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Just spent 200k trying to upgrade from frostmetal..

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  • DYLW5HFXJHDYLW5HFXJH ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Thomastic wrote: »
    Excuse me but when was it guaranteed to convert into Stormcry, and when the [filtered] did it cost 200k gold?

    There are two different topics. OP is complaining about the amount of fails it cost and didn't get SC from frost, another player brought up the topic of 100% fails.

    All I can really say OP is I hope you get used to it cause I usually fail around 5 times each time I try to upgrade in sc even max XP. Best thing to do is just pool up your cash and realize you're putting money towards something, not pass/fail.
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    I feel sad for OP because I know how this regret feels when you fail but dear,,,on this 200k you could buy recipe and save 100+ if you craft. (50 for darics, and other for emeralds/sapp). Or add a bit more and have plates too. This will save you more in future.
    Think of this. If you will want to gear another char you will need that.
    It isn't so frustrating if you spend gold only needed for enchant.
  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    Having 100% Item Level XP --IS NOT THE SAME AS-- Having 100% chance to enchant.

    Literally read the UI and to the left of the gold and mat cost is the chance to enchant.
  • Concepcion30Concepcion30 ✭✭✭
    Naru2008 wrote: »
    Unfortunately when you have 100% chance, there's always that 0.0000000000000001% chance you can fail.

    It sucks, but unfortunately, there's always that one chance, because the game rounds up on your chance percentages.

    And this person was upgrading frostmetal. The only thing you can max xp for 100% chance is Guardian and Twisthard, my frostmetal at +6 only give a 58% chance at max xp.
  • giuxgiux ✭✭
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
  • admonituadmonitu ✭✭✭
    We need to be clear when using these terms. Enchant vs upgrade. Enchant is raising the enchantment level, for example +1 to +2. Upgrade is obtaining the next tier gear - frostmetal to stormcry.
  • ArdireArdire ✭✭✭✭✭
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............
  • KarmaTheAlligatorKarmaTheAlligator ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    They said upgrade, not enchanting.
  • giuxgiux ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
    StitchedSoul wrote: »
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    I don't know instead of writing wrong info on the forum would just googling the chart be so difficult?
    But since It just so happens that my priest has frost+9 i'll screenshot for you lazy people
    BSWno5V.png

    To be noted I never attempted the upgrade and I have tera rewards 4, hence 53% success rate as stated in my previous post
  • KarmaTheAlligatorKarmaTheAlligator ✭✭✭✭✭
    giux wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
    StitchedSoul wrote: »
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    I don't know instead of writing wrong info on the forum would just googling the chart be so difficult?

    To be fair, the chart on essentialmana says the attempt costs 600 gold, not 214.
  • ArdireArdire ✭✭✭✭✭
    KarmaTheAlligator wrote: »
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    They said upgrade, not enchanting.

    ty for the correction i'm blind before 12pm
  • giuxgiux ✭✭
    KarmaTheAlligator wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
    StitchedSoul wrote: »
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    I don't know instead of writing wrong info on the forum would just googling the chart be so difficult?

    To be fair, the chart on essentialmana says the attempt costs 600 gold, not 214.

    Trusting essential mana in 2k17.
    Ardire wrote: »
    KarmaTheAlligator wrote: »
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    They said upgrade, not enchanting.

    ty for the correction i'm blind before 12pm

    No problem ^^
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