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Is this the healer patch

GatokatzenGatokatzen
in TERA PC - General Discussion
Hi, tera community, I was wondering if be possible that in a near future we can get an option to add a NPC Healer or NPC tank in the Dugen QueQue system like the last ravenous gorge boss have it. For the low level dugens or also mid if people wont get mad. Queque times are terrible for DPS class you have to wait 15 min of 20 min per party. Even if you are in a guild, people play the game less time than before. A healer can get a party in 4 or 3 min. So many of us who love dps were being forced to play healers in order to avoid wating forever to play a single dugen.
Normal tera players who love the game but due to work, university and homeworks. Cannot waste 4 or 3 hours just to play a basic dugen. Really would like to have this option before start queque, and option to add NPC priest or tanks helpers to make faster QueQue System in DPS Class. Sorry if my english is too bad, isnt my main languague.

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  • VinyltailsVinyltails ✭✭✭✭
    I really don't think BHS has the technology or know how to do this....the NPCs in RG (and CW to an extension) are just set to attack that specific boss...most of the time they don't really do that correctly (The RG healer for me feels REALLY underwhelming, the CW healer just gave a really potent healing aura)

    It would be nice to have these (see Squadron dungeons in FFXIV), but i doubt BHS is capable of doing this...not like they care about doing it in the first place
  • GatokatzenGatokatzen ✭✭✭
    Well I suggested this option to allowed they to transform 5 man dungeons in to 3 players dugen, just with a computer code, without remove or add more Dugens, or remove normal game features .instead of the normal message we having a difficulty to find a balanced class etc. Since you start the game, with this code you have the posibility to transform 5 party forced dugens in 3 party dugens with NPC helps , it can be allowed just for low tier dugens and also all basic story dugens for leveling characters ,and don't. Work with reset scroll to avoid abuse from hardcore players. This will helps the game a lot of , people can play more faster since they just started the game for first time , queque times will being reduced drastically, and we will have more happy players. Because they can play the game and don't wait lot of times AKF or waiting in a corner bored waiting to play.
  • 6YXE6F9HEL6YXE6F9HEL ✭
    It wouldn't be impossible to do something decent with AI but BHS doesn't seem like it's any close to doing so, and to be honest, you could put some people botting into it and they'll give you a better IA already.

    As for the idea itself, i dont' think it would be bad but it's not something i'd want from running a dungeon, in that regard, exploring different ways of doing dungeons as whole wouldn't be bad either. So yeah, it could be fine as it is for RG, for a dungeon similar like that but still not a fun thing from it.

    I thinks there's probably better ways to try fix the population disparity issue but if it has gotten that bad then sure, doing that wouldn't be a bad start.


  • GatokatzenGatokatzen ✭✭✭
    6YXE6F9HEL wrote: »
    It wouldn't be impossible to do something decent with AI but BHS doesn't seem like it's any close to doing so, and to be honest, you could put some people botting into it and they'll give you a better IA already.

    As for the idea itself, i dont' think it would be bad but it's not something i'd want from running a dungeon, in that regard, exploring different ways of doing dungeons as whole wouldn't be bad either. So yeah, it could be fine as it is for RG, for a dungeon similar like that but still not a fun thing from it.

    I thinks there's probably better ways to try fix the population disparity issue but if it has gotten that bad then sure, doing that wouldn't be a bad start.


    Hope they find a way to retain players, I remember in 2016 you can get a party in 5 min or 6 min as dps and 10 min for a mid tier dugen via IMS, now low tier dugens are in 15 min if be lucky and for mid dugen might be 1 hour if dont get kicked for dont have hardcore gear. My little idea could help the game in the hard times to come, when tera start on ps4 and xbox one might the 60% of pc normals players, migratte to consoles and uninstall the pc game. This may force hardcore players to leave pc for consoles.even if run old patches, Lack of population means less items or mats for sale in broker. Epic queque times, and not enough people to parties, also a last breath for tera.
  • GatokatzenGatokatzen ✭✭✭
    > @Legerrarwen said:
    > Yea this is a nothing patch if anything, I queue all the time on my tank and healer finding almost no instant pops. Sure I do harder dungeons like TRHM and RKHM cause I find those dungeons are funnest to do with a random party. But recently healer for even TRHM takes 2-5 hours+ cause no tanks ever queue for it and even the easier things like RKNM even take 20-60 minutes for healers. With my tank I can get RKNM usually within 10-15 minutes max but it's rarely instant while TRHM and RKHM take 2-6 hours to pop even as a tank, cause no DPS queue for them. With the few times I do get into the harder dungeons like TRHM and RKHM if we lose a DPS we are waiting forever and most times it's people getting friends to join in.
    >
    > It's pretty pathetic that the times are this bad for everyone now, when before it was possible to easily get IMS pops within 1-2 hours even for the top dungeons. I remember during SSHM that I was able to get that to pop on healer and tank at least 3-6 times a day but now top end doesn't even pop at all. Which is pretty sad since IMS has been the main reason I love this game, since LFGs are always to easy to complete dungeons and rarely even wipe which is pretty boring.
    >
    > Even worse when EME or BHS could easily deal with this problem by just adding extra rewards for joining IMS, nothing huge lke extra 25-200g depending on the dungeon. Which they used to do super long time ago like TSHM days when you got an extra trash box, which wasn't anything huge but it was something. Like why is this system being ignored when it's so helpful to new players and people trying to learn the dungeon without being rejected for LFGs constantly cause "not skilled or geared enough."

    > @Legerrarwen said:
    > Yea this is a nothing patch if anything, I queue all the time on my tank and healer finding almost no instant pops. Sure I do harder dungeons like TRHM and RKHM cause I find those dungeons are funnest to do with a random party. But recently healer for even TRHM takes 2-5 hours+ cause no tanks ever queue for it and even the easier things like RKNM even take 20-60 minutes for healers. With my tank I can get RKNM usually within 10-15 minutes max but it's rarely instant while TRHM and RKHM take 2-6 hours to pop even as a tank, cause no DPS queue for them. With the few times I do get into the harder dungeons like TRHM and RKHM if we lose a DPS we are waiting forever and most times it's people getting friends to join in.
    >
    > It's pretty pathetic that the times are this bad for everyone now, when before it was possible to easily get IMS pops within 1-2 hours even for the top dungeons. I remember during SSHM that I was able to get that to pop on healer and tank at least 3-6 times a day but now top end doesn't even pop at all. Which is pretty sad since IMS has been the main reason I love this game, since LFGs are always to easy to complete dungeons and rarely even wipe which is pretty boring.
    >
    > Even worse when EME or BHS could easily deal with this problem by just adding extra rewards for joining IMS, nothing huge lke extra 25-200g depending on the dungeon. Which they used to do super long time ago like TSHM days when you got an extra trash box, which wasn't anything huge but it was something. Like why is this system being ignored when it's so helpful to new players and people trying to learn the dungeon without being rejected for LFGs constantly cause "not skilled or geared enough."

    Thats also be the failure of the new arsenal patch, before this gold sink and epic fails to enchant a single piece of mid gear or huge price where you need almost 10000 gold to enchant basic gear, and more than 100.000 gold per mid tier gear, cause this lack of players for harder dugens, when we enchanted with feedstock and scrolls or alkanesth non harcore players can get 3 or 5 character with mid tier gear to play just for 15000gold each character. Now is imposible to have more than one or 2 characters with mid tier gear due to epic gold prices and the most silly invent, gear exp.
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