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  • Thank you all for your responses.
    It seems like I need a cpu upgrade to run tera, which is a shame but Thats the reality I guess
    What I dont really get is everyone saying that upgraded from ___Amd processor to ___Intel processor. Wouldnt that be impossible considering motherboard chipsets? Unless you swap out for a new motherboard too.

    Seems like I need a new motherboard AND cpu, as my motherboard only supports am3+ chipset.
    Does anyone know if this game will be optimized in the any near future? Or will i be forced to have to upgrade my pc to meet this games terribly optimized game haha.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    upgrade your pc man, it not only for tera, but also for your pc in general, i dont know if your current cpu will run the next window OS

    at least get a ryzen 3 it only cost 140 $ ;)
  • JerichowJerichow ✭✭✭✭
    4KNTN63WET wrote: »
    Thank you all for your responses.
    It seems like I need a cpu upgrade to run tera, which is a shame but Thats the reality I guess
    What I dont really get is everyone saying that upgraded from ___Amd processor to ___Intel processor. Wouldnt that be impossible considering motherboard chipsets? Unless you swap out for a new motherboard too.

    Seems like I need a new motherboard AND cpu, as my motherboard only supports am3+ chipset.
    Does anyone know if this game will be optimized in the any near future? Or will i be forced to have to upgrade my pc to meet this games terribly optimized game haha.

    Yeah sorry man, AMD's FX series chips are based off of the Bulldozer architecture which is pretty unanimously agreed upon as their worst series of CPU's in the company's history. They were decent in multi-threaded tasks, but things like games that use 1-2 CPU cores/threads, the chips fall flat on their faces.

    Upgrading your CPU will pretty much always involve upgrading 3 parts at once:

    - The CPU
    - The Motherboard
    - The RAM/Memory

    This is why I say the AMD option may be better, because AMD motherboards have always been cheaper than Intel ones, and with the AMD CPU's being less too, but still very comparable in performance, Ryzen CPU's make a very good alternative if you aren't interested in absolutely [filtered]-to-the-wall max fps performance where that extra 2-3 fps is a deal-breaker or not.

    A lot of people say, "Buy Intel, it's better" because for the last 5+ years (basically since Bulldozer was introduced and was being sold by AMD) Intel has always been better than AMD in every regard. The problem is that Intel charges a veritable arm-and-leg BECAUSE of that mentality.

    Tera will likely never get updated because the game is so old and it would take basically rewriting the entire game all over again to optimize it for multi-thread support beyond 1-2 threads. And even then, if they did do that, they would likely drastically upgrade the game at the same time, so even if you were using all of the threads on your CPU, you would still be in the same problem as now.
  • If you like AMD go with a ryzen 5, maybe an x product, like 1500x, it's a pain to get a budget buy now and later regret it, and by later i mean near future.
  • DelusoDeluso ✭✭✭✭
    Does anyone here own an Ryzen to confirm how its perform for TERA? It's not that I'm doubtful of AMD's products but I'm pretty sure most of us knew that AMD's Ryzen lineup are good at multitasking while Intel's solely good in gaming. Especially the latest gen of Intel's Core series like 8th Gen Core i3-8350K which really good at single thread performance. Also, I'm not trusting the FPS counter in TERA but because even nVidia's GeForce Experience FPS counter shows different FPS than TERA's FPS/clock+ping counter. Not to mention other FPS counter programs.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2017
    Acendia wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.

    You don't need to modify/remove "those configs" on Tera to have more FPS, you just dont have a good machine.

    NHqm5Xb.png
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Acendia wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.

    You don't need to modify/remove "those configs" on Tera to have more FPS, you just dont have a good machine.

    NHqm5Xb.png

    Actually, frame rate is indeed capped at S1Engine.ini by "bSmoothFrameRate".

    If it was capped then you wont get more thant 80 fps but you can, good try thought.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Acendia wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.

    You don't need to modify/remove "those configs" on Tera to have more FPS, you just dont have a good machine.

    NHqm5Xb.png

    Actually, frame rate is indeed capped at S1Engine.ini by "bSmoothFrameRate".

    If it was capped then you wont get more thant 80 fps but you can, good try thought.

    Unsure if the value is always the same.
    Assuming 80, it will always overlap a bit.
    Can also be override by Vsync.

    There were times when I got around 100 fps but I wont bother to stay still waiting or moving to spots to get that amount.

    The thing is even with that supposed cap you can get more fps without tweeking anything. If you cant then is becuase you dont have a good machine.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Acendia wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.

    You don't need to modify/remove "those configs" on Tera to have more FPS, you just dont have a good machine.

    NHqm5Xb.png

    Actually, frame rate is indeed capped at S1Engine.ini by "bSmoothFrameRate".

    If it was capped then you wont get more thant 80 fps but you can, good try thought.

    Unsure if the value is always the same.
    Assuming 80, it will always overlap a bit.
    Can also be override by Vsync.

    There were times when I got around 100 fps but I wont bother to stay still waiting or moving to spots to get that amount.

    The thing is even with that supposed cap you can get more fps without tweeking anything. If you cant then is becuase you dont have a good machine.

    I see.
    Perhaps the option is modified by the game options itself, unsure.
    Also, do you use Vsync?

    The option will always show 80 if you dont modify it however is not a cap for Tera not allowing you to get more FPS.

    I already told that I got a new pc and havent touched the ini file but I will show you the actual values in it and you can reach more than 80 fps even in that state.

    XSaBdOT.png

    Sqsl1RQ.png
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Acendia wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.

    You don't need to modify/remove "those configs" on Tera to have more FPS, you just dont have a good machine.

    NHqm5Xb.png

    Actually, frame rate is indeed capped at S1Engine.ini by "bSmoothFrameRate".

    If it was capped then you wont get more thant 80 fps but you can, good try thought.

    Unsure if the value is always the same.
    Assuming 80, it will always overlap a bit.
    Can also be override by Vsync.

    There were times when I got around 100 fps but I wont bother to stay still waiting or moving to spots to get that amount.

    The thing is even with that supposed cap you can get more fps without tweeking anything. If you cant then is becuase you dont have a good machine.

    I see.
    Perhaps the option is modified by the game options itself, unsure.
    Also, do you use Vsync?

    The option will always show 80 if you dont modify it however is not a cap for Tera not allowing you to get more FPS.

    I already told that I got a new pc and havent touched the ini file but I will show you the actual values in it and you can reach more than 80 fps even in that state.

    XSaBdOT.png

    Sqsl1RQ.png

    I meant Vsync on Nvidia/AMD control panel.
    If active there, it will override any game settings.

    No idea, this is the interface of nvidia I use to change settings in games.

    SQYngy2.jpg

    9vpcn6W.jpg

    sT8VPaY.jpg
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Acendia wrote: »
    Arwen wrote: »
    I'm always in awe when i read about awesome rigs that costs bunch of bucks and people still cannot manage to have decent FPS.
    I must be one of those lucky ones to be blessed to have a smooth experience in Tera.

    I own an Alienware 17, quite old already since i purchased it 4 years ago and is outdated so much.
    My GPU is one of the lowests, although when I'm in game on the idle zones i sit on 150-180 FPS at max graphics settings.
    Usually in crowded areas such as Highwatch I run around 80-120 FPS. In some bad cases, during dungeons my fps can drop to 40-50 but i can barely feel it. The only rare occasions when i do feel the struggle is during events when half server gaters on the same spot. Then i might have a drop to 5-10 FPS, hence i must lower the graphic settings to low.

    I am no computer savvy, i did no tweaks to my laptop. The only thing i can do is to put here my specs, maybe someone else can see into it and see why i have no issues. Also, i know that Tera will require good internet connection, i do run on a good internet speed with no sort of issues or packet loss.

    Windows 8.1, nVidia GeForce GTX 765M (which i intend to upgrade next month), Intel Core i7-4700MQ CPU @2.40GHz, 8 GB RAM.

    Tera has 80FPS cap line in the configs, unless you have for some dumb reason removed that- you are not getting the FPS you claim to get.

    You don't need to modify/remove "those configs" on Tera to have more FPS, you just dont have a good machine.

    NHqm5Xb.png

    Actually, frame rate is indeed capped at S1Engine.ini by "bSmoothFrameRate".

    If it was capped then you wont get more thant 80 fps but you can, good try thought.

    Unsure if the value is always the same.
    Assuming 80, it will always overlap a bit.
    Can also be override by Vsync.

    There were times when I got around 100 fps but I wont bother to stay still waiting or moving to spots to get that amount.

    The thing is even with that supposed cap you can get more fps without tweeking anything. If you cant then is becuase you dont have a good machine.

    I see.
    Perhaps the option is modified by the game options itself, unsure.
    Also, do you use Vsync?

    The option will always show 80 if you dont modify it however is not a cap for Tera not allowing you to get more FPS.

    I already told that I got a new pc and havent touched the ini file but I will show you the actual values in it and you can reach more than 80 fps even in that state.

    XSaBdOT.png

    Sqsl1RQ.png

    I meant Vsync on Nvidia/AMD control panel.
    If active there, it will override any game settings.

    No idea, this is the interface of nvidia I use to change settings in games.

    SQYngy2.jpg

    9vpcn6W.jpg

    sT8VPaY.jpg

    Never used Geforce Experience, seems the same options as in-game?
    If you right-click on your desktop, should have the option "NVIDIA Control Panel".
    At the control panel, "Manage 3D settings"
    Global settings tab, Vertical sync.

    These are the values in that tab.

    AOClaxB.png

    ZnbkGTs.png
  • ^ That looks like a laptop config window since it lack a lot of the options from desktop.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    ^ That looks like a laptop config window since it lack a lot of the options from desktop.

    You are correct, it is a laptop.
    It was shown on Geforce Experience.
    "Connected" and "Battery"

    Yes, it is a Lenovo Ideapad Y700.

    It has an Intel Core i7 @2.66 GHz
    The nvidia is a GTX 960m with 4 GB of GDDR5 (I have to correct myself becuase I think I said it was a 970 in another thread)
    Has 8 GB of RAM DDR4
    And 1 TB of HD

    Tera is the only game that my burn my laptop u_u
  • JerichowJerichow ✭✭✭✭
    Deluso wrote: »
    Does anyone here own an Ryzen to confirm how its perform for TERA? It's not that I'm doubtful of AMD's products but I'm pretty sure most of us knew that AMD's Ryzen lineup are good at multitasking while Intel's solely good in gaming. Especially the latest gen of Intel's Core series like 8th Gen Core i3-8350K which really good at single thread performance. Also, I'm not trusting the FPS counter in TERA but because even nVidia's GeForce Experience FPS counter shows different FPS than TERA's FPS/clock+ping counter. Not to mention other FPS counter programs.

    I have a R5 1600 system and Tera runs perfectly fine on it (and by that I mean it runs infinitely better than my old i5 2500k). I haven't OC'd it because I'm on the stock cooler in a very small case (Node 202), but even then it runs quite smoothly (see my first post in this thread to see the settings I use).

    The IPC (instructions per clock) on AMD chips which used to be a huge problem has basically been fixed with Ryzen, and right now the only 'deficit' (dare I even use the word) you will see in them is that the Ryzen chips don't clock past 3.8-3.9 GHz, but honestly even at 3.2GHz, I hit 80fps in Tera in plenty of places, and can hold ~50fps in most dungeons as long as we're not killing a dozen trash mobs at once. I will agree with others though that getting something like a 1600x that clocks up to 3.7Ghz will give you even better results, but at 3.2Ghz I run Tera, streaming Youtube on Chrome with ~25 tabs open, and your typical plethora of background windows programs and it doesn't even try.

    The problem with any i3 or R3 chips is that they're quad cores, which now that both Intel and AMD are pushing higher core counts, software developers (game devs too) will start writing game code to utilize several cores. Having 6+ physical cores is going to be a huge deal sooner than later (think about it, why else would Intel effectively shove what used to be top-tier i7 processors down into the i3 segment in a single generation?)

    I use MSI Afterburner to tell me what my FPS is and it is almost always within 1-2 fps of what the Steam FPS counter down in the corner is. Both of those are typically within margin-of-error to what Tera's is, so I'm confident that when all 3 tell me I'm at 80fps, I'm at 80fps.
  • DelusoDeluso ✭✭✭✭
    Jerichow wrote: »
    I have a R5 1600 system and Tera runs perfectly fine on it (and by that I mean it runs infinitely better than my old i5 2500k). I haven't OC'd it because I'm on the stock cooler in a very small case (Node 202), but even then it runs quite smoothly (see my first post in this thread to see the settings I use).

    The IPC (instructions per clock) on AMD chips which used to be a huge problem has basically been fixed with Ryzen, and right now the only 'deficit' (dare I even use the word) you will see in them is that the Ryzen chips don't clock past 3.8-3.9 GHz, but honestly even at 3.2GHz, I hit 80fps in Tera in plenty of places, and can hold ~50fps in most dungeons as long as we're not killing a dozen trash mobs at once. I will agree with others though that getting something like a 1600x that clocks up to 3.7Ghz will give you even better results, but at 3.2Ghz I run Tera, streaming Youtube on Chrome with ~25 tabs open, and your typical plethora of background windows programs and it doesn't even try.

    The problem with any i3 or R3 chips is that they're quad cores, which now that both Intel and AMD are pushing higher core counts, software developers (game devs too) will start writing game code to utilize several cores. Having 6+ physical cores is going to be a huge deal sooner than later (think about it, why else would Intel effectively shove what used to be top-tier i7 processors down into the i3 segment in a single generation?)

    I use MSI Afterburner to tell me what my FPS is and it is almost always within 1-2 fps of what the Steam FPS counter down in the corner is. Both of those are typically within margin-of-error to what Tera's is, so I'm confident that when all 3 tell me I'm at 80fps, I'm at 80fps.

    Thank you for answering my curiosity. Still, like I stated before, Ryzen for multitasking while Inte's Core solely for gaming purpose. Ryzen 3 and Ryzen 5 both a good choice with their price/performance value. Personally, I wanted to get a Ryzen setup but after considering unknown performance with TERA, I just don't know. Dilemma is the word.

    If only TERA could be more optimized and use more cores efficiently.
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