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I ASK UPON ALL PC EXPERTS, PLEASE HEED MY CALL

I call you all here today for an issue I am having.
Upon doing all I possibly could, My last resort is to ask YOU the people, the intelligent beings who might solve what I could not
Lets cut to the chase.

On my pc, with a decent cpu, and now great gpu. Tera runs at tops, 40 fps.

I recently made a whopping $520 investment into the new gtx 1070 ti gpu. In hopes that the game would run better compared to my old 1050 ti.
I was sadly dissapointed, as the game ran almost exactly the same.
Before the gpu upgrade even, I did a lot of tweaks to boost fps by doing things in the tera files and system ini etc etc.
I began to assume I MUST be bottlenecking my pc, but this can not be true. Because I saw a MASSIVE boost in fps in, overwatch, revelations, league of legends, pubg, paladins, and quite literally ALL other games i play.

My friends, what is happenning? Why am I unable to play this game that I really would like to play? Thank you for your assistance, my gratitude can not be measured.
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  • OmnomberryOmnomberry ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Youre not telling us the important part, your CPU.
    This game is CPU hungry (like most MMOs actually)

    And its old, not so GPU demanding
    My GF just got a 1050TI and running 60 fps with a i5 7500 (4 x 3.6GHz) unless with lots of ppl in Velika/HW or my Brawler pulling all mobs in LKH.
  • JerichowJerichow ✭✭✭✭
    Where are you when you get 40fps and what else is in your system? You will always get low FPS in somewhere like Highwatch if you don't lower your player character view-able count.

    Specifically what is your CPU? Tera cares far less about your graphics card than it does your CPU due to how this game is coded versus basically any other game. The reason you see such massive improvements in the other games is because they have a MUCH lower CPU load than Tera does, so most of the actual number crunching and 'heavy lifting' is done by your GPU in those games, hence the results you got.

    Also are you at the max settings preset? Because I've noticed in Tera that even with the best systems the highest presets give god-awful frame rates. I've turned mine down to preset 5 with a few adjusted settings like max 30 characters, medium character and ability effects detail in dungeons and I have a very smooth 50+ framerate most of the time, and quite honestly, the game hardly looks any different than at max settings.

    As for the system I run, I would think it's pretty conservative:

    Ryzen 5 1600 (not OC'd)
    16GB DDR4 2400Mhz (2x 8GB)
    MSI RX 480 4GB (also not OC'd)
    Tera is installed on a Samsung 850 EVO SSD

    My options consist of:

    Preset 5
    Effects Level 3
    Adjust Texture Resolution 1

    Character Quality:
    PC view distance 4
    Max Chars 30
    Character 3
    Shadow 2

    Background Quality:
    5
    3
    2

    Effects:
    2
    2
    3
    2
    1
    Travel Effects *NOT* checked

    Other:
    1
    1
    Low Performance Dimming *NOT* checked

    Brightness:
    38%

    If you want, go ahead and give those settings a shot and let us know if things improved for you.
  • voidyvoidy ✭✭✭✭✭
    Omnomberry wrote: »
    Youre not telling us the important part, your CPU.
    This game is CPU hungry (like most MMOs actually)

    And its old, not so GPU demanding
    My GF just got a 1050TI and running 60 fps with a i5 7500 (4 x 3.6GHz) unless with lots of ppl in Velika/HW or my Brawler pulling all mobs in LKH.

    This, this, this. GPU barely makes a difference in this game unless you're upgrading from dirt to brand spanking new tech.
    When I started playing tera, I had an AMD CPU that I got on sale and most dungeons ran like absolute trash. When I upgraded a couple of years later to a really basic intel i5 CPU, the improvement was so drastic that it felt like I was playing a totally different game.
  • I have a fx 8230 right now, this cpu should easily be abnle to run tera
  • Also, Why is tera the only game so cpu intense?
    Revelations saw a dramatic increase in fps from my gpu upgrade, and that game is arguably more open-world with more to render.
  • Because currently Tera only runs on a single core on your CPU. Blame the code.
  • Tera only uses 2 cpu threads (plus part of a third, but that's mainly overhead) so if they're maxed out already your GPU will make practically no difference, as it's waiting for your cpu to finish before it can do anything. Tera also has always disliked AMD processors for some reason, sorry to say. The only hardware solution would be a large cpu overclock or a new processor if you're that concerned about tera. Or search for and follow one of the dozens (hundreds?) of tera optimization guides out there.
  • DelusoDeluso ✭✭✭✭
    TERA is pretty much old game coded to use 1 CPU core like every other MMO's back then. As for AMD, the real reason TERA doesn't like AMD processors is due to poor performance on single core applications compared to Intel's thus making AMD's FX series considerably bad choice to run TERA. Speaking about another game, yes they are great fluid-solid FPS because they have coded very much cleaned and optimized than TERA which we still don't even have any kind of optimization, yet, even after 5 years of release.
  • 4KNTN63WET wrote: »
    I have a fx 8230 right now, this cpu should easily be abnle to run tera

    I hate to break it to you but your bottleneck is that CPU i had a AMD 8350 a while back and Tera ran like garbage this was when i had my 980Ti once i upgraded to the Intel Core i7 7700K there was a huge boost in FPS even with a 980Ti and it was not just Tera either all games got a significant boost now i run the 1080Ti and its better yet i play all my games at 4K thats why i got the 1080Ti but anything under 4K its not really worth having a 1080Ti honestly. So if you can i would just get a intel CPU you will notice a big difference out the gate i was a big AMD fan back in the days its all i would buy but since i broke down and finally tried a intel ill honestly never go back to AMD. With computer components these days you honestly get what you pay for its the way it is.
  • Honestly, as most everyone has mentioned, you have 3 real options.

    - Kill all your graphics settings, set everything to minimum and hope that it's low enough that you can get a stable amount of FPS in dungeon content.

    - Overclock your CPU, heavily. Which may not be possible or recommended depending on your computer knowledge. If you want to continue using an AMD CPU it's probably your only way, but I don't think it's worth it unless you're being CPU bottlenecked in other games too.

    - Get a high-grade intel CPU. If you want to run Tera optimally aiming for probably a 4-core with a really high base clock would be your best bet. But given you're already using an AMD CPU swapping to intel could cost you a lot of hardware replacing depending on your current setup.

    Of course there is a secret 4th and 5th option. You could learn to live with it, or play a different game other than Tera. Realistically there's probably no hardware setup that's going to let you achieve more than 30-40FPS in crowded towns and a "stable" high FPS in dungeons with certain classes unless you nuke your graphics quality to the absolute minimum.
  • KhatarsisKhatarsis ✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Bulldozer and Vishera core architectures from AMD are bad, we will leave it at that. Up until Ryzen which is really good, if you own one of those old models expect nothing of it, thought is says it has 8 cores 8 threads or 6 and 6, the cores are paired inside the processor meaning they share stuff, easier said, like 2 cars sharing a single engine, there is absolutely no point in overclocking AMD processors of said architectures, heat dissipation is massive as well as the power consumption, the small improvements in performance are not worth it by a long shot.
    As stated above Tera is a CPU hungry game so if you deal with bad coding here and a bad line of processors, AMD received a tone of flak for those processors and even law suits for false advertising, the main reason why Intel had a monopoly on the processor market until recently.
    Pretty much jump ship to Intel, my recommendation https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684I38350K-Core-i3-8350K-Processor/dp/B0759FWJDK , very fast, high base clock, easy to overclock, great value overall, it's an i3 but the new generation, you get 4 physical cores with 4 logical, instead of 2 physical and 4 logical, how it used to be.
  • Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.
  • I have an msi with Nvidia 970m gtx with an i7-6700

    At best I get 110 fps at low settings and 30fps at highest.
    Tera did seem to utilize the cpu alot more than my gpu.

    So in my opinion upgrading or investing on a better pc wont help you out much unless the cpu is top notch. Tera loves intel for some reason.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    4KNTN63WET wrote: »
    I have a fx 8230 right now, this cpu should easily be abnle to run tera

    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-AMD-FX-8320/3503vs1983

    your cpu seem old, do you think you can buy a new cpu for exemple ryzen 3 ?

    at least a battleship gaming categorie ;)
  • JerichowJerichow ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Honestly, as most everyone has mentioned, you have 3 real options.

    - Get a high-grade intel CPU. If you want to run Tera optimally aiming for probably a 4-core with a really high base clock would be your best bet. But given you're already using an AMD CPU swapping to intel could cost you a lot of hardware replacing depending on your current setup.

    Not to go full-fanboy or anything but with AMD's new Ryzen CPUs, their IPC and single-core performance is extremely comparable to Intel's now and so OP will be perfectly okay running one of them. Along with the fact that their CPU's and motherboards are cheaper, they're a good lower-cost alternative to Intel's offerings. Just make sure not to get an R3 or i3 chip, quad-cores are going to get badly out-paced by 6+ core CPUs now that both companies are supporting them (meaning games in the future are going to start using more cores, meaning quads will fall behind putting you right back in this situation sooner than later).

    I have an R5 1600 at its stock 3.2Ghz and it runs Tera perfectly fine even using an RX 480. If I pushed it to 3.8Ghz I imagine the game would run very smoothly, I just don't have the cooling for it (Node 202 doesn't have the most airflow).
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