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Regarding RK-9 Instance Matchmaking
RK-9
ilvl requeriment: 439
-not frostmetal +9
-not stormcry +0
If you ever use Instance Matchmaking for any dungeon, you don't have the right to kick someone just because their gear aren't as upgraded as yours.
They have met the requeriment, they are not underpowered, you're the overpowered.
Don't want rookies in your party? Make a pre-made party beforehand instead of kicking whenever you feel tired and want more dps.
Have a nice day and (try to) stop being a [filtered].
ilvl requeriment: 439
-not frostmetal +9
-not stormcry +0
If you ever use Instance Matchmaking for any dungeon, you don't have the right to kick someone just because their gear aren't as upgraded as yours.
They have met the requeriment, they are not underpowered, you're the overpowered.
Don't want rookies in your party? Make a pre-made party beforehand instead of kicking whenever you feel tired and want more dps.
Have a nice day and (try to) stop being a [filtered].
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Actually, I do have that right.
Don't want to get kicked from parties? Make a pre-made party beforehand instead of complaining you got kicked for being bad.
IM is majority rules. If 4 people decide you don't belong there, you are out of luck.
Of being a douche for doing that just because gear, indeed.
You just assumed that you only get kicked because you're bad? (triggered meme)
By the way, do you expect a rookie to play at the same level as an expert in a dungeon on your first try? Or you don't even wait to see if he can perform like that and insta-kick just because of gear?
People complain that rookie play bad at first run but forget that everyone was a rookie at the start. I believed that level of salty was pertinent to mobas...
The only thing you said that made sense, the only thing i don't commented on the post because it was obvious.
If you are a douche, I reserve the right to be a douche right back.
When I was a rookie, I made an LFG training run. I didn't try to sandbag 4 people and then come to the forum and insult them for not wanting to carry me.
So, why is it again that if 4 people decide you are not geared enough to carry your weight in the dungeon, they don't have the right to kick you? You agree it's majority rule yet still feel the one person should be considered the majority? Or didn't you know people need to agree to kick you and it's not something a single person can do?
You choose to comment on this topic and act such as one, there you have.
I don't mentioned nicknames nor insulted a specific player.
I don't tried to sandbag 4 people neither asked them to carry me, I just did what was supposed to do, use Instance Matchmaking and play, do you make a LFG training run to every new dungeon you ever play? IIRC you just used Instance Matchmaking the majority of time, in almost all of the dungeons you ever played until today.
Where on the site, forum, or ingame, is saying that you should go LFG training run on first run?
ilvl requeriment is 439, not stormcry, not "experient in this dungeon" player. If they don't want to "carry your weight in the dungeon" just make a pre-made party, Instance Matchmaking is free for everyone, where it says it can't be used by rookies?
Don't wanna to run w/ someone? kick at the start, simply.
But noo, let's be a douche and kick at last boss, so he loses the run and don't even get the opportunity to roll for the drops while we just need to re-queue.
Try to justify this type of player, the same type that probably would kick you before winning a pvp match if it was possible just to deny reward (and the lulz).
And don't say something like "they kicked you to save time, not everyone likes to run trap parties" because the solution for this is LFG and the kick was at last boss, there's a whole dungeon before that and they choose to not do it.
Die to S bomb > shield phase. Congrats you caused a wipe :^)
Watch a guide, get your gear up, and use LFG. No one is going to want to run trap teams.
You...made the topic.
Actually, I almost never use IM. And when I do use it, it only takes a couple of runs to put me off for the next few months.
Where does it say you should LFG if you want a decently geared and experienced party?
By your logic, if I were to queue for it and just afk the whole time or only do normal attacks or never use any consumables, nobody has the right to kick me because I met the first requirement and it doesn't say anywhere that I have to be a productive member of the party.
What happened to
Do you want to be insta-kicked or do you want to be given a chance? You can't have it both ways.
That'd be them giving you a chance and deciding you just don't have what it takes. And the solution to not being kicked like that is also LFG. It's not that hard a concept to grasp. Just because you joined a party, does not mean you are guaranteed a spot forever and ever. If the other 4 people decide they don't want you there, for whatever reason, they have the right to kick you. It's -that- simple. If you and the other people decide I'm a douche, you can kick me. If I and the other 3 people decide you are a deadweight, we can kick you. Get it?
1st: Do no damage based on who? The equip met the dungeons requeriments, the ones w/ stormcry that gives higher damage. Perspective.
2nd: Tank die on last boss > aggro swap > S bomb > shield phase. Wipe's fault?
[ ] Tank
[X] The one that isn't w/ stormcry
3rd: It's always about gear, because there's no "Inspect Skill" in game, only "Cleared Runs" and "View Equipment".
People kick you if you're rookie, people kick you if you're not on high-end gear, people kick you if you used the brooch active 3s too early.
-Commentary from a player that experienced a party to kick right after the Second Boss Fight the only player that didn't died the whole dungeon until now because the equips, instead of a reaper that was being ress'ed every minute on Bashymal Rise Hard Mode just because Inspecioned the wrong player.
So, you even got to actually do last boss. It's not like they used you to get to the last boss and then disposed of you. And, yes, actually it is alright for the tank to die to last boss, stormcry or not.
It's funny how you started the topic pretending you were kicked just because your gear is low and weren't even given a chance and then ended up confessing you were, in fact, given a chance, including at least one wipe on last boss, before the party decided you are holding them back. Why is it always the most outraged ones that turn out to be giant liars....
PS to your edit:
And this is why I'm a strong supporter of DPS meters and want Tera to have one.
Yea, you can just afk and be kicked automatically, that's the game saying you need to do something.
If is to be kicked anyway, i prefer to be at the start, instead of in the finale. It's something like "choosing the best from the worst opitions"
Want the full story? Ok.
I said it was at last boss, never said the fight don't started.
There's 0 inconsistency in what i said until now, next time i'll write the full story from boss 1 for someone just come in and post TL;DR.
PS to your edit:
That's the second thing i agree with you in this topic, DPS meters in-game would solve everyone's problem, and creater a bigger one probably...
Watched a video guide, looked about the dun on essential mana, as i said before, had enough gear for the dun.
Instance Matchmaking is meant to be used.
What's easier to find?
[X] A party for experienced players in LFG
[ ] A party for rookie players in LFG
There is no automatic kick for PvE.
Well, if you'd rather not run than be told you are not good enough, don't queue until you are good enough.
Let me refresh your memory:
Your first post talks about getting kicked for being undergeared. If somebody thinks your gear is not good enough, they'll kick you at the start. They won't carry you for two bosses and then decide they've had enough. OP strongly implies an instant kick which is further touched upon in your second post: Again, you don't get kicked for gear after 2 bosses and you even talk about being instakicked. Even for the first half of your 3rd post, you are still fixated on ilvl requirements and gear. It's not until about the middle of it that you first mention actually starting the run and that the party did, in fact, give you a chance and saw how you perform. In said post you make it sound like you were kicked before last boss was even touched: If that was the motive, why would they even let you try last boss? This makes no sense if they did actually let you try last boss. This implies that you did well on the 1st and 2nd boss but were then disposed of for some shady reason. In which case they wouldn't have let you touch last boss. If they did, well, then, you were kicked for underperforming there while you might have been OK before that. And, eventually, we get to the last statement where you confess to being allowed to do last boss and there was at least one wipe.
And I'm pretty sure you did this on purpose. Because "We wiped on last boss and I got kicked" doesn't make for nearly as good a sob story as "I got kicked cause I don't have stormcry" which most definitely was your stance for the first 2 posts.
Welp. Switched BG and PVE.
I'm no "spacebar" player, i searched class guides, played dungeons and battleground w/ this class, watched videos, IMO you know if you're good enough by playing the class. How you show it to a random at first sight it's up to you to say how.
IIRC i wrote it at the start.
Do you ever read what i write or jump to key points?
"do you expect a rookie to play at the same level as an expert in a dungeon on your first try? Or you don't even wait to see if he can perform like that and insta-kick just because of gear?"
Read this part again, it's a question, not an affirmative.
If that was the motive, why would they even let you try last boss? This makes no sense if they did actually let you try last boss. This implies that you did well on the 1st and 2nd boss but were then disposed of for some shady reason. In which case they wouldn't have let you touch last boss. If they did, well, then, you were kicked for underperforming there while you might have been OK before that. And, eventually, we get to the last statement where you confess to being allowed to do last boss and there was at least one wipe.
And I'm pretty sure you did this on purpose. Because "We wiped on last boss and I got kicked" doesn't make for nearly as good a sob story as "I got kicked cause I don't have stormcry" which most definitely was your stance for the first 2 posts.[/quote]
Shady reason: "Oh, a wipe, let's just check who got the lowest gear and kick"
If my dps was a problem, I would've been kicked in one of the last two bosses.
Just got a wipe because already stated above why and they decided that kicking someone would be the perfect solution.
If by chance i had the same gear as they, there would've no kick, just a retry.
The whole point is that people just throw the fault to whoever has the weakest gear, and now who performs the worse or who did the mistake that wiped the party. It's always like that and this time it was no exception, wipe wasn't dps fault, nor healer fault, still kicked the dps w/out stormcry gear thinking it would solves everything.
Once for floormatting a lot, and I was glad to go. I was in over my head on that run.
Just saying, you may just have really bad luck in IMS.
As far as IMS goes, unfortunately, whether you like it or not, Magimay is correct. If 4 people agree to kick you, there is no nothing you can do. Majority vote wins, there is no further argument needed.