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BGs are dead! Spacemeows, halp!

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  • NikuroTegaNikuroTega ✭✭✭✭
    Spacecats wrote: »
    The jackpots were stopped because the rewards were balanced out for the old gear system. Now that the new materials are out there and people are dismantling and enchanting their new stuff, the TERA crew is going to wait before just blindly continuing the old system with updated rewards.

    Okay, understandable, but could you possibly pass the word to lower the ilvl requirement to at least 438-439?
  • DIONIDIONI ✭✭✭
    NikuroTega wrote: »
    Spacecats wrote: »
    The jackpots were stopped because the rewards were balanced out for the old gear system. Now that the new materials are out there and people are dismantling and enchanting their new stuff, the TERA crew is going to wait before just blindly continuing the old system with updated rewards.

    Okay, understandable, but could you possibly pass the word to lower the ilvl requirement to at least 438-439?

    Not sure if its a really good idea, 440 would be like worst (except for mana regen and stun reduction) than actual fwc gear, full +2 or +0 ilvl would be great.
  • Spacecats wrote: »
    The jackpots were stopped because the rewards were balanced out for the old gear system. Now that the new materials are out there and people are dismantling and enchanting their new stuff, the TERA crew is going to wait before just blindly continuing the old system with updated rewards.

    Jackpot list:
    Tokens (the stuff you get for dismantling feedstock)
    Emeralds or diamonds(rare)
    extra bg boxes (x3, 5)
    Bonus Item exp (if possible)
    Elemental Essence

    I think the bottom line is people will run bg's if it's worth the time. unequalized was worth it at the time because conflate was a thing and there were relatively cheap starfall mats in the shop. That gave conflate inherent worth, which was an easier set to obtain than imperator +15 but will give you an advantage in a pvp setting. Not to mention that the grind for conflate was pretty high and it was tradeable so you can sell it off for profit.

    With the collapse of the BC and KS shop, there's no real way to get BG's popular again other than having enticing rewards. The victory boxes are such a crapshoot that it's not worth the 30 minutes win/lose risk just to get a potion the majority of the time. BG's are very time consuming and daunting for new players. The rewards need to be somewhat on par with pve, or better to be worthwhile.
  • @Satchin I agree with those rewards except gems shouldn't be rare. With how quickly we can burn through diamonds, they should drop as much as scales did last patch imo.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    eiwo wrote: »
    @Satchin I agree with those rewards except gems shouldn't be rare. With how quickly we can burn through diamonds, they should drop as much as scales did last patch imo.

    You want to kill one of the few things worth to craft?

    I really dont get way people want to kill other content with rewards that are not really needed.

    Emeralds should be more than enought and if diamonds are in a jack pot then make it one of the rarer drops.
  • Why mess around with crafting if there was another way to get them? Diamond matches existed in the past I don't see the issue with that returning, with improved rates since like I said we can quickly burn through them.
  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Everything is ok.

    Tons of PvPers came back to the game because FWC is uneq.

    Please. FWC is not uneq not even in the slightest. I'm not denying that they didn't add the option for it this time around but 448, really? I'm not even into pvp and I could understand where they're coming from. Yet, you guys are still faulting the pvp people for wanted to use their crafted gears for something they enjoy doing. As said before, power hours is not a fixed to FWC or bgs.

    I have ilvl +448 and still waiting for those who said they were going to use their farmed gear on a unew FWC.

    They asure everyone that if that BG were uneq then it will be going to have lots of PvPers back into the game.

    Now you see other threads claiming the game is more dead than ever and you can see threads claiming BGs are more dead than ever.

    You got what you wanted, now what excuses you have?

    LOL are you serious? Got what they wanted after the population has decreased so much and these people have moved on? Back in those days when threads kept popping up of how "unfair" FWC because of geared pvpers dropping random noobies like flies. The biggest whiners from what I've seen are pvers who stick their nose where they didnt' give much [filtered] about. So how come those like you who were so vocal against the pvpers, can't sustain FWC by yourself? Didn't people claimed that more would join FWC if they didn't get "one shotted" by these pvpers? More like you guys got what you wanted after all the pvpers left, and each patches thereafter took pvp deeper down the rabbit hole. You want people to come back? Turn back time to when people still enjoy doing FWC even without power hours and apply these "fixes". You are holding to grudges that you sow.

    No, sorry, you cant refute my argument trying to talk about other thing.

    Several players here told UNEQ BG would bring tons of players to Tera and make pvp alive again, those who defended EQ BG were more into discussing about better rewards on BGs to keep people interested on them.

    Now, you have your UNEQ FWC, Where are those tons of players that you people promised?

    Nope. "No, no, no, you aren't allowed to talk about that." doesn't mean he didn't address your point. You have a nasty habit of doing that, trying to deflect and playing the victim complex. It's disgusting.

  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tewii wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Everything is ok.

    Tons of PvPers came back to the game because FWC is uneq.

    Please. FWC is not uneq not even in the slightest. I'm not denying that they didn't add the option for it this time around but 448, really? I'm not even into pvp and I could understand where they're coming from. Yet, you guys are still faulting the pvp people for wanted to use their crafted gears for something they enjoy doing. As said before, power hours is not a fixed to FWC or bgs.

    I have ilvl +448 and still waiting for those who said they were going to use their farmed gear on a unew FWC.

    They asure everyone that if that BG were uneq then it will be going to have lots of PvPers back into the game.

    Now you see other threads claiming the game is more dead than ever and you can see threads claiming BGs are more dead than ever.

    You got what you wanted, now what excuses you have?

    LOL are you serious? Got what they wanted after the population has decreased so much and these people have moved on? Back in those days when threads kept popping up of how "unfair" FWC because of geared pvpers dropping random noobies like flies. The biggest whiners from what I've seen are pvers who stick their nose where they didnt' give much [filtered] about. So how come those like you who were so vocal against the pvpers, can't sustain FWC by yourself? Didn't people claimed that more would join FWC if they didn't get "one shotted" by these pvpers? More like you guys got what you wanted after all the pvpers left, and each patches thereafter took pvp deeper down the rabbit hole. You want people to come back? Turn back time to when people still enjoy doing FWC even without power hours and apply these "fixes". You are holding to grudges that you sow.

    No, sorry, you cant refute my argument trying to talk about other thing.

    Several players here told UNEQ BG would bring tons of players to Tera and make pvp alive again, those who defended EQ BG were more into discussing about better rewards on BGs to keep people interested on them.

    Now, you have your UNEQ FWC, Where are those tons of players that you people promised?

    Nope. "No, no, no, you aren't allowed to talk about that." doesn't mean he didn't address your point. You have a nasty habit of doing that, trying to deflect and playing the victim complex. It's disgusting.

    And all of that what have to do with BGs?

    You have a nasty habit of talking bs against those who dont share you point of view also, so?
  • KavyKavy
    edited October 2017
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Koikoi wrote: »
    They did this much too late.

    Edit To add:
    - Zero mana Regen now in fwc which is just odd for a mass PvP scenario imo. Either lets us use mana pots or add in a nostrum of some sort to address that.
    - Uneq is locked behind a 448 (so 449) ilvl requirement. Full +2 stormcry + full set of new PvP jewelery brings most to 446/447. It is still locked behind a PvE grindwall for most players. The ilvl needs to be lowered.

    Yes, they did and that was why I have been arguing about BHS/EME should give PvPers a real option to get geared throught BGs or PvP content same way PvErs can, this patch you can be even a solo PvE player and get BiS in less than a month from scratch but being a solo PvPer will never get you to that before the new gear arrives.

    Mana regen would be a nice addition to BGs.

    Full stormcry +2 + full set of new PvP jewellery + quatrefoil brooch + superior inners + superior circlet should help to reach the ilvl needed. For the sake of PvP content ilevel should be lowered to Frostmetal base ilvl, however I haven't dueled vs people in Frosmetal so I can't tell how much of a disadvange they have against a Stormcry player, the only thing I can tell you is, damn, a Stormcry +7 can easily done a Stormcry +4 if both have the same skills PvP wise so I expect Frostmetal be like butter and Stormcry like a hot knife against it.

    If PvEers love to grind mindlessly let them be but PvPers shouldnt be forced to do the same as PvEers to reach a competitive level, I didn't have the oportunity to see how bad or good is the EQ in this patch because BG don't pop up at all, it doesnt matter if I have what I can play with my farmed gear in BGs when no one is queving because they don't like the unfairness it was brought in this new system.

    Now the only thing that EME can do is to make rewards on BGs at least the same as mid tier dungeons have, and create a rgn jackpot for mats to help in progress your gear till Stormcry.

    Lets see what happens next month but I don't think this get better in that short amount of time.

    SPACECATS or ANYONE - PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS
    Prior to FWC changes, people only got kicked in FWC for using PvE crystals or AFK'ing.
    NOW you get kicked from premade teams because you're in eq gear.
    Was this not a possibility you thought would happen if you changed fwc like this?!
    I'm so confused.
    If FWC dies, I'm out, EQ BG's were the ONLY reason I came back to this game.

    Your move.
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Kavy wrote: »
    If FWC dies, I'm out, EQ BG's were the ONLY reason I came back to this game.


    Bye~~~~~~~~
  • NikuroTegaNikuroTega ✭✭✭✭
    Kavy wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Koikoi wrote: »
    They did this much too late.

    Edit To add:
    - Zero mana Regen now in fwc which is just odd for a mass PvP scenario imo. Either lets us use mana pots or add in a nostrum of some sort to address that.
    - Uneq is locked behind a 448 (so 449) ilvl requirement. Full +2 stormcry + full set of new PvP jewelery brings most to 446/447. It is still locked behind a PvE grindwall for most players. The ilvl needs to be lowered.

    Yes, they did and that was why I have been arguing about BHS/EME should give PvPers a real option to get geared throught BGs or PvP content same way PvErs can, this patch you can be even a solo PvE player and get BiS in less than a month from scratch but being a solo PvPer will never get you to that before the new gear arrives.

    Mana regen would be a nice addition to BGs.

    Full stormcry +2 + full set of new PvP jewellery + quatrefoil brooch + superior inners + superior circlet should help to reach the ilvl needed. For the sake of PvP content ilevel should be lowered to Frostmetal base ilvl, however I haven't dueled vs people in Frosmetal so I can't tell how much of a disadvange they have against a Stormcry player, the only thing I can tell you is, damn, a Stormcry +7 can easily done a Stormcry +4 if both have the same skills PvP wise so I expect Frostmetal be like butter and Stormcry like a hot knife against it.

    If PvEers love to grind mindlessly let them be but PvPers shouldnt be forced to do the same as PvEers to reach a competitive level, I didn't have the oportunity to see how bad or good is the EQ in this patch because BG don't pop up at all, it doesnt matter if I have what I can play with my farmed gear in BGs when no one is queving because they don't like the unfairness it was brought in this new system.

    Now the only thing that EME can do is to make rewards on BGs at least the same as mid tier dungeons have, and create a rgn jackpot for mats to help in progress your gear till Stormcry.

    Lets see what happens next month but I don't think this get better in that short amount of time.

    SPACECATS or ANYONE - PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS
    Prior to FWC changes, people only got kicked in FWC for using PvE crystals or AFK'ing.
    NOW you get kicked from premade teams because you're in eq gear.
    Was this not a possibility you thought would happen if you changed fwc like this?!
    I'm so confused.
    If FWC dies, I'm out, EQ BG's were the ONLY reason I came back to this game.

    Your move.

    Hmm, I have yet to see someone get kicked for having EQ gear. o-o

    I've seen people with pve crystals or who feed/troll/afk get kicked, but that's about it. :open_mouth:
  • Hey um... there has been a constant FWC pop daily since this patch has released. The main power hours are highlighted in this discord that was created by a sorc on MT. https://discord.gg/vXj45fu here is the discord and BGS pop almost every 5 minutes if it is their power hour.
  • ElyiessElyiess ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    > @Spacecats said:
    > The jackpots were stopped because the rewards were balanced out for the old gear system. Now that the new materials are out there and people are dismantling and enchanting their new stuff, the TERA crew is going to wait before just blindly continuing the old system with updated rewards.

    You don't need more rewards just make ilvl for unequalized atleast frostmetal +7 so like 439-442 and you will get que pops all day as fwc gives alot of mats RN
  • KoikoiKoikoi ✭✭✭
    ManamiC wrote: »
    Hey um... there has been a constant FWC pop daily since this patch has released. The main power hours are highlighted in this discord that was created by a sorc on MT. https://discord.gg/vXj45fu here is the discord and BGS pop almost every 5 minutes if it is their power hour.

    We shouldn't need a third-party disocrd to make BG's pop.

    GM's on this game are very aware of the problem and are just sitting here mute. We have 2 weeks til November when they are supposedly going to do something.

    Just do SOMETHING for us now.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Koikoi wrote: »
    ManamiC wrote: »
    Hey um... there has been a constant FWC pop daily since this patch has released. The main power hours are highlighted in this discord that was created by a sorc on MT. https://discord.gg/vXj45fu here is the discord and BGS pop almost every 5 minutes if it is their power hour.

    We shouldn't need a third-party disocrd to make BG's pop.

    GM's on this game are very aware of the problem and are just sitting here mute. We have 2 weeks til November when they are supposedly going to do something.

    Just do SOMETHING for us now.

    Yes, you are completly right.

    It is important for players to be that interested on the game making that kind of groups to enjoy togheter the content but it should be EME staff the one to take the iniciative on these things.
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