Why don't just change CS gates to walls ?

ElinLove · June 2017

Tenshi1 wrote: »

IMO if they're gonna buff the gates, they should make the end-climbing animation quicker. That always irks me.

I mean I know they're TRYING to make it more realistic to you actually getting over a ladder, but if you're being shot and stunned and die on that ladder, something needs to change

that would make ladders require like 5-1-5 defense at least, keeping rest the same. I mean I agree on open world and dungeons, but on CS it would be just too easy to sneak inside, unless you could knock people down on ladder all the way to bottom. 3 people may have difficulties holding a 20 people rush on ladder under normal situation, let alone quicker animation on climb.

Tenshi1 · June 2017

ElinLove wrote: »

Tenshi1 wrote: »

IMO if they're gonna buff the gates, they should make the end-climbing animation quicker. That always irks me.

I mean I know they're TRYING to make it more realistic to you actually getting over a ladder, but if you're being shot and stunned and die on that ladder, something needs to change

that would make ladders require like 5-1-5 defense at least, keeping rest the same. I mean I agree on open world and dungeons, but on CS it would be just too easy to sneak inside, unless you could knock people down on ladder all the way to bottom. 3 people may have difficulties holding a 20 people rush on ladder under normal situation, let alone quicker animation on climb.

I guess that's true.

It's just annoying

JasonTERA · October 2017

Oops..I think my original comment has been removed due to too many edit of typos...let me try to type it again.

I don't like to compare KTERA and NA TERA, but for this issue, I would like to point out how KTERA CS was(and is) going on. Basically, all the KTERA patches come to NA TERA, and most of the patches are based on KTERA player's play style, not NA-localized patches based on our play style.
And I still play KTERA quite often so this comparison is not that wrong.

In KTERA, when people get in CS match, the first thing they do is "inspecting" each other. When they find a player(s) with PVE or [filtered] crystals, people notice their name in raid chat, and people will kick those people in 10-20 sec, really quickly. And they will get in-progress members before the match begins, or as soon as the match begins.

And KTERA leader's order is very clear. They normally organize their raid according to the role. and orders like;

Party 1 do XXX, Party 2 do YYY, all others do ZZZ.
Same thing in the middle of the match. Party 1 go Left Ladder, others focus inner gate..something like this.

It is not like "3-1-3 inner, cap mid, go pvp" who are in 3-1-3 and who else go outside for pvp? This unclear order is one of the things that CS goes bad.
And sometimes, leader asks Powerful vyrsks for their team in order to break the gates quickly when they will not focus on pvp (powerful vyrsks still work in PVP somewhat).

Ok, well, so the match begins. In KTERA, people mostly follow leader's order. Of course, sometimes, they also have some retards who do not follow the order. If it happens, all other people start blaming the retards and [filtered] talk to them and, eventually, kick the retards in next round. Sometimes, people post those retards' name with the evidence(screenshot) of how they did in CS on Inven forum. Inven is not the official KTERA forum. and there is no restriction to call out player's name due to their fault. So all pleyers are kind of being forced to follow the order. Well, I would say this is kind of Korean culture, and I am not saying whether it is right thing to do or too harsh for players as they are forced to follow.

Anyway, so before the gate HP patch in KTERA, outger gate was destroyed really quickly. Oftenly, it is destroyed as soon as(or even before) the defending team reaches to the outer gate for PVP. Same thing for inner gate. So the most KTERA CS game is just a battle bettwen inside and outside of the inner entrance (gate is already down) like a seige.
This is why there was a patch for the gate HP in KTERA.
But anyway, the gate HP patch came to NA TERA as usual, and now it became a little bit harder to break the gates for KTERA, but became too much harder to break it for NA TERA. WHY?

When you enter a CS match, try to inspect other members. You will definitely find at least 2-3 people who use wrong/[filtered] crystal, and will see lots of people who do not follow the leader's order at the beginning. Well, I would say it is a diferent play style, but every patch we have got is just based on KTERA playstyle.

But as other people said above, if your team has a problem with breaking the gate, there must be something wrong on your team. As long as all members have correct crystals, have an idea of their role, and follow the order, there will be no problem for, at least, breaking the gate.

GlitchyTrash · October 2017

The gates just got rebuffed back to their original state, this is how it was before the whole meta of "Zerg the gates and burn them under 3:30". Raids just don't want to realize that getting mid and using mid sieges like the old days is actually good.

kknaex · October 2017

JasonTERA wrote: »

Oops..I think my original comment has been removed due to too many edit of typos...let me try to type it again.

I don't like to compare KTERA and NA TERA, but for this issue, I would like to point out how KTERA CS was(and is) going on. Basically, all the KTERA patches come to NA TERA, and most of the patches are based on KTERA player's play style, not NA-localized patches based on our play style.
And I still play KTERA quite often so this comparison is not that wrong.

In KTERA, when people get in CS match, the first thing they do is "inspecting" each other. When they find a player(s) with PVE or [filtered] crystals, people notice their name in raid chat, and people will kick those people in 10-20 sec, really quickly. And they will get in-progress members before the match begins, or as soon as the match begins.

And KTERA leader's order is very clear. They normally organize their raid according to the role. and orders like;

Party 1 do XXX, Party 2 do YYY, all others do ZZZ.
Same thing in the middle of the match. Party 1 go Left Ladder, others focus inner gate..something like this.

It is not like "3-1-3 inner, cap mid, go pvp" who are in 3-1-3 and who else go outside for pvp? This unclear order is one of the things that CS goes bad.
And sometimes, leader asks Powerful vyrsks for their team in order to break the gates quickly when they will not focus on pvp (powerful vyrsks still work in PVP somewhat).

Ok, well, so the match begins. In KTERA, people mostly follow leader's order. Of course, sometimes, they also have some retards who do not follow the order. If it happens, all other people start blaming the retards and [filtered] talk to them and, eventually, kick the retards in next round. Sometimes, people post those retards' name with the evidence(screenshot) of how they did in CS on Inven forum. Inven is not the official KTERA forum. and there is no restriction to call out player's name due to their fault. So all pleyers are kind of being forced to follow the order. Well, I would say this is kind of Korean culture, and I am not saying whether it is right thing to do or too harsh for players as they are forced to follow.

Anyway, so before the gate HP patch in KTERA, outger gate was destroyed really quickly. Oftenly, it is destroyed as soon as(or even before) the defending team reaches to the outer gate for PVP. Same thing for inner gate. So the most KTERA CS game is just a battle bettwen inside and outside of the inner entrance (gate is already down) like a seige.
This is why there was a patch for the gate HP in KTERA.
But anyway, the gate HP patch came to NA TERA as usual, and now it became a little bit harder to break the gates for KTERA, but became too much harder to break it for NA TERA. WHY?

When you enter a CS match, try to inspect other members. You will definitely find at least 2-3 people who use wrong/[filtered] crystal, and will see lots of people who do not follow the leader's order at the beginning. Well, I would say it is a diferent play style, but every patch we have got is just based on KTERA playstyle.

But as other people said above, if your team has a problem with breaking the gate, there must be something wrong on your team. As long as all members have correct crystals, have an idea of their role, and follow the order, there will be no problem for, at least, breaking the gate.

WOW, they r so serious in online gaming, it is efficient but calling names on an official forum like a public blacklist??? If u get into that too much, does that lose the purpose of gaming in the 1st place?

Mystletainn · October 2017

kknaex wrote: »

JasonTERA wrote: »

Oops..I think my original comment has been removed due to too many edit of typos...let me try to type it again.

I don't like to compare KTERA and NA TERA, but for this issue, I would like to point out how KTERA CS was(and is) going on. Basically, all the KTERA patches come to NA TERA, and most of the patches are based on KTERA player's play style, not NA-localized patches based on our play style.
And I still play KTERA quite often so this comparison is not that wrong.

In KTERA, when people get in CS match, the first thing they do is "inspecting" each other. When they find a player(s) with PVE or [filtered] crystals, people notice their name in raid chat, and people will kick those people in 10-20 sec, really quickly. And they will get in-progress members before the match begins, or as soon as the match begins.

And KTERA leader's order is very clear. They normally organize their raid according to the role. and orders like;

Party 1 do XXX, Party 2 do YYY, all others do ZZZ.
Same thing in the middle of the match. Party 1 go Left Ladder, others focus inner gate..something like this.

It is not like "3-1-3 inner, cap mid, go pvp" who are in 3-1-3 and who else go outside for pvp? This unclear order is one of the things that CS goes bad.
And sometimes, leader asks Powerful vyrsks for their team in order to break the gates quickly when they will not focus on pvp (powerful vyrsks still work in PVP somewhat).

Ok, well, so the match begins. In KTERA, people mostly follow leader's order. Of course, sometimes, they also have some retards who do not follow the order. If it happens, all other people start blaming the retards and [filtered] talk to them and, eventually, kick the retards in next round. Sometimes, people post those retards' name with the evidence(screenshot) of how they did in CS on Inven forum. Inven is not the official KTERA forum. and there is no restriction to call out player's name due to their fault. So all pleyers are kind of being forced to follow the order. Well, I would say this is kind of Korean culture, and I am not saying whether it is right thing to do or too harsh for players as they are forced to follow.

Anyway, so before the gate HP patch in KTERA, outger gate was destroyed really quickly. Oftenly, it is destroyed as soon as(or even before) the defending team reaches to the outer gate for PVP. Same thing for inner gate. So the most KTERA CS game is just a battle bettwen inside and outside of the inner entrance (gate is already down) like a seige.
This is why there was a patch for the gate HP in KTERA.
But anyway, the gate HP patch came to NA TERA as usual, and now it became a little bit harder to break the gates for KTERA, but became too much harder to break it for NA TERA. WHY?

When you enter a CS match, try to inspect other members. You will definitely find at least 2-3 people who use wrong/[filtered] crystal, and will see lots of people who do not follow the leader's order at the beginning. Well, I would say it is a diferent play style, but every patch we have got is just based on KTERA playstyle.

But as other people said above, if your team has a problem with breaking the gate, there must be something wrong on your team. As long as all members have correct crystals, have an idea of their role, and follow the order, there will be no problem for, at least, breaking the gate.

WOW, they r so serious in online gaming, it is efficient but calling names on an official forum like a public blacklist??? If u get into that too much, does that lose the purpose of gaming in the 1st place?

Nah I wish it was like that here. I do BG for teamwork and to win. I have no need for people in there just to mess around and make the rest of us lose the battle.

MrYamaguchi · October 2017

CuteElinCat wrote: »

Seriously, there is no chance to break ig.
ig only broke twice in 10 games.
HP of the gate increased 30% to 40%.
Attacking IG was hard enough and now you just nerfed it ?????
This is so imbalanced, gate and ladder should have same difficulty.
No one is gonna really attack ig anymore.
It becomes game of ladders.
And CS becomes insanely long, and attacking side will give up and start to pvp if they cant make it.

Teams were burning outer and inner gate and getting into the Anchorstone room in under 4 minutes before the change...

Ladders should be impossible to climb against a good defending team. Impossible.

Why don't just change CS gates to walls ?

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