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How are the DPS standings post patch

Just a genuine question.

I'd assume that valkyrie will still remain at the top post patch, and gunners might take the hardest hit for non KTERA servers due to talents.

I also note that highest crit factor/power setup is still mixed setups, which means that people with high crit caps will make the most out of the new system. (Looking at Sorcs, Berserkers Slayers and Ninjas who still haven't truly hit their crit cap without a mystic yet.
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  • Warrior, Valk, And Reaper stand above the crowd by miles. Every other class is actually quite close in terms of DPS
  • ^ what he said.
    I also feel like gunner is doing quite ok this patch, i’ve ran with 5ish in rk9 this patch and most of them have hit around 1.5mish~/s dps
  • I am still trying to master the Hyper Ultra New Shadow Reaping Combo without using spacebar.
  • sorcer with power, can be hit like a berzeker
  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    I would say
    S-tier Valkyrie
    A-tier Warrior,Reaper,Berserker
    B-tier Gunner,Archer,Slayer with highest ICB multiplier
    C-tier Brawler,Ninja,Sorcerer
    F-tier Slayer with lowest(usual) ICB multiplier
  • I would move gunner to C, positioning to dps is quite hard now and charging skills require you to sit still, against an immobile target, yes is strong but unrealistic, not to mention balder nerf, bombardment can be cancelled by pretty much anything, most of the damage is the arcane barrage.
  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    edited October 2017
    Khatarsis wrote: »
    I would move gunner to C, positioning to dps is quite hard now and charging skills require you to sit still, against an immobile target, yes is strong but unrealistic, not to mention balder nerf, bombardment can be cancelled by pretty much anything, most of the damage is the arcane barrage.

    I suggest to abandon bombardment and go straight to burst fire or balder when you have full willpower then enter AB-scatter-TB rotation earlier
    Reasons:
    Bombardment has very low crit chance and surprisingly low damage contribution, you must use it with keen hb 7 and probably not to glyph hastened BB to sync the crit buff.
    Arcane barrage, replenishment and scatter shot now have high willpower generation, and their damages increase too. You can charge 1100 willpower quickly like full hit bombardment.
    Hard to fully land immobile target, unexpected things do happen.
  • > @mollyya said:
    > I would say
    > S-tier Valkyrie
    > A-tier Warrior,Reaper,Berserker
    > B-tier Gunner,Archer,Slayer with highest ICB multiplier
    > C-tier Brawler,Ninja,Sorcerer
    > F-tier Slayer with lowest(usual) ICB multiplier

    Is this accurate and aren't ninjas and slayers being buffed with talent conversion passives? When is that coming to NA?
  • DigivolveDigivolve ✭✭✭✭
    Elyiess wrote: »
    > @mollyya said:
    > I would say
    > S-tier Valkyrie
    > A-tier Warrior,Reaper,Berserker
    > B-tier Gunner,Archer,Slayer with highest ICB multiplier
    > C-tier Brawler,Ninja,Sorcerer
    > F-tier Slayer with lowest(usual) ICB multiplier

    Is this accurate and aren't ninjas and slayers being buffed with talent conversion passives? When is that coming to NA?

    There is no conversion passives for ninja

  • mollyyamollyya ✭✭✭
    @Elyiess
    This is the experience based on current NA patch, the damage difference is about 5%~10% between two tiers. yes, slayer is still doing less damage than brawler if RNG is bad. With slayer's talent converting to passive, I expect 15%~20% damage increase so slayer with lowest ICB multiplier can raise to B tier, and with highest multiplier to A~S tier. I don't hear the news of BHS planning on converting ninja's talent to passive yet, unfortunately.
  • @mollyya Thank you! For the info I'll be happy to pve slayer when the patches comes then =D
  • LesbianViLesbianVi ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I know, Ninja is at bottom higher than Priest and lower than Mystic :p

    Also my ping is way higher after patch for any serious runs, but I noticed Warrior Tank make a real different when it comes to DPS for whole party after this patch, I have been having one warrior tank for years, cause I love warrior. :3
  • I was enought bored to compare the top 10 dps on each dps class at the tree bosses of RK-9 that Moongourd have, and just counting the numbres my ranking would be:
    TOP Tier- Valk, Warrior
    Tier A- Zerk, Archer
    Tier B- Reaper,Sorcerer
    Tier C- Slayer, Gunner
    LOW Tier- Ninja

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YZ2yaZ0pq1wfeDqC0TUD65d9404ONHZGEPb-df7PzT4/edit?usp=sharing
  • Glad to see Slayer is next to bottom, makes me feel less bad about my dps when I'm in a party with valks, zerks, or archers.
  • ZameD wrote: »
    I was enought bored to compare the top 10 dps on each dps class at the tree bosses of RK-9 that Moongourd have, and just counting the numbres my ranking would be:
    TOP Tier- Valk, Warrior
    Tier A- Zerk, Archer
    Tier B- Reaper,Sorcerer
    Tier C- Slayer, Gunner
    LOW Tier- Ninja

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YZ2yaZ0pq1wfeDqC0TUD65d9404ONHZGEPb-df7PzT4/edit?usp=sharing

    Of note there is that almost all of the top 10 slayer results have a high or near max ICB RNG multiplier. So it seems like slayer is currently in a position where it is even worse than ninja on your average run and C-Tier when it has good RNG.
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