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  • CorviReiCorviRei ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    CorviRei wrote: »
    biboy24 wrote: »
    so let ask EME or Anyone here. is it Really 60% success rate if you fail 3 out of 4 tries? somethings wrong with Tera's math LOL

    I don't think you understand math, specifically probabilities..

    (0.60)*(0.63)*(0.66)*(0.69) = 0.1721

    I'm not sure what you just calculated...

    That would be the success rate, going up by 3% every time there's a failure.

    Why are they being multiplied? :thonking:

    0.1721 is the chance of getting four consecutive successful enchants in a row. Except the success rate won't go up by 3% if you succeed so...nani?
  • 576JWJ75WP576JWJ75WP ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    We can argue that gearing up with the new system is hard or easy, but I think the main problem here is the lack of actual game content.

    We keep grinding and gearing up for absolutely no reason but to stroke our e-peen whenever our iLvl goes up. On top of that, we will replace them with another set of gear in a few months anyway.

    The lack of game content is a problem, because the devs are just making the gearing up part the actual core gameplay.

    TERA was known for its cool combat, dungeons, and PvP. But now all those things are just a side content to the actual core gameplay, which is gearing up endlessly...
  • PixelatorPixelator ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    CorviRei wrote: »
    CorviRei wrote: »
    biboy24 wrote: »
    so let ask EME or Anyone here. is it Really 60% success rate if you fail 3 out of 4 tries? somethings wrong with Tera's math LOL

    I don't think you understand math, specifically probabilities..

    (0.60)*(0.63)*(0.66)*(0.69) = 0.1721

    I'm not sure what you just calculated...

    That would be the success rate, going up by 3% every time there's a failure.

    Why are they being multiplied? :thonking:

    0.1721 is the chance of getting four consecutive successful enchants in a row. Except the success rate won't go up by 3% if you succeed so...nani?
    No child left behind, or should I say, no tera players left behind.
  • Arwen wrote: »
    CornishRex wrote:

    I could solo high tier bams as well if they didn't move around so much, for those I just party up personally. With a keen mote I get them in 7 sec.

    Which is what i did, with a bit of luck. Fortunately not everyone is an a...ole like Cassandra, and no, he wasn't being constructive at all. I don't need low tier bams as basilisks, i need the ones that can help me upgrade my frost gear to stormcry. I wond' do it killing basilisks. I would rather do dungeons for that.

    ......................you can dismantes low flood mats to tokens and later gets unknow liqui, metals, ash, devices, etc
    only hight tier boxes ( from high tier bams ) can gave this mats ( and dimensional frgaments for jewerye) but do it with priest without firends is realy the hard way.
  • BorsucBorsuc ✭✭✭
    Xithan wrote: »
    I don't think you understand math, specifically probabilities..

    (0.60)*(0.63)*(0.66)*(0.69) = 0.1721

    Cassandra is correct. You dont understand math. Each time you hit "enchant" you have a 60% chance to succeed. That 60% chance is reset each time. Its not a cumulative chance.
    "You don't understand math" while both of you are completely wrong about it. Classic.

    FYI, you've calculated the chance to enchant 4 times in a row with 60%, 63%, 66% and 69% probability on each respectively, which makes no sense. To calculate the chance to fail 3 times in a row:

    (1-0.6)*(1-0.63)*(1-0.66)

    Which is 5% and is not as small as you may think. 5% means 1 out of 20 people will experience this. If TERA has 2000 players that means 100 players will experience 3 failures in a row.
  • TankyHealerTankyHealer ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    CornishRex wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    bunch of stuff about not liking IoD

    Get Dps Crystals, roll your weapon and armor with a second set of rolls, (maybe your hands, but meh probably not needed,) and change your glyphs.

    There is absolutely zero reason a twistshard+0 priest can't kill basilisks, orisks, or ovoliths in the same time as any other dps (valk and war will clearly be faster.) You don't understand why they don't give you some kind of buff? They DID give mystic and priest a solo dps buff. Killing the ones that pays take hours? It might take an hour to do the 16 low tier IoD vanguards. At max. On a priest.

    I think you haven't tried soloing before.

    (0.60)*(0.63)*(0.66)*(0.69) = 0.1721

    Everything you wrote is elementary useless school teaching.
    Do you think that if I'm a priest I'm that stupid/noob to not know that i can dps too?
    Yesterday i did changed my glyps to dps, i did changed my crystals and zyrks, i did changed my skills on the second skillbar to can properly dps.
    I did used dps pots such as lamb bulgogi and bravery potions etc, more of that being a healer i can buff myself so add that to the list too, more even, i can triple nemesis to endurance debuff and energy star to gain more dps.
    EVEN SO, IT TOOK ME ONE HOUR AND 25 MINUTES TO KILL 10 BAMS! AND THERE ARE 16 VANGUARDS, 10 BAMS EACH!
    So please keep the stupid considerations for yourself. There is no buffs for either mystic or priest on the Island of Down that can help us kill at the same pace as a dps. I don't have 48 hours a day to stay and stupidly farm bams. Do you?
    I went in party with an archer half way through my vanguard quests and each skill was a kill, which took us around 30 minutes to finish all the vanguards, though we had to kill double the amount of bams, being in 2.
    Again, if you don't have nothing constructive to say, don't say anything at all.

    I kill 160 mid tier bams as priest in one hour. We got the buff 1 year ago and its pretty easy, I must say I was surprised. At most it takes me 30 sec to kill a teralith, at best 4 sec with a keen mote (and they drop at a considerate amount so it's not that bad. That guy is being constructive as hell tho, you're just bad at dpsing as a priest I guess.
    Unless you have like 300 ping I don't think you should be struggling so hard.
    I could solo high tier bams as well if they didn't move around so much, for those I just party up personally. With a keen mote I get them in 7 sec.

    Solo your high tier bams too. A Naga at most takes 20 seconds and high record of 5 sec (with keen and dragon proc at the right time with infinite final reprisals), a hydrath is about 8 to 30 sec. For giants... well you just don't do giants as a priest lol.

    Edit: another tip, slap on a slaying crystal
  • MeowmewMeowmew ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Can confirm slaying IoD/Ghilli is pretty fast on priest. I still hate it and rarely do it (its been maybe three patches since I've touched IoD on a healer) but it's still fast and there's pretty much no risk since you can always heal/cleanse yourself if you need to.
  • misleading for frostmetal and stormcry:
    at max gear exp, the caps for frostmetal is base%+30%
    - so 60% you can still fail, it will add a perm 63%, then you grind full exp again to get another 30%
    - rinse/repeat until you get 100%

    stormcry gear exp adds 15% each time, so base%+15%
    -fail enchant
    -grind exp
    -repeat until 100%
  • HaloistHaloist ✭✭✭
    misleading for frostmetal and stormcry:
    at max gear exp, the caps for frostmetal is base%+30%
    - so 60% you can still fail, it will add a perm 63%, then you grind full exp again to get another 30%
    - rinse/repeat until you get 100%

    stormcry gear exp adds 15% each time, so base%+15%
    -fail enchant
    -grind exp
    -repeat until 100%

    Dafuq???
  • Haloist wrote: »
    misleading for frostmetal and stormcry:
    at max gear exp, the caps for frostmetal is base%+30%
    - so 60% you can still fail, it will add a perm 63%, then you grind full exp again to get another 30%
    - rinse/repeat until you get 100%

    stormcry gear exp adds 15% each time, so base%+15%
    -fail enchant
    -grind exp
    -repeat until 100%

    Dafuq???

    Waaaaat>?
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Arwen wrote: »
    Which is what i did, with a bit of luck. Fortunately not everyone is an a...ole like Cassandra, and no, he wasn't being constructive at all. I don't need low tier bams as basilisks, i need the ones that can help me upgrade my frost gear to stormcry. I wond' do it killing basilisks. I would rather do dungeons for that.

    You can call me whatever you want, the point is that priest and mystic can solo, you just need practice. Last patch my misery+12 healers could solo high tier bams, not in 10-20 seconds like brawler, warrior, valk, or archer, but each bam could be done as a healer in 45 sec-1 min easily. Less with a keen mote. They did not buff them so much that it now takes 9 minutes to kill each high tier bam on a healer. So you can take your rage and direct it at yourself.

    (And again, you specifically mentioned that you needed golden talents in your post. I even quoted it, because I knew you would say "hurr durr priest is hard, no i meant high tier bams hurr durr.")
    wich made me gain a considerable amount of golden talents which otherwise i wouldn't have done alone

    When someone says "you might be doing it wrong," your first response shouldn't be to get triggered, ask for a safe space, and blame them. If it's taking you 9 minutes to kill a Naga, the problem is with you.
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    CorviRei wrote: »
    Why are they being multiplied? :thonking:

    0.1721 is the chance of getting four consecutive successful enchants in a row. Except the success rate won't go up by 3% if you succeed so...nani?

    It was just an example to show OP that his way of thinking is flawed.

    .6^4 = 0.1296

    Happy?
  • No, the internet will never be happy with anything anybody says.
  • FoolishTruthsFoolishTruths ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    CornishRex wrote: »
    I kill 160 mid tier bams as priest in one hour. We got the buff 1 year ago and its pretty easy, I must say I was surprised. At most it takes me 30 sec to kill a teralith, at best 4 sec with a keen mote (and they drop at a considerate amount so it's not that bad.

    I don't know what class you're playing but it's not a priest at that rate. I solo a mid-tier bam as ninja in 1 minute. It takes me 2 seconds with a keen mote (which drops once every 30 bams killed ffs) so I think it'd be pretty bad for a priest. You on the other hand most likely have some +9 frostmetal or stormcry cuz with Twistshard it's pretty damn hard. If you want to talk DPS, I can manage around 1m/sec with only a major prime bottle (no root beers or lamb bulgogi, etc.).
  • Arwen wrote: »
    Being a priest this is the worst nightmare ever. I was lucky enough to find a couple of nice ppl on the past two days to do IoD with me wich made me gain a considerable amount of golden talents which otherwise i wouldn't have done alone, but usually everyone would find an excuse to not party for Iod and i totally undertand why.
    Why would anyone spend double the amount of time to kill bams, when they can just solo fast and move on to do something else? If I were a dps i would do the same probably. Having to kill double the amount of bams is just stupid. And as priest, killing the ones that pay the most it takes hours.
    Whoever thought and planned this patch probably never mained a priest, most probably hates healers (and in a special way the priest) otherwise I can't explain why they didn't came up with some kind of buff for us :/ .

    Give healers a huge dps boost while in IOD please! EZPZ
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