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Mystic Ridiculously Outplays Priest

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  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    Well priest is about party survival while mystic is party dps

    Dumb comparison, both classes should be balanced regarding both of these facets.
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    most mystics just give mp with aura and forget about using the mp recovery skill after corruption ring while priest you just move around and release when charged,

    ya so lets balance around players that do nothing
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    the skill that gives endurance down debuff is a lock on with mystic, while priest is just a hit,

    Lock on is not a downside, hitscan is not an upside.
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    priest dispel skill is ranged while mystic is close quarter.

    Plague is slower, susceptible to stagger and is a lock on.
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    Priest has aoe cleanse while mystic is targeted

    Mystics have an AoE cleanse called Thrall of Life.

    Mystics cleanse is also AoE. Just lock on the people around you.
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    and cant cleanse a whole party at once (count on people picking up the motes),

    i can look at this single point and dismiss your entire post because you clearly haven't got a clue what you're talking about
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    arise for getting up people/preventing kd for some seconds.

    doesnt prevent kd. not nearly enough kd mechanics for it to be anything other than niche.
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    Kaia Shield is great for damage mitigation and can prevent knockback mech in a boss like Lilith (mystic solo heal in that dungeon is terrible)

    solohealing that is fine on a mystic. your lack of skill =/= difficulty.
  • YDE4XMGLXAYDE4XMGLXA ✭
    ouhkjlhkjgjkhgb wrote: »
    I don't understand this rivalry between Priests and Mystics.
    Both are fine, any group will accept whatever healer they find without discrimination.
    Both are very easy, I don't see the point of listing advantages and disadvantages like "lock on cleanse vs aoe cleanse" and "ranged plague vs melee regress". Healing in general is INCREDIBLY easy in this game, there is a very good reason all the e-girls play healers exclusively.

    Besides, it's literally impossible to balance both healers. If Priest had the same offensive capabilities as Mystic, Mystic would be useless. If Mystic got Kaia's Shield to compensate for Priest's increased offensive capabilities, they might as well be the same class.

    No its not fine , My main is priest ... but now I main mystic cause of how ridiculous over power it is
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    CornishRex wrote: »
    > @vkobe said:
    > we call this the karma B)
    >
    > so after 3 years of pain for mystic, it is normal than priest suffer like mystic 3 years ago B)

    See that's really stupid, even back then mystics were considered the better healer for experienced parties, and people that actually were skilled and good preferred mystics. I was told that from the moment I joined the game 2 and a half years ago.
    Now priests have been outshined by mystics ever since mystics got their revamp, however it was not a big difference and priests could still play without feeling like they should reroll to mystic.
    After the recent mystic buffs though, priests have only suffered, at one point our kaia DIDN'T EVEN WORK and I just straight up felt like quiting priest and crying in the corner because my favourite class had nothing left.
    Mystics have been good for a loooooong long while and they just keep buffing them.

    so you dont know the good old time when mystic troll people with bals in velika and the npc after the nexus to protest agains bhs, because at this time they wanted a good buff against the priest, in the old forum they post some screenshots about that and so many people threat them to report them if they continue

    it was the good old time when we were only level 60 B)

    https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/tempest-reach/topics/Calling-All-Mystics
    Ferria wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    we call this the karma B)

    so after 3 years of pain for mystic, it is normal than priest suffer like mystic 3 years ago B)

    Dude... this kinda mentality is exactly why people either leave or just can't stand players like you lol

    .


    but mystic 2014 are so happy to see a priest want to reroll mystic, because mystic is become the healer fotm B)
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    2 healing classes complaining to get buffed every other patch, this will greatly benefit me (as a tank) :)
  • DigivolveDigivolve ✭✭✭✭
    Tewii wrote: »


    Lock on is not a downside, hitscan is not an upside.


    Plague is slower, susceptible to stagger and is a lock on.

    Soooo why does it matter then if plague is a lock on?
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    CornishRex wrote: »
    > @vkobe said:
    > we call this the karma B)
    >
    > so after 3 years of pain for mystic, it is normal than priest suffer like mystic 3 years ago B)

    See that's really stupid, even back then mystics were considered the better healer for experienced parties, and people that actually were skilled and good preferred mystics. I was told that from the moment I joined the game 2 and a half years ago.
    Now priests have been outshined by mystics ever since mystics got their revamp, however it was not a big difference and priests could still play without feeling like they should reroll to mystic.
    After the recent mystic buffs though, priests have only suffered, at one point our kaia DIDN'T EVEN WORK and I just straight up felt like quiting priest and crying in the corner because my favourite class had nothing left.
    Mystics have been good for a loooooong long while and they just keep buffing them.

    so you dont know the good old time when mystic troll people with bals in velika and the npc after the nexus to protest agains bhs, because at this time they wanted a good buff against the priest, in the old forum they post some screenshots about that and so many people threat them to report them if they continue

    it was the good old time when we were only level 60 B)

    https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/tempest-reach/topics/Calling-All-Mystics
    Ferria wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    we call this the karma B)

    so after 3 years of pain for mystic, it is normal than priest suffer like mystic 3 years ago B)

    Dude... this kinda mentality is exactly why people either leave or just can't stand players like you lol

    .


    but mystic 2014 are so happy to see a priest want to reroll mystic, because mystic is become the healer fotm B)

    I absolutely have ZERO clue what you said lol
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    click on the link and you will understand B)

    it shame than Aleana stop to play tera she would be so happy to read AbstractCH post :D
  • berrymilkberrymilk ✭✭✭
    I think priest is still great but your making it sound like there absolute trash mystics do have some advantages but priest are still needed it not like they fall off the map i love then both the same lot of priest switch to mystic because they get tired of how easy it feels on priest and want to be more challenging
  • LNRXHCFA5KLNRXHCFA5K ✭
    Have you guys even played mystic to say the things you are saying? Most of you sound like you're just really jealous and feel the need to whine a lot idk

    Every class has its advantages and its difficulties and we all have to acknowlegde that

    Autotarget is not that automatic as you'd think. I dare you to make a mystic and cleanse REALLY QUICKLY your WHOLE party, specially with random placed ranged dps. Priest really outdoes mystics in that aspect

    As for CR to give mana to the party, I admit I should do it more, but I rarely do it because mostly of the time it's just too dangerous. But I also am trying to do better at this and learn more about boss patterns to make sure I can do it without getting hit

    So, before saying almost every mystic is lazy and plays alt tabbed, try to be a little understanding and let them know if you need CR if they are not giving. Since almost everyone now doesn't really need mana (except lancers, slayers and maybe a few more people), mystics sometimes just forget about it since most parties don't need mana replenishment because of Prime Potion.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tewii wrote: »
    [...]
    Mystics cleanse is also AoE. Just lock on the people around you.
    [...]

    hue that one was forced, you know it!

    As a Priest, I gotta say that yeah people do make LFGs wanting a mystic, but if you apply as a Priest it's likely to get accepted anyway, unless you're complete trash (if that even, many/most LFGs are experienced guys that just wanna run it without cancer and be it).

    Can't say my class is suck tho, but hey, I'm not a min-maxer nor will I ever care about that so as long as I see people alive even if they're getting hit, TN and ES 100% up time, and I'm not ripping my hair out doing it, I would rank it fine. That's my experience in mid tier dungeons for now, and on the very basic gear you require to even be able to IM it, so, class is fine. Maybe not in best shape anymore, but does the job well.
  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    Have you guys even played mystic to say the things you are saying? Most of you sound like you're just really jealous and feel the need to whine a lot idk

    I'm a mystic main
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    Every class has its advantages and its difficulties and we all have to acknowlegde that

    Mystic blows priest out of the water everywhere other than kaias and sustainable aoe healing
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    Autotarget is not that automatic as you'd think. I dare you to make a mystic and cleanse REALLY QUICKLY your WHOLE party, specially with random placed ranged dps. Priest really outdoes mystics in that aspect

    I can and I do. Stop sucking. Priest's limited cleanse range is deceptively small.
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    As for CR to give mana to the party, I admit I should do it more, but I rarely do it because mostly of the time it's just too dangerous.

    It's never dangerous. You take half damage during the cast, you stay out of combat and it's easy to remove yourself from whatever's hurting you just by jaunting 12m away.

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    Digivolve wrote: »
    Tewii wrote: »


    Lock on is not a downside, hitscan is not an upside.


    Plague is slower, susceptible to stagger and is a lock on.

    Soooo why does it matter then if plague is a lock on?

    because plague being a lock on is a disadvantage. endurance debuffs are not.

    one thing is incredibly sustainable and spammable
    the other is on a 45 second cooldown and missing the lockon or being too slow can and will cause party wipes [a la. vshm]

    really not that hard to construe from my post
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    Tewii wrote: »
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    Have you guys even played mystic to say the things you are saying? Most of you sound like you're just really jealous and feel the need to whine a lot idk

    I'm a mystic main
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    Every class has its advantages and its difficulties and we all have to acknowlegde that

    Mystic blows priest out of the water everywhere other than kaias and sustainable aoe healing
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    Autotarget is not that automatic as you'd think. I dare you to make a mystic and cleanse REALLY QUICKLY your WHOLE party, specially with random placed ranged dps. Priest really outdoes mystics in that aspect

    I can and I do. Stop sucking. Priest's limited cleanse range is deceptively small.
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    As for CR to give mana to the party, I admit I should do it more, but I rarely do it because mostly of the time it's just too dangerous.

    It's never dangerous. You take half damage during the cast, you stay out of combat and it's easy to remove yourself from whatever's hurting you just by jaunting 12m away.

    ---
    Digivolve wrote: »
    Tewii wrote: »


    Lock on is not a downside, hitscan is not an upside.


    Plague is slower, susceptible to stagger and is a lock on.

    Soooo why does it matter then if plague is a lock on?

    because plague being a lock on is a disadvantage. endurance debuffs are not.

    one thing is incredibly sustainable and spammable
    the other is on a 45 second cooldown and missing the lockon or being too slow can and will cause party wipes [a la. vshm]

    really not that hard to construe from my post

    I love you for writing this lmao
  • PlusFifteenPlusFifteen ✭
    The auras should always make mystics better than priests for PvE, because dungeons involve simple pattern recognition and no one should take enough damage to require priests' superior healing output. IMO this balances well with the fact that mystics get dumpstered by priests in battlegrounds since the healing output and stagger matters more.
  • ToiresToires ✭✭
    I hate when I have to play with Mystics that stand 30m away, I cant move an inch because I will lose auras buffs, and don't try to tell them that because they get all annoying. Like dude! bosses turn around sometimes and we need to be on the back wherever it is, specially for ranged classes.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    PlusFifteen wrote: »
    The auras should always make mystics better than priests for PvE, because dungeons involve simple pattern recognition and no one should take enough damage to require priests' superior healing output. IMO this balances well with the fact that mystics get dumpstered by priests in battlegrounds since the healing output and stagger matters more.

    This is where I love playing Priest: enter a really trappy match with people eating damage left to right on random normal mode dungeons.
    Sometimes you really need to babysit players... really.
    I still don't kinda understand why I like this so much but eh, I do
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