Nerf BAM & Boss HP. We don't have Talent System.

Antlur · June 2016

dinners wrote: »

link the video confirm. 3x high lvl daily bam in 15min? Are you talking about before ninja patch or you use some brawler glitch?

Figure out how cc works and stop getting trampled all day. One does not need video confirmation to figure out that it should not be taking you 25+ minutes on a brawler, without the talent system, if you have even the basic gear and have a general idea of how the class works.

magicloack · June 2016

yea they already give u double reward and u asking for a nerf I dont think this makes sense

Minazuki · June 2016

Nerf to ground BAMS need another nerf?... OMG
70s BAM die under 1min by 65s char and still need a nerf...

Laoshang · June 2016

Too much crit rng [filtered] for archer and zerk.
Soccerer is fine with 300+ cf after keen proc my fire blast is 50/50 crit rate, luckily I can rely on void pulse.
Zerk is the worst, the over charge hp drainage and 225 cf with carving still miss a bunch of crit with TS, and you thought zerk is kd master, I can barely kd the BAM with my raze > flatten > tackle combo. Starggering stike only let me land an unfinished charged TS before the BAM 180• face snap and the stun is no always happen. And please archer ....
I will end up looting all the motes, waste alot of time and burn alot of pots . However, I will keep learning & git gud.

Endeva · June 2016

dinners wrote: »

counterpoint wrote: »

The issue is just that the other classes need to be balanced a bit more. If you nerf HP, then the classes that already do well will just do even better, so it'll be even more incentive to use those faster classes to farm quickly. It won't actually solve the problem.

Ginjitsu wrote: »

It takes me about 15mins with Lucid +15 Brawler to complete 3x IoD Vanguard dailies.

link the video confirm. 3x high lvl daily bam in 15min? Are you talking about before ninja patch or you use some brawler glitch?

I didn't do any IoD Vanguard daily before Ninja patch, it had no Tera Rewards points... So only FIHM was the best option for several characters.

Brawler has a glitch ¬.¬?

TheGreyWolf · June 2016

Have I ever tried to clear high level IoD BAMs as an archer? Yes, yes I have.

Takes about an hour to kill ten of them, but that's normal for all classes, right? LOL.

DeadX · June 2016

OriginalAmorphous wrote: »

Are you nuts?

Please dont consider nerfing BAMS ever again. In fact IF ANYTHING they should be buffed.

What they can do is making it so you can do DAILIES AS A PARTY and not making people work extra for trying to do BAM dailies as a party.

Its like they are trying to make the game independent gaming. IT'S AN MMO.

yes, sooo aimed at solo gaming, those party buffs for doing an instance really up the rewards for soloers...oh wait, no they don't. nor can soloers even enter some instances they require a party. IoD is a case of you are supposed to earn the rewards, not faceroll them in a group. class balance patches are coming, nerfing anything until they arrive would be counterproductive.

finally, a game is a game whether it's an mmo or pure single player, they are meant to be enjoyed and there is more than enough content already weighted towards grouping. to get the most players involved a mmo will have content for every type of gamer just smart business. some of you people seriously need to get it out of your heads that mmo always = parties. there's been very VERY few mmo's that didn't have solo content available or content that could be soloed without explicit lockouts.

glad the developers at least understand how to make good all around games better than so many players.

Tene · June 2016

Takes me about ~5-8 min per bam quest at the highest level on a Mystic.......

msoltyspl · June 2016

Tene wrote: »

Takes me about ~5-8 min per bam quest at the highest level on a Mystic.......

Not mentioning the speed a duo can achieve. Those "BAM"s die faster than they can do anything.

msoltyspl · June 2016

Have you even try to clear IOD high Ivl BAM with archer, sorc, zerker, priest? Ktera brawler clears 3x IOD high lvl bam in 15min. N/A brawler takes 25~30min.

EME you need to nerf BAM and Some Boss HP.

That's one crappy brawler. Like, really crappy.

But either way, the "BAM"s don't need nerfs. They need significant buffs and first and foremost they need to go back to being group monsters. Like they were designed to be.

Then people can have some semblance of fun doing this [filtered] togehter in a party like they should be doing it in a mmo.

And for crying out loud, the game has so many bam types. Why not add randomization to the types respawned.

It's not rocket science ...

Remember the threads like https://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/Petition-against-BAM-AI-nerf that we used to have ?
Look for old pre-2013 videos and check for yourself what they should be compared to the boring anti-mmo joke they are now.

Aerie490 · June 2016

msoltyspl wrote: »

Have you even try to clear IOD high Ivl BAM with archer, sorc, zerker, priest? Ktera brawler clears 3x IOD high lvl bam in 15min. N/A brawler takes 25~30min.

EME you need to nerf BAM and Some Boss HP.

That's one crappy brawler. Like, really crappy.

But either way, the "BAM"s don't need nerfs. They need significant buffs and first and foremost they need to go back to being group monsters. Like they were designed to be.

Then people can have some semblance of fun doing this [filtered] togehter in a party like they should be doing it in a mmo.

And for crying out loud, the game has so many bam types. Why not add randomization to the types respawned.

It's not rocket science ...

Totally agree, EME pls boost IOD bams HP x5 and make them party doable

Nektor · June 2016

Lets start from which particular tier BAMs you guys are talking about. T3 naga/giants/hydras are just plain pain. Hydras are trowing freakin debuff 4 in the row. Even when i'm on gunner I cri 'hydra pls... staph'. Gians just roll on you like a train on rails and every hit is a KD. So when i get to nagas I go 'I... i love you guys, i really do' *wipes tears*

Nerf BAMs on IoD EME please we don't have VM7 and talent yet.

Juude · June 2016

3 IOD high level BAM's in 15 mins...? What are you playing and how bad are you?!
It takes me about a minute per BAM in +12 dread...

If you need 25-30 mins as a brawler, you are a terrible, terrible player....

Don't nerf the BAM's, it's the classes that need their damage raised. Make the BAM's easier to kill and brawlers/ninjas will finish this daily completely in less than 15 minutes.

KahzRB · June 2016

IoD is meant for solo experience. Many time player ask for class balance however they forgot each individual class has a role and play style. Just as we have dps, tank and support we also have classes which excel in independent combat and classes that only perform proficient in a group.

Choices and divergent like this, is why TERA adore by many people.

You cannot expect every person or classes to clear a content with similar result, we have a total of 16 character slots and I believe this is a massive gaming experience TERA trying to offer.
If every class or person can play or clear a content without a comparative result, that is imbalance.

Nektor · June 2016

I don't underhand your argue to deal with more buffed BAMs? Why buff them?

Better make a system that encourages to do in groups. E.G. if party of 2 =x20 BAMs. party or 3=x25, Party of 4 = x28, party of 5 =x30. Keep the ilv to prevent leaching and dualboxing etc. This would be a right one for MMO. Juts like it was done with XP buff in leveling instances. Hardly anyone trying to finish in party of 4 or 3 they recruit for more XP.

You wanna show off and kill buffed BAMs go solo an instance and make a video for tube ffs

Nerf BAM & Boss HP. We don't have Talent System.

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