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Double Gold Reward for Vanguards.
I have seen that EU for example got their prison patch with the double gold for vanguard and now they get 1.2k for RG or 600g from high level bams at IOD.. so at this point they have the 100% keen mote with the vanguard shop updated making the vanguard points to be worth x4 more than NA and now they even got the patch where the gold was doubled for the vanguard quests ( i know that i should stop with the EU examples but once again they are keeping up with KR and improving in one way or another ).
At this point.. I need to ask what is happening with NA or what will happen in the future since we also got the broken prison patch but the gold was not doubled and at this point we do not have the 100% keen mote and the vanguard shop updated which were supposed to be the trade off so far since two months already passed from the Arsenal patch for getting double rewards from vanguard quests which if we talk about it then we can figure out that at least in terms of gold they are not double at all but instead greatly diminished exactly because the shop is not updated so only glyphs/etchings really matter .. but on top of this we are not going to get the double gold as well?
So again i need to ask to at least know what to expect because if this is the actual deal then this is going a bit too far in my opinion since this no longer looks like trying to balance the rewards in one way or another..
At this point.. I need to ask what is happening with NA or what will happen in the future since we also got the broken prison patch but the gold was not doubled and at this point we do not have the 100% keen mote and the vanguard shop updated which were supposed to be the trade off so far since two months already passed from the Arsenal patch for getting double rewards from vanguard quests which if we talk about it then we can figure out that at least in terms of gold they are not double at all but instead greatly diminished exactly because the shop is not updated so only glyphs/etchings really matter .. but on top of this we are not going to get the double gold as well?
So again i need to ask to at least know what to expect because if this is the actual deal then this is going a bit too far in my opinion since this no longer looks like trying to balance the rewards in one way or another..
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On weekend i had the x2 gold from VGs.. Today i don't
I personally think it is not just about the value of the items either as because vanguard credits are permanent additions items that aren't always needed in the shop tend to go down in price. This is shown when MWA boxes dropped in value after mongos.
I would say add a few more useful things in the shop so there is actually something to buy outside of crystals and reset scrolls, but also not destroy the progression by making the rates too OP.
1) Strong Bravery/Canephora
While some people don't actually need them due to oversupply, it is a good addition for people wanting to start on endgame but don't have many of these items.
2) Silver/Gold talent boxes
At this point, 4-5 silver talents or 20ish gold talents per 200 credit box with a chance for more similar to the old MWA boxes is enough. You can have the box drop either silver or gold talents based on rng and I don't think people will mind.
3) Crafter Cures
Even though it is not a necessity as the market has enough, it helps in enhancement. I don't think 300-400 per cure is a bad cost.
TL;DR: Increase the value in the item shops.
I actually believe that the gold is the real problem in this patch because we did get the gear XP but the gold income was cut to half or more so in the end we received one thing but lost another ending up with tough enchanting experiences. At the very least, i have to say that i enchanted my three pieces of armor that had full XP from +0 frostmetal to +0 stormcry and each piece used around 100k gold even though they had roughly 60% going to 50% enchanting chance and added up with the weapon that was the same in terms of gear XP and costed at least 200k gold then i have spent 500k only for the weapon/armor and i have not touched the accessories yet.. Of course, anyone could say that why +0 stormcry but we are already two months into the patch if we are not going to get at least +0 stormcry at this point then what was the reason behind the gear XP since nothing would change from the previous patches... And its going to get much tougher from now if i dare to even go further because the enchanting costs even with full XP costs so much more while the enchanting rate goes lower.
Still, if we are not going to get the double gold bonus from the vanguard requests for various reasons including how it could affect the economy then at least we should get an improved version of the current keen mote with a chance to drop around 20-25% and the vanguard shop should be updated with relevant items that could help with the gear progression like talents or crafting cures as you said along with items like the superior noctenium elixir and hopefully a RNG box with a decent chance to get smart dyads.
About the enchanting materials.. it seems that the metamorphic emblems plus the dungeon drops manage to mostly cover up the enchanting materials needed to enchant or upgrade and especially since many of the enchanting materials can be turned into metamorphic emblems practically trading the enchanting materials for each other depending on what is needed.
What are you talking about? Prior to this patch KC gave 200 gold. Now it gives 600. Gold income was not halved by any means.
I like this idea.
Story missions giving more gold than end-game vanguard missions could promote players to try to end all of them and making the open world more lively.
They cost a lot more simply because of the high demand of enchanting materials since the population is x3 or higher ( the population was not like this but it steadily grow over time because of all the changes that made players to want to get involved ) while most of everyone is either doing PvP or PvE because the rewards are motivating to do so.. and if you are not into PvPvE every day and want to chill then you can buy crafting potions and craft items to sell since crafting is godly there once again due to demand ( i made 100k in two days being amazed at how fast the materials were selling and it was on Killian considering that some of the population went on the test server ).
And now quests give double gold rewards on EU as in KR while EU has 100% keen as most likely on KR ( i cannot confirm unfortunately ).. while EU has the updated vanguard shop once again as most likely on KR.. so they pretty much aling with that KR does and as you probably saw the population exploded ( the EMP rate also exploded due to high demand so its a win/win ).
Want more? The both sides giving/using buddy up receive x2 tokens that can buy two rare items which cost 40k each at the broker so from the start you have 80k there..and I have heard that the crafting potion that gives 4k points costs 500 vanguard points on the test server while the designs such as silver/gold plate are 1k each at the NPC plus anyone with Elite has 100% drop buff along other events that are so motivating... so pretty much any player can start on the test server and grow up so nicely to catch up then free transfer on one of the other normal servers to do PvP or the HM dungeons.
I know what you are saying very well because i had exactly the same experience on both EU and NA and it was quite impressing in a happy and sad way since at least on NA it took me two months to get +0 stormcry on my main character doing vanguards with 3 characters per day... But right now everything that i have as in gear/gold/guild/friends/etc are on NA and i cannot simply erase everything and move on.
At this point.. i do not even expect to have the same experience that every other region has besides NA ( i even heard that RU has x2 drop buff for elite to make up for other things ).. but at the very least have some decent experience because right now we are behind by quite a lot considering that we do not have 100% keen mote.. no update on vanguard shop and neither the double gold reward on vanguard quests plus many other missing events....
Oh yes.. we also lost the permanent CCB for elite? This one does not make sense too..
Ghillieglade Online anyone?
Without being a hardcore player, even if I have been playing for a while but not all days and sometimes not even doing dungeons for weeks or for more than a weak and not even doing anything further mid dungeons. I got quite enough from the current content's quests and dungeons. I was able able to enchant Twistshard in five toons, upgrade Ballum and Frostmetal on two toons and even make gold. My problem to make gold are players and not EME and BHS, due the pathetic manner that many players set the prices of diferent items on broker.
what???? you lose out on a significant amount of gold by doing IOD instead of dungeons and tokens are only useful if you're still in need of master glyphs/etchings. as for the boxes that give gold talents + whatever mats i rather just run TR for a stack of talents plus a nice sum of gold/chance for an emerald/design recipe.
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> what???? you lose out on a significant amount of gold by doing IOD instead of dungeons and tokens are only useful if you're still in need of master glyphs/etchings. as for the boxes that give gold talents + whatever mats i rather just run TR for a stack of talents plus a nice sum of gold/chance for an emerald/design recipe.
If you are truly speed running, there was a point where doing low tier iod is more gold efficient than any other vanguard request. 14 gold talents in 3 minutes flat + 120 gold each.
Or you can do RG or KC in 5 minutes, get 600g and more mats than IoD per run, plus more vanguard creditss, plus more item exp.
Only real reason to make IoD instead of dungeons are if you need master glyphs, tier 3 etchings, reward points or if you like to gamble and hope to get a good enchanting material from tier 3 IoD bams.
But i am curious what is more expensive on EU than on NA?