    Imagine if you deposit 100$ to the bank, and 5 minutes after that they tell you it's now worth 10$...... still don't get it?

    that is true, cause 99$ of that money was given to you by EME, so you get 10$ for the 1$ you farmed. still don't you get it?

    The average person didn't get much out of these events. Too many people deluded themselves into thinking it's normal for people to skip sleep for 3~4 days to farm out an event while being on 5+ accounts at the same time too. That isn't normal, and sitting on billions+ gold in mats is not normal either, and these very people sitting on all these materials aren't even complaining because they'll forever always be ahead. In an attempt to reduce their "head start" you have to mess with everyone else. There is no such thing, and never will be such a thing, as average and hard core being equal. Forcing a bit of a restart doesn't magically make the average catch up to hard core players. These people will still get the new best gear in a week, we can all stop pretending these rates will do anything to them.

    You've already stated you yourself aren't loaded with gold or mats, so you can stop pretending everyone is loaded when you yourself aren't. Only a minority are, but they always will be, it's far too late to do anything about it.
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