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Just spent 200k trying to upgrade from frostmetal..

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  • KarmaTheAlligatorKarmaTheAlligator ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    giux wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    I don't know instead of writing wrong info on the forum would just googling the chart be so difficult?

    To be fair, the chart on essentialmana says the attempt costs 600 gold, not 214.

    Trusting essential mana in 2k17.

    They're supposed to have the official data, especially considering the stink there was about the leaked data and all. Do you have a better alternative?
  • giux wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    I don't know instead of writing wrong info on the forum would just googling the chart be so difficult?

    To be fair, the chart on essentialmana says the attempt costs 600 gold, not 214.

    Trusting essential mana in 2k17.

    They're supposed to have the official data, especially considering the stink there was about the leaked data and all. Do you have a better alternative?

    Apparently they just ripped off lorriri's ktera chart, what a surprise.
  • CatservantCatservant ✭✭✭✭
    Since Loriri POSTED IT THERE. I don't think EM "ripped it off".

    You do know that IdioticGenius/Loriri supplies a lot of content to EM, right? SO ripping on EM is essentially saying Loriri's stuff isn't trustworthy either.
  • Catservant wrote: »
    Since Loriri POSTED IT THERE. I don't think EM "ripped it off".

    You do know that IdioticGenius/Loriri supplies a lot of content to EM, right? SO ripping on EM is essentially saying Loriri's stuff isn't trustworthy either.

    By ripped off I meant that they didn't update the values for NA, just copy-pasted the ktera values which are different.
    It's not like this charts have a copyright lol.
  • CatservantCatservant ✭✭✭✭
    giux wrote: »
    Catservant wrote: »
    Since Loriri POSTED IT THERE. I don't think EM "ripped it off".

    You do know that IdioticGenius/Loriri supplies a lot of content to EM, right? SO ripping on EM is essentially saying Loriri's stuff isn't trustworthy either.

    By ripped off I meant that they didn't update the values for NA, just copy-pasted the ktera values which are different.
    It's not like this charts have a copyright lol.

    Funny, when I went there, the guides showed the correct values...maybe we were looking at different posts.
  • giuxgiux ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Catservant wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    Catservant wrote: »
    Since Loriri POSTED IT THERE. I don't think EM "ripped it off".

    You do know that IdioticGenius/Loriri supplies a lot of content to EM, right? SO ripping on EM is essentially saying Loriri's stuff isn't trustworthy either.

    By ripped off I meant that they didn't update the values for NA, just copy-pasted the ktera values which are different.
    It's not like this charts have a copyright lol.

    Funny, when I went there, the guides showed the correct values...maybe we were looking at different posts.

    From https://essentialmana.com/gear-revamp-guide/
    0ciw43K.png
    The value it's clearly wrong.

  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    giux wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.


    You have wrong the gold needed on UPGRADE attemps.

    Then could I say the same as you did to OP "Your post is BS".
    I'm not sure I costs 1 golden daric too.
    Ardire wrote: »
    what kinda enchanting are you doing that only costs 1 golden daric wtf...............

    I don't know instead of writing wrong info on the forum would just googling the chart be so difficult?
    But since It just so happens that my priest has frost+9 i'll screenshot for you lazy people
    BSWno5V.png

    To be noted I never attempted the upgrade and I have tera rewards 4, hence 53% success rate as stated in my previous post

    And you in a lazy way make an assumption that OP bought all from broker and even if he did, the gold needed on Upgrade attemps is wrong. Its even less because the mats cost almost the same in all servers and they are cheaper than you posted.

    So yeah, I can call your post BS because you did the same to OP and you posted info that is wrong even on TR where you said you took it. Or are you the only one allowed to be that way against others?
  • edited November 2017
    giux wrote: »
    I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    Costs per try are:
    - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    - Gold for enchanting 214g.

    That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries

    Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%

    Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.

    The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%

    So yeah your post is bs.

    Thank you for this ... legit opened this post just to see if someone would do the math. Even if OP bought out everything from the broker, it still would take nowhere near 200k gold on any server.
  • > @giux said:
    > I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    > Costs per try are:
    > - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    > - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    > - Gold for enchanting 214g.
    >
    > That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    > 200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries
    >
    > Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%
    >
    > Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.
    >
    > The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    > 3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%
    >
    > So yeah your post is bs.

    I’m not on TR, economy is different. Why would i make a bs post for no reason?
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    AbstractCH wrote: »
    > @giux said:
    > I'll do a simple calculation considering TR prices, let's say you bought every material possible.
    > Costs per try are:
    > - Emeralds (1400g ea) x6
    > - Golden Daric (80g ea) x1
    > - Gold for enchanting 214g.
    >
    > That means every try you need, 1400*6+80+214 = 8694g + non-tradable mats
    > 200k / 8694 = 23,00 Tries
    >
    > Now let's talk about chances of success, chest from frost+9 to storm+0 has 22% base chance + 30% with full exp + 1/2% from tera rewards = 53-54%
    >
    > Let's assume you have 1% on tera rewards, that means 53% success the first time.
    >
    > The possibility of failing 23 consecutive times is 0%, since after the 16th try the chest would be at 100% success rate hence your post is [filtered].
    > 3% every failed attempt * 16 tries + 53% success first time = 101%
    >
    > So yeah your post is bs.

    I’m not on TR, economy is different. Why would i make a bs post for no reason?

    The question would be, what did you buy to expend 200k trying to upgrade frostmetal to stormcry?

    And what date was when you expend that amount of gold?

    In this week is almost hard to believe you expend that amount of gold since cost of mats are even lower than giux posted.

    And the only way that comes to mind would imply you haven tried to upgrade for more than 3 weeks.
  • May be he counted all pieces?
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    May be he counted all pieces?

    well, he did say that was his robe.
  • CatservantCatservant ✭✭✭✭
    giux wrote: »
    Catservant wrote: »
    giux wrote: »
    Catservant wrote: »
    Since Loriri POSTED IT THERE. I don't think EM "ripped it off".

    You do know that IdioticGenius/Loriri supplies a lot of content to EM, right? SO ripping on EM is essentially saying Loriri's stuff isn't trustworthy either.

    By ripped off I meant that they didn't update the values for NA, just copy-pasted the ktera values which are different.
    It's not like this charts have a copyright lol.

    Funny, when I went there, the guides showed the correct values...maybe we were looking at different posts.

    From https://essentialmana.com/gear-revamp-guide/
    0ciw43K.png
    The value it's clearly wrong.

    I defer to you, you are clearly right and I was wrong. I appreciate the work you did (and how kind you stayed) in correcting me.
  • Dear OP,

    I will not be like some of the people and be dramatic or mean. I know how hard gearing up in this patch is, I've spent over 100k so far trying to get my gear up there, and no, to those who will ask I am not buying mats off the broker. I simply keep failing, I'm nowhere near the Stormcry gear I just struggle to enchant. I'm low on gold and not one of the big money makers, which sucks at times. I'm sorry this happened to you, 200k is a lot of money for some players so it sucks to see it just get flushed away.

    I really hope things turn around for you, if you played on my server I'd even try to help you because I believe in helping the community out, being selfish will get me nowhere in life.
  • > @R63TFLHPYD said:
    > Dear OP,
    >
    > I will not be like some of the people and be dramatic or mean. I know how hard gearing up in this patch is, I've spent over 100k so far trying to get my gear up there, and no, to those who will ask I am not buying mats off the broker. I simply keep failing, I'm nowhere near the Stormcry gear I just struggle to enchant. I'm low on gold and not one of the big money makers, which sucks at times. I'm sorry this happened to you, 200k is a lot of money for some players so it sucks to see it just get flushed away.
    >
    > I really hope things turn around for you, if you played on my server I'd even try to help you because I believe in helping the community out, being selfish will get me nowhere in life.

    Hope you have better luck enchanting! It sucks watching all our gold go down the drain.
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