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Remove WBAM lv68

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  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    ElinLove wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Yakusan wrote: »
    Naru2008 wrote: »

    This. The players chose to quit because they KNEW they were doing wrong.

    more like they quit because the experience of playing this game without the proxy is incredibly mediocre because of all the bugs and ping related issues lmao, i feel like theres a problem with your game if people can't fully enjoy it without resorting to third party programs but the devs don't really care

    I know many players with more than 200 ms and don't use 3rd party software and enjoy the game.

    Players and 3rd party software devs always will find excuses to justify their shady bussiness.

    I play since 2014 with 180ms ping and OH MY GOD! I can't do maximum possible damage on classes!! Must find a loophole somewhere...

    Yeah, no I don't need that crap either and have been playing all fine and dandy. I do agree ping dependency is an issue that has to be dealt with, but using this as a justification for 3rd party tools as if "you can't play without" is just stretching it.

    And the fun fact is: they always say the EXACT SAME WORDS, the exact same stupid "disable your proxy and 3rd party tools cheater" meme to ridicule anyone against their use, the exact same "you cannot enjoy the game without it" when countered, and the exact same explanations of what they do and how they're harmless and with nothing but some teeny tiny code on client side, they fix PERFECTLY the entire ping dependency, with no desync, not a single issue.

    They still have desincs using those tools, you can read their tools page and you will see they are "fixing desincs from their tools" by ruberbanding the characters and there are even more things into it.

    They have not fixed anything at all, just killed "ping tax", the time the server delay his ok for you to continue with more skills, on client side making more desincs than usual and their new way to fix it is rubberbanding your characters. Funny.
  • Lyanni wrote: »
    I wouldnt say for them to remove, since there's achievements for killing them. But getting rid of the drops would be a step to take.

    This! I've been thinking this same thing. They need to remove the drops for these specific bosses.
  • MountMount
    edited January 2018
    that no make sense a program can detect server spawn time
    actually i got like 2~5 bam /day without a program like that
    cus i always check them every 6 hour (used time maintance) so if maintance ended at 11am u check them at 5pm i not take any wbam when maintance ended cus probably killed by player after maintance and wbam spawn time is around 5~12hour
  • > @Mount said:
    > that no make sense a program can detect server spawn time
    > actually i got like 2~5 bam /day without a program like that
    > cus i always check them every 6 hour (used time maintance) so if maintance ended at 11am u check them at 5pm i not take any wbam when maintance ended cus probably killed by player after maintance and wbam spawn time is around 5~12hour

    Exactly, while maybe these illegal scripts make it easier for the people using them, it's perfectly doable without them, my bf and i have been doing them since they were implemented just by using the guessing method, it takes time, yeah, but if you really want the loot then you gotta work for it imo.
  • They are afk but they always go perfectly to the points where the wbam appear. server TR . for example in Tempest Kanash. I look for and there is no one looking for a long time, a wbam appears on channel 3 and magically a hunter appears.
  • asusm5asusm5 ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    a program can show HP of all wbam in the zone at same time in the screen with that they know in what order to kill them . some people use in event of bam
  • 6R1MM01R36R1MM01R3 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Yakusan wrote: »
    Naru2008 wrote: »

    This. The players chose to quit because they KNEW they were doing wrong.

    more like they quit because the experience of playing this game without the proxy is incredibly mediocre because of all the bugs and ping related issues lmao, i feel like theres a problem with your game if people can't fully enjoy it without resorting to third party programs but the devs don't really care

    Those who want proxy stopped and the users banned are either players with very low ping or absolute under-performing casuals, or both.
    Lizzu wrote: »
    > @Mount said:
    > that no make sense a program can detect server spawn time
    > actually i got like 2~5 bam /day without a program like that
    > cus i always check them every 6 hour (used time maintance) so if maintance ended at 11am u check them at 5pm i not take any wbam when maintance ended cus probably killed by player after maintance and wbam spawn time is around 5~12hour

    Exactly, while maybe these illegal scripts make it easier for the people using them, it's perfectly doable without them, my bf and i have been doing them since they were implemented just by using the guessing method, it takes time, yeah, but if you really want the loot then you gotta work for it imo.

    And about apps that can tell you about a WB present in your current area and channel, I think even FFXIV has something like that for A/S rank hunt marks.
  • 6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    Those who want proxy stopped and the users banned are either players with very low ping or absolute under-performing casuals, or both.

    I dont play with low ping (average 120-140 in a good day), and i dont under-perform either, i do my job just fine, and i dont need that kind of proxy.
    They should yes get rid of it, not because of the proxy itself but how it opens doors to exploit things in other ways.
    Its a case of, because of some people, everyone else will pay.
    6R1MM01R3 wrote: »
    And about apps that can tell you about a WB present in your current area and channel, I think even FFXIV has something like that for A/S rank hunt marks.

    I dont know how it is right now, but on FFXIV people wouldnt solo them anyway.
    People shared the times of kill/spawn of the A/S ranks and then would sent global messages warning everyone who wanted to kill them.
    Not the same thing.
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    So yes... to wait one month to have chance to do Imperfect crystals is a veeeery long time. The permaccb should have been removed becasue of that 10 points of achs.
    Now many people struggle to do Rule Arun and Rule Shara (together btw more than 100 ach points) and cant do it for months(!) because its impossible to find any rare. And it ok for everyone who thought ccb is a trouble.

    srsly i dont get how this system works.
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Double post
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Sweet i have already champion laurel.
    5 k bosses took for me 3 days if you was talking about that.
    so yes tell me more about work dear.

    but last month i constantly hear complain from ppl who stalking them. It was easier to find in december for sure.

    btw. If someone already killing him and invites you then you dont get an ach. Get it? You have to find it and start kill to have an ach.

    p.s. Dont think that all ppl thinking only of themself. And thanks god the fact that i got champion didnt change my habit to help others without toxic answer.

  • it would be necessary to add new functions in some scripts, but it would be possible to make fun hunt WBAMS lv68, i will put my 2cents here how make this in 3 steps...


    first create a chat with hierarchy above the global to announce " xxx WBAM is about to spawn in xxx map in 5 minutes' this script would have to have two distinct functions,one summon the boss 5 minutes after system call the message in the chat. another kick the players on those maps with more than 5 minutes afk...

    second change would be to remove all loot from WBAM and create a new tab in vanguard exclusive for WBAMS, where it would have the rewards who loot in WBAMS here , by placing a counter of 6 or 12 hours respawn "of the vanguard mission count only" for each WBAM and your VG mission...

    the third would be to decrease the number of players per shard where WBAM will appear in 25% to reduce lag problems and disconnections, as well as increase defense and life of WBAM so that a certain number of players have time to go to the map hunt the WBAM, player who did not get to enter because shard is full, just waiting next call of WBAM in the chat...
  • StitchedSoulStitchedSoul ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    @CornishRex ok. Something else? Youre just like typical elitist not ok with possibility that someone else may have their laurel easier that you if wbams would be removed. And im ok with this.

    p.s. In the middle age galleys use peoples force to move ship. Does it mean we should refuse technologies because before was another way? The point is that people who dont give a damn about wboss stuff have to put effort way too bigger in compare of what it gives. And you smart-@ss answers wont change my opinion that its unfair in a way.
    Youre free now.
  • BabitBabit ✭✭
    edited January 2018
    My 2 cents from personal experience.

    I've just started hunting wbams the last week or so and i have to say that I don't see any problem. I get atleast 1 a day and have a record of 7 wbams in 1 hour with a small 4 man party searching.

    I'm 100% ethical just refine your technique write down timers and actually put in the work and you will see almost more profit than running dungeons.

    Also I play on mt where the competition for wbams is pretty fierce so don't be afraid.
  • I made an account to post about this, and its the same people from the same guilds that are ruining this game because they cant play the legit way.
    they ruined gold drops from BAMS because they exploited it
    they ruined Alliance because they exploited it
    the same people cheating in 3's.
    the same people raging in FWC and other BGs.
    the same people hacking.
    the same people who ruined events because they exploit them.
    and so many other things.
    I can name the guilds and individual players but we all know who they are, talking about MT.
    they cant just play the game without cheating or just let others enjoy the game.


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