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no it wasn't a change to the game, it was like that. players just got used to it.
well, say all you want, but if you can't manage time after all these time playing Tera, well you don't get to complain. I agree the 3 hours CCB is complete boohoo, but I believe it shouldn't have changed in the 1st place, Using CCB was part of playing the game and time management.
I'm not too sure about the white knight part, my thoughts are counterpoint does seem to muster his best to speak with as much reason he can while many of us including myself prefer to shoot first talk later (though that ain't bad btw, it just goes to show how strongly we feel and want the best for the game). The rest of the things you've said - I completely agree.
Look at how they reacted to their own recent folly, especially one that appeared to be of (undue) advantage to a good number (but not all) players who were allowed to open the Elin Gunner Item Claim boxes with just any leveled toon - they were so quick to remedy the fault on their part, and not let yet more players take undue advantage of it, that they called for an URGENT MAINTENANCE and got it FIXED/CORRECTED ASAP so only levelled Elin gunners can rightly benefit from those boxes.
Do we see ANY ACTUAL SENSE OF URGENCY on their part when it comes to things that TRULY MATTER TO PLAYERS? Maybe some of you can quote an instance or two, but do those account for their LARGELY LACKADAISICAL attitude towards what many if not most players ask for? Some of us wanted simple things like a daily vanguard counter for the 16 dailies we do (not all of us do, I concur), but for those who asked it, do you hear even a word that they would do anything about it? Well, I didn't hear $hlt. Even if this is up to BHS, let us know that you hear us, but nay... zilch. Yep, there are way more examples than this, but you guys get the general idea - WHERE AN ELEMENT EXISTS THAT WOULD UNDULY BENEFIT PLAYERS, THEY'RE QUICK TO ACT ON IT, BUT WHERE AN ELEMENT EXISTS THAT COMES AT A DISADVANTAGE TO PLAYERS, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY REALLY GIVE A RAT'S A$$ ABOUT MAKING GOOD FOR THE PLAYERS' BENEFIT. EITHER THAT, OR THEY TAKE AN INFINITELY LONG TIME TO ACT ON IT.
Right now, a PERMANENT CCB is what manyyyyyyy players want, EME. Are you guys hearing it already? A SPECIFIC response on this please? And not something about telling us what isn't good for us is good for us. Tyvm.
@Spacecats "Do we replace Gold Boost with CCBs on the Elite bar?"
NO man, just NO. What is going on with the desire to remove stuff? If something is not worth it FIX IT to make it valuable don't remove it. If you have to remove something to replace it with something MORE VALUABLE then say so up front and in advance.
But, just for schnitz n giggles, how about, make the gold boost viable/valuable, AND fix the perma ccb? What would that be like? Is that something you might be interested in? Does that tickle your fancy? You know, maybe on a Thursday, or a rainy weekend night right when the clouds break and the moon is just right? you know what i'm talkin about...
(And making the gold boost more useful is obviously a good idea, but yet another that relies on BHS to do.)
Btw, EME, if you do hear what we say and act on those little things we ask, it is not a sign of weakness or bowing to pressure in any way, but just a simple sign that you care.
If BHS was doing things right we wouldn't be talking about CCB now, there is a reason forums is more active than game, nothing to do there lol
Oh btw, Support has replied as follows. At least it's not some defensive excuse they're giving. If feedback is what's needed, give it.
u gave us 24 three hour ccbs instead of just 6 twelve hour ones.
gg.
Once again because you don't understand.
Just because you look at the value of something and deem it to be, for you, worthless, doesn't mean it's worthless for other people.
Be considerate.
That's because your explanation is basically "stupidity", just with more words. We understand the "good reason", we just think it's a stupid reason. Based on what you've said so far:
1. "We lived without it for 5 years, it's no biggie" : And those avid achievement hunters lived without that achievement for 5 years as well. Unless they also happen to have all other achievements done on their elin gunner, they don't actually have an issue.
2. "They don't want people to be cut off from content" : What about all those legacy achievements that weren't deleted? For a completionist(which is what somebody wanting that achievement is), the mere existence of the looong list of achievements that can't be obtained is no different from these two and these two don't even show up on the list so it's even less of an OCD trigger.
3. "They couldn't just tell people to cancel their elite, that's bad business" : Silence is golden. They didn't have to say -anything- at all. If they really wanted to be nice, they could've said that if players chose to discontinue their special discount elite in order to get these very important achievements, they'd reinstate said special discount once the achievements were obtained(which, according to another post in this topic is something they do).
4. "They can't give tradeable ones because that'd be OP" : That's the point where you lost the argument, in case you are wondering. The moment those words came out of Spacecat's keyboard, the genuine lack of understanding of the game became far too apparent for any cover-up to work.
Your(and their) arguments all boil down to "they did their best, guys" the same way you look at the giraffe-like painting of a horse a 3 year old drew and say "awww, it's so good, I know you did your best".
That is my opinion and I think you only want to look things from your own stand point because when you complain about something being worthless then no matter if that thing is worth for other people.
Read again these kinds of post you made where you make a good aproach and compare it with other post you already done in the past to see the diference in them.
In this case, about the perma ccb being removed reaction, it is really an over reaction in forums. If you bother for a perk that you need to activate every 12 hours because you can forget about its lenght and lost it on battle, there you have also the effect of the nostrum one that is even more important to lose in battle because it will impact the battle inmediatly after you lose its effect and not until you die again.
I think you miss again what I am saying, I concur that the perma ccb is a nice perk but is not a perk with a value to make worth elite. I concur that elite is lacking of elements and removing a perk even if is a small perk make its worth less for many people. I concur that perma ccb is more important than 20 points from 2 achievements that only promotes something you should avoid in the game. I concur that EME made a desicion based on feedback from a probable minority in the game but we don't have elements to prove they are the minority.
What I am pointing here is that many people are over reaction about this perk and instead of making suggestions about what could be better they only got in the "I will disregard others forums ideas and suggestions that don't apeal my interest to attack eme for their incompetence since only those who thinks like me are in the right and those who don't are only white knight and don't deserve space in this thread because their opinion is worthless".
So you can decide for first time if you can "Be considerated" and acknowlegde diferent ideas about this issue.
Those were part of my first 3 post in this thread, I am pretty sure that you didn't even bother to read them, you will see that I am not against the idea to bring it back and that I concur with those who are upset about its removal, but not about the reactions from others.
If you really would care enought at this time you will see people from the old forums how anything that can bring a complain they don't even give an idea of a good solution, they only want to make a post insulting EME staff, being the old crew or the new, and if anyone tell them their opinion about the issue and is not the same as them they will be white knights, morons, stupids, idiots and the list go on.
I wonder why you as a PC member dont step on to calm down those people but step on to confront some one you have a personal grundge, oh wait, of course you will prefer to step to confront the one you have a persoanl grundge because you don't have anything of value to say in the post because you already contradicted yourself
You already steped in this forum in the page 2 and 3 and you made a post calling worthless something that have worth for other people, so where are you putting on practice your words?
DO NOT send in support tickets and waste GMs times and increase legitimate user's times for issues to give feedback simply because you are upset.
Then perhaps you know of a more direct way of contacting the right people that does not involve submitting a support ticket? I sure don't. Ticket submitted.