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Mystic Ridiculously Outplays Priest

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  • LegolamLegolam ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Priest is still better than Mystic in PvP.

    Outplay in PvE? What does that even mean? Both are viable classes. Not sure what there is to complain about, other than for the sake of complaining. Play whatever class you want, it doesn't matter. Making a big deal out of nothing.
  • edited October 2017
    It's almost like every mystic here is lying to themselves or has bad internet and is not under the impression that currently every mystic lock on skill is practically instant and unable to miss as long as they're not behind you. Currently mystic is the easier class to play out of the two healers. There's no longer any "challenge" to play mystic like some people here are saying.
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    LP7FMYWRR6 wrote: »
    It's almost like every mystic here is lying to themselves or has bad internet and is not under the impression that currently every mystic lock on skill is practically instant and unable to miss as long as they're not behind you. Currently mystic is the easier class to play out of the two healers. There's no longer any "challenge" to play mystic like some people here are saying.

    True that.
  • seraphinushseraphinush ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    AbstractCH wrote: »
    As a priest main, I feel quite sad and like I am being forced to reroll to mystic.
    Priest's TN debuff is only 12 seconds and is no longer stronger than mystic's. Mystic has a 21 duration instead of 12 and reduces the same amount of endurance.
    Priest's buffs are weaker than mystic's auras, because they give crit. Even with energy stars it doesn't make up for it. On top of this mystic has contagion.
    Mystic's mana regen has a shorter cd than priests, and is shorter casting time.

    The only upside to priest is their kaia's shield, but even then mystic has corruption ring. On top of all this mystic has incredibly broken ranges on cleanses, heals, and is always out of combat.

    Watching KTera videos I see literally no priests and only mystics because they are the new meta.

    Am I missing something or is mystic stupidly better than priest?
    It's true that at the start of this patch it was way catered towards Mystics than Priests . . don't worry too much changes will come o/
  • giuxgiux ✭✭
    edited October 2017
    I main priest and onestly it's a bit sad when 1/3 of rk9 lfg do write M instead of general H. It's already difficult nowadays to get into party as a healer (lot of people playing it and only one slot per party) so to see that one time a party need heals they prefer mystic only it's a bit sad.
    LNRXHCFA5K wrote: »
    As for CR to give mana to the party, I admit I should do it more, but I rarely do it because mostly of the time it's just too dangerous. But I also am trying to do better at this and learn more about boss patterns to make sure I can do it without getting hit

    So, before saying almost every mystic is lazy and plays alt tabbed, try to be a little understanding and let them know if you need CR if they are not giving. Since almost everyone now doesn't really need mana (except lancers, slayers and maybe a few more people), mystics sometimes just forget about it since most parties don't need mana replenishment because of Prime Potion.

    As a healer you should not wait for a party member to tell you to give mana. If you see they are burning mana it's your job as a healer to replenish it.
    I actually enabled the cd skill bar for the sole purpose to mana change as soon as it goes off cd, since in a party you will most of the time find a warrior/lancer/sorc/reaper that will burn mana really quickly.
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    I wonder though... when Priests get the estars buff, would people still favour Mystics over us potato priests ? Dun dun dun...
  • Ferria wrote: »
    I wonder though... when Priests get the estars buff, would people still favour Mystics over us potato priests ? Dun dun dun...

    People will still prefer mystic because giving crit will always be better than giving cdr.

    Crit is something that people can manage by just switching to power green crystals when they play with mystic, while cdr it's something that it's inbound in the gear so it's not like dps will have two set of rolls for each healer. It will be nice to have but dps classes will choose the type of rolls that allows them to be self-sufficient.

    So it mostly will not change the huge preference for mystic but probably will make priest more bearable on the eyes of lfg people.
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    giux wrote: »
    Ferria wrote: »
    I wonder though... when Priests get the estars buff, would people still favour Mystics over us potato priests ? Dun dun dun...

    People will still prefer mystic because giving crit will always be better than giving cdr.

    Crit is something that people can manage by just switching to power green crystals when they play with mystic, while cdr it's something that it's inbound in the gear so it's not like dps will have two set of rolls for each healer. It will be nice to have but dps classes will choose the type of rolls that allows them to be self-sufficient.

    So it mostly will not change the huge preference for mystic but probably will make priest more bearable on the eyes of lfg people.

    Yeah I figured as much. I main a priest though I run with my guild and friends however, when we add a mystic in, they always derp about the buffs. It really makes the meaning of a "priest" become insufficient when mystics were meant to be off-heals but now because of crits, they have everything lol

    Us priests don't have little tiny summons to buff/tank/heal us.. we rely purely on skill lmao! So yee.. still GG. But meh, that's just how it is.

    TERA LAIFU! XD
  • CornishRex wrote: »
    Personally I don't mind mystics being stronger in terms of buffs as long as it isn't a crazy difference as it is right now. Mystic/priest balance was all right in my eyes before the bugged lockons / aura and endurance debuff received buffs. Mystics were a bit better but nobody would look away from a priest.
    The cdr will be a neat bonus to estars, but as you said crit aura and contagion will always be a bit better.

    I don't mind mystic being a bit stronger but right now the problem it's that they pretty much give 10% dps gain no matter the party ability.
    I also play archer and I can see this, when running with mystics boss fight duration it's less, dps it's a lot higher with the same consumables/ player skill.

    I remember back in the day when priests used to have 4-5 buffs all stackable, that was overpowered i guess but right now could probably be a good way to balance things out.
    Ferria wrote: »
    Yeah I figured as much. I main a priest though I run with my guild and friends however, when we add a mystic in, they always derp about the buffs. It really makes the meaning of a "priest" become insufficient when mystics were meant to be off-heals but now because of crits, they have everything lol

    Us priests don't have little tiny summons to buff/tank/heal us.. we rely purely on skill lmao! So yee.. still GG. But meh, that's just how it is.

    TERA LAIFU! XD

    I always played priest and I love mastering this class and i'm for sure not switching to mystic just because it's meta right now.
    The only thing that bugs me a bit it's when I double heal with a mystic (in HH p2 for example) and they always heal before you because of course since they don't need to lock-on it they are faster, and so I feel like i'm worst then them.. (I'm talking about experienced mystics but still).
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    giux wrote: »
    CornishRex wrote: »
    Personally I don't mind mystics being stronger in terms of buffs as long as it isn't a crazy difference as it is right now. Mystic/priest balance was all right in my eyes before the bugged lockons / aura and endurance debuff received buffs. Mystics were a bit better but nobody would look away from a priest.
    The cdr will be a neat bonus to estars, but as you said crit aura and contagion will always be a bit better.

    I don't mind mystic being a bit stronger but right now the problem it's that they pretty much give 10% dps gain no matter the party ability.
    I also play archer and I can see this, when running with mystics boss fight duration it's less, dps it's a lot higher with the same consumables/ player skill.

    I remember back in the day when priests used to have 4-5 buffs all stackable, that was overpowered i guess but right now could probably be a good way to balance things out.
    Ferria wrote: »
    Yeah I figured as much. I main a priest though I run with my guild and friends however, when we add a mystic in, they always derp about the buffs. It really makes the meaning of a "priest" become insufficient when mystics were meant to be off-heals but now because of crits, they have everything lol

    Us priests don't have little tiny summons to buff/tank/heal us.. we rely purely on skill lmao! So yee.. still GG. But meh, that's just how it is.

    TERA LAIFU! XD

    I always played priest and I love mastering this class and i'm for sure not switching to mystic just because it's meta right now.
    The only thing that bugs me a bit it's when I double heal with a mystic (in HH p2 for example) and they always heal before you because of course since they don't need to lock-on it they are faster, and so I feel like i'm worst then them.. (I'm talking about experienced mystics but still).

    Yeah.. that's the depressing part. I'll never switch to mystic. I'll main my priest, I did main my mystic for just a short while but then now I grew to love my priest more and adapted to whatever we can serve on the plate, plus.. people said Priest is a EASY class.. lmao that's bull XD;;

    Mystics have it all there, priests have a simple list of skills but we need to plan properly before casting or GG party/raid.

    Don't get me wrong, I wish people would want double heal, now it's all solo because the "mystic" gives all so we priests get all.. scrub parties. But can't take away our Kaia ;w; .. I love my kaia.. it's my bae lmao xD So *high fives you* YAY PRIEST!
  • Ferria wrote: »
    It's depressing I know and mind you, the recent "buff" priests get which reduces the CDR with energy stars seems like a huge [filtered] hype but in reality, those who main priests know that it's just a psychological gimmick.

    People now only want priests for the "extra" CDR to help the party but if you had to pick, they'd always pic mystics. Sad truth.

    I know it sounds like just a half-heart attempt to balance the healing classes - I think so too, to be honest - but we have yet to see this when the change comes to NA. The buff is almost another CDR weapon roll. No other party buff, consumable, vyrsks, innerwears, and brooch buff give CDR. This is also why healers mostly roll CDR top line because you can get attack speed from other sources, but the source of CDR in-game is sparse.

    This Energy Stars buff will mean:
    - Faster buff cooldown (GS/AR, Manaboost, Fiery Rage, etc) for more usage
    - Less filler skills (eg. Brawler might not have to auto attack/Flip Kick/fill in GF after all)
    - Better skill alignment with enrage phases and faster enrage skill cooldown (more Shining Crescents?)
    - You can now stack more attack speed with less worries, knowing you would not run out of skills to use because of cooldown lock

    I'm still not sure if 5% CDR is huge enough to have an impact (which is why I said we have to see it when it comes); all the same, it will give Priests more leverage in the healing department - it's just uncertain how much leverage it would be.
  • Montblanck wrote: »
    Ferria wrote: »
    It's depressing I know and mind you, the recent "buff" priests get which reduces the CDR with energy stars seems like a huge [filtered] hype but in reality, those who main priests know that it's just a psychological gimmick.

    People now only want priests for the "extra" CDR to help the party but if you had to pick, they'd always pic mystics. Sad truth.

    I know it sounds like just a half-heart attempt to balance the healing classes - I think so too, to be honest - but we have yet to see this when the change comes to NA. The buff is almost another CDR weapon roll. No other party buff, consumable, vyrsks, innerwears, and brooch buff give CDR. This is also why healers mostly roll CDR top line because you can get attack speed from other sources, but the source of CDR in-game is sparse.

    This Energy Stars buff will mean:
    - Faster buff cooldown (GS/AR, Manaboost, Fiery Rage, etc) for more usage
    - Less filler skills (eg. Brawler might not have to auto attack/Flip Kick/fill in GF after all)
    - Better skill alignment with enrage phases and faster enrage skill cooldown (more Shining Crescents?)
    - You can now stack more attack speed with less worries, knowing you would not run out of skills to use because of cooldown lock

    I'm still not sure if 5% CDR is huge enough to have an impact (which is why I said we have to see it when it comes); all the same, it will give Priests more leverage in the healing department - it's just uncertain how much leverage it would be.

    CDR in estars will be considerably better than placebo crit considering that most class metas are rolling cdr/energetic etchings.
  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    Ferria wrote: »
    It really makes the meaning of a "priest" become insufficient when mystics were meant to be off-heals but now because of crits, they have everything lol

    Mystics are not "off-healers". An off-healer assumes they cannot function without being in a party with a main healer, and always assumes there are 2 healers per party. This isn't the case.
    Ferria wrote: »
    Us priests don't have little tiny summons to buff/tank/heal us.. we rely purely on skill lmao! So yee.. still GG. But meh, that's just how it is.

    Mystics don't have kaias, arise or sustainable AoE heals. Thralls are worthless btw.
  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    Triple nemesis overwrites Volley of curse and Energy star overwrites Titanic Wrath

    It is ridiculous as mystic's equivalents have same effect but longer duration and easier management than priest's counterparts.
  • FerriaFerria ✭✭✭
    Montblanck wrote: »
    Ferria wrote: »
    It's depressing I know and mind you, the recent "buff" priests get which reduces the CDR with energy stars seems like a huge [filtered] hype but in reality, those who main priests know that it's just a psychological gimmick.

    People now only want priests for the "extra" CDR to help the party but if you had to pick, they'd always pic mystics. Sad truth.

    I know it sounds like just a half-heart attempt to balance the healing classes - I think so too, to be honest - but we have yet to see this when the change comes to NA. The buff is almost another CDR weapon roll. No other party buff, consumable, vyrsks, innerwears, and brooch buff give CDR. This is also why healers mostly roll CDR top line because you can get attack speed from other sources, but the source of CDR in-game is sparse.

    This Energy Stars buff will mean:
    - Faster buff cooldown (GS/AR, Manaboost, Fiery Rage, etc) for more usage
    - Less filler skills (eg. Brawler might not have to auto attack/Flip Kick/fill in GF after all)
    - Better skill alignment with enrage phases and faster enrage skill cooldown (more Shining Crescents?)
    - You can now stack more attack speed with less worries, knowing you would not run out of skills to use because of cooldown lock

    I'm still not sure if 5% CDR is huge enough to have an impact (which is why I said we have to see it when it comes); all the same, it will give Priests more leverage in the healing department - it's just uncertain how much leverage it would be.

    Yeah I believe so, we'll just have to wait and see, I just wish there was a balance rather than "LFG > Mystic" kinda sad.
    Tewii wrote: »
    Ferria wrote: »
    It really makes the meaning of a "priest" become insufficient when mystics were meant to be off-heals but now because of crits, they have everything lol

    Mystics are not "off-healers". An off-healer assumes they cannot function without being in a party with a main healer, and always assumes there are 2 healers per party. This isn't the case.
    Ferria wrote: »
    Us priests don't have little tiny summons to buff/tank/heal us.. we rely purely on skill lmao! So yee.. still GG. But meh, that's just how it is.

    Mystics don't have kaias, arise or sustainable AoE heals. Thralls are worthless btw.

    What's the point of a priest which is literally useful for heals/buffs when you could just make one healing class, Mystic and be done with it? Why make another healing class which is more preferable now due to its buffs and ample amount of conveniences which can dps and heal? Even if a mystic KD's and whatnot, they have a lot of self-help to save them + your jaunt lol, so mystics should be very happy they are the preferred class now.

    I'm just looking forward to the estars update. Wonder what NA will have store for us.
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