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Bladestorm is OP

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  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Woah woah woah woah woah. 0 skill to land? No Backstab takes 0 skill to land, and guess what, 4 Warriors can achieve the same result if one uses binding sword, and another backstabs and then cascades, they can all cascade for follow up and not of that [filtered] is aimed. As least Bladestorm has to be landed by the first ninja.
    Lol, like Decoy Jutsu has to be aimed to land lmao. Even more, 4 ninjas will outdps 4 warriors ezpz.
    Actually, 2 ninjas can outdps 4 warriors.
    - Binding swords can be iframed cause of long animation.
    - Binding swords leaves the enemy with a 1 quick second of invulnerability, therefore you cannot backstab right away cause it won't stun.
    - Enemy can escape before you even get to attack after binding swords

    P.S. I was never complaining about ninjas, just defending warriors cause they don't have the "op" aoes you seem to say they have.
  • MorokuMoroku ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Fleett wrote: »
    Woah woah woah woah woah. 0 skill to land? No Backstab takes 0 skill to land, and guess what, 4 Warriors can achieve the same result if one uses binding sword, and another backstabs and then cascades, they can all cascade for follow up and not of that [filtered] is aimed. As least Bladestorm has to be landed by the first ninja.
    Lol, like Decoy Jutsu has to be aimed to land lmao. Even more, 4 ninjas will outdps 4 warriors ezpz.
    Actually, 2 ninjas can outdps 4 warriors.


    P.S. I was never complaining about ninjas, just defending warriors cause they don't have the "op" aoes you seem to say they have.

    Is this niga really comparing warrior vs ninja. I feel like autlsm comes in all shades of grey.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    Btw, ninjas seem to always crit, and for a lot.
    Warrior is only good in 1v1, ninja is good in 1v1 and team pvp.
  • JuudeJuude ✭✭✭
    Fleett wrote: »
    Btw, ninjas seem to always crit, and for a lot.
    Warrior is only good in 1v1, ninja is good in 1v1 and team pvp.

    Ninjas crit a lot because from what i've seen most ninja players stack crit like crazy and roll for power on gear. Use the right consumables and this adds up in hitting like a bus. But they're fodder, you can kill them about as fast as you kill a sorc.
  • JasonLucasJasonLucas ✭✭✭
    I usually don't have issues to kill ninjas as an warrior, guess if everything crits a warrior can 100% - 0% a ninja?
    But they're annoying as [filtered], IMO both Bladestorm and Ground Pounder should have a little loss in the stagger effectivity when hitting multiples targets.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    I have no problems with soloing ninjas either, but the class does have some op skills.

    Also, I don't stack all power, I stack both, more crit than power actually.

    And I was referring more in cs, with equalized gear they still crit a bunch.
  • SawaoSawao ✭✭
    one of the easiest skills to land in the entire game just below backstab and binding sword..

    what is this mess
    Ground Pound is literally easier than Backstab. It doesn't even need to be aimed nor do you need to stagger your opponent first to ensure its success (which could get ganked by terrain anyway). And Binding Sword is not "easy" to land considering it has a long-[filtered] animation lock and you can just walk straight the hell out of it... not to mention the long window it can be iframed in or the extremely telling animation that basically screams "get out of the way!".
  • AyiAyi ✭✭✭
    tldr; nerf all newer classes because they're op, buff old classes, oh and continue to nerf lancers.
  • VxiVxi ✭✭
    Lol "I don't have trouble 100-0ing ninjas, but pls nerf".
  • Fleett wrote: »
    Woah woah woah woah woah. 0 skill to land? No Backstab takes 0 skill to land, and guess what, 4 Warriors can achieve the same result if one uses binding sword, and another backstabs and then cascades, they can all cascade for follow up and not of that [filtered] is aimed. As least Bladestorm has to be landed by the first ninja.
    Lol, like Decoy Jutsu has to be aimed to land lmao. Even more, 4 ninjas will outdps 4 warriors ezpz.
    Actually, 2 ninjas can outdps 4 warriors.
    - Binding swords can be iframed cause of long animation.
    - Binding swords leaves the enemy with a 1 quick second of invulnerability, therefore you cannot backstab right away cause it won't stun.
    - Enemy can escape before you even get to attack after binding swords

    P.S. I was never complaining about ninjas, just defending warriors cause they don't have the "op" aoes you seem to say they have.

    If you can iframe a binding sword you can iframe a Bladestorm, and DPS has nothing to do with it, ninjas should out dps warriors since they require more skill to play. Decoy Jutsu not being aimed is irrelevant, it doesn't do damage if you're moving and it has no CC, it's a movement ability like the right click. Backstab while simular in design is training wheels, it has an outrageously long CC duration and takes no skill to land at all.
    Sawao wrote: »
    one of the easiest skills to land in the entire game just below backstab and binding sword..

    what is this mess
    Ground Pound is literally easier than Backstab. It doesn't even need to be aimed nor do you need to stagger your opponent first to ensure its success (which could get ganked by terrain anyway). And Binding Sword is not "easy" to land considering it has a long-[filtered] animation lock and you can just walk straight the hell out of it... not to mention the long window it can be iframed in or the extremely telling animation that basically screams "get out of the way!".

    No, Backstab isn't aimed, it's a point and click ability, the only thing easier than a point is click ability is an ability that you just click and it hits no matter where the enemy is. Such as Binding Sword. Do not call backstab aimed, there is no aiming for backstab, you cannot miss this ability unless you use it on a currently iframing target or the game glitches due to bad terrain. Neither of which are really missing, they're both just user being dumb, not mechanically unskilled.

    If you can iframe a Binding Sword you can iframe a Bladestorm making this whole discussion pointless. iframes however are not missing, they're essentially like the player blocking the ability, there is no real way to miss a Binding Sword and you have to be sleeping to miss a backstab.
  • JasonLucas wrote: »
    I usually don't have issues to kill ninjas as an warrior, guess if everything crits a warrior can 100% - 0% a ninja?
    But they're annoying as [filtered], IMO both Bladestorm and Ground Pounder should have a little loss in the stagger effectivity when hitting multiples targets.

    Ya warriors seem to be ninja's counter. I get bursted down to nothing like 5% or less with 1 warrior combo in CS/FREY

    It's irritating cause that 1 backstab stun can really be the end of any damage you have put in so far. In other words you could have him at 1% and if he just gets that 1 stun, gg ninja.
  • TewiiTewii ✭✭✭
    I can't take PurpleKnightmare seriously when he says Binding Sword is one of the easiest things to land in the game. You have to have literally 0 pvp knowledge to say that skill is easy to land.
  • Juude wrote: »
    If you have the ability to iframe out of that skill, then the skill is rendered completely useless because everyone will simply use some iframe to get out.
    I fail to see how a skill that forces one to burn an iframe would be completely useless.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    "Ninjas should out dps warriors since they require more skill to play."
    They out dps a warrior because they are cloth, not because they require more skill.

    @ThePurpleKnightmare Now I know you're trolling lmao.
  • FleettFleett ✭✭✭✭
    For Backstab to work you have to have your cursor pointed at someone, so in a small sense, it does have to be aimed.

    Binding Swords is a sh*t skill with a super long cooldown, long animation, and it's very easily iframeable.

    Decoy Justsu itself is [filtered], but after a Decoy Jutsu you can combo someone 100-0 easily.

    P.S. If you really think that Ninjas aren't op, you should go watch the 3 videos someone posted about ninja PvP in CS.
    It was posted a couple days ago, maybe you can find it. :)
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