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TERA can keep ninja/reaper elin, but make GUNNER MALE

they're finally fixing brawler, now just add a gunner counterpart for castanic/high elf male.
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  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's one thing we may see if Male Brawler is popular enough, in an income standpoint that is. People may hail it and all but if it doesn't sell enough stuff, no good.

    To be fair, I do hope all classes just get released for all races, no exclusives. It wouldn't be hard lore-wise to just go like "The (insert class here) trained the federation warriors the arts of the (class name)", but obviously that's a financially hard to justify investment. Only can only hope of course.
  • ElinLove wrote: »
    That's one thing we may see if Male Brawler is popular enough, in an income standpoint that is. People may hail it and all but if it doesn't sell enough stuff, no good.

    To be fair, I do hope all classes just get released for all races, no exclusives. It wouldn't be hard lore-wise to just go like "The (insert class here) trained the federation warriors the arts of the (class name)", but obviously that's a financially hard to justify investment. Only can only hope of course.

    At this point, the lore/story is hopelessly neglected and doesn't look like it will receive improvements any time soon. I say open the classes to all races and let people play what they want.

    I have to admit, gunner would seem to fit males a lot better anyway. When I think of a person carrying a huge gun, I think of Jesse Ventura in the movie Predator mowing down trees with his M134 Minigun.
  • edited January 2018
    ElinLove wrote: »
    That's one thing we may see if Male Brawler is popular enough, in an income standpoint that is. People may hail it and all but if it doesn't sell enough stuff, no good.
    That's basically what I would say too -- for the love of god everyone who keeps clamoring for them to bring these classes to males, create male Brawlers and show there's real interest/traction. If it doesn't happen and people are all like "well, people already have their brawlers and they don't really care enough to make a new one that's male" then the "dream" is over. If the amount of Elin gunners created and played wildly exceeds the amount of male brawlers, well...

  • All 3 of the people who want male gunners will be thrilled!
  • PartyblastPartyblast ✭✭✭✭
    All 3 of the people who want male gunners will be thrilled!

    This basically, and what ElinLove + Counterpoint said. The reason these classes are locked for females only is because of the $$, if you want more male classes you need to prove to them that the risk they took in opening Brawler up to Male Human (even though literally everything is a copy+paste, including the "draw me like a french girl" death animation) was worth it and that opening up more classes to males is okay to do financially.
  • Partyblast wrote: »
    even though literally everything is a copy+paste, including the "draw me like a french girl" death animation

    I assume they at least made alterations to the gunner-exclusive armor looks where needed... otherwise, well, may not get quite the take-up they were thinking... lol
  • I agrre its not that hard. in the end they only copy paste the animation and git gud. I don't see a reason why the shouldn't do that. Seriously just give the new staff the task to copy paste all animation to other gender and race ... gve him a cookie and it's ok
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dialoonia wrote: »
    I agrre its not that hard. in the end they only copy paste the animation and git gud. I don't see a reason why the shouldn't do that. Seriously just give the new staff the task to copy paste all animation to other gender and race ... gve him a cookie and it's ok

    I would enter the subject of having to debug certain stuff, balancing it a bit better for the different hitboxes and possibly race passives and all... but then I woke up and remembered how it is now so the entire point would be moot.
    Considering Elin Gunner, they kinda did just slap all the same animations from Castanic on a tiny cute package with new weapon draw and idle combat stance and called it a day (honestly tho... damn that Castanic idle combat pose...I wouldn't complain if they copied and pasted that one either).
    Most animations I see aren't girly at all so it could all work on males, same with Brawler (tho come on, they should have changed that death pose!), I frankly think we're already past the point of making unique animations for gender and race, I mean some animations should change between genders (think of Reaper, those spins and all just don't look all that great on males), but the majority of moves are generic enough to work on all. There's basically little to no explanation why Elin Sorcerers float and Humans don't, and so goes. The idle combat stance (in case this therm is confusing, I refer to the moment after weapon is drawn, in-combat stance, but doing nothing) can be unique and honestly think it should be, but the rest... just slap the same and call it a day indeed.

    Even if you consider the latest Elin-only class (Ninja) and check the animations, most/all of them would work on other characters, any of them. Before, we used to have like Elin Priest cutesy spins and b-utt showing plague locks and all, but nowadays new classes come pretty much future-proof in that aspect.


    Also: bring the dance of each race to all races please! Think of Castanics doing Elin dance, that would be awesome
  • All 3 of the people who want male gunners will be thrilled!

    I plan to make a male brawler, and I already have 2 at 65. I didn't care one way or the other about the gender locked, but I'm psyched to play the male one in a couple months.
  • I would love a popo gunner. I can just picture him tumbling backwards after scatter, MM, and BV.
  • Classes are released for the race/gender that generates the most profit from cosmetic sales, male brawler was just an exception. Players wanted the male brawler since the class was announced, same with gunner for elins that apparently was more requested than male version of the class.
  • I just want more classes open to femani. Think about it, the size of the gun fits the amani perfectly and I think ninja should be open to castanics as valk should accept human and elf females. Truthfully there just going with the quick easy dollar and not the long term dollar. Open classes will bring more money in the long run. and a better game with less elins.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    WolfMaster wrote: »
    I just want more classes open to femani. Think about it, the size of the gun fits the amani perfectly and I think ninja should be open to castanics as valk should accept human and elf females. Truthfully there just going with the quick easy dollar and not the long term dollar. Open classes will bring more money in the long run. and a better game with less elins.

    "better game with less elins" hue, here comes another one of those who call all Elin players pedos and so on... Well ain't even gonna care anymore, I'm past that point that is, as far as these two lines are "not caring"

    You say long therm, but well, I will beat the dead horse's zombie till it dies very dead again: Elins were the most played race/gender combination long before they had Reaper even. The only race that beat Elins was Castanics when you combined both females AND males, which by the way were the 2nd most popular female race, and the most popular male race (bellow like all females except Human (I think) and Femani). Oh another note: it wasn't much more than like 10% (or was it like 5?) of difference between Castanics combined vs Elins alone.

    You can argue that the Elins are driving people away from the game cause eeeeww cutesy characters killing stuff! Sickos!! and all, but you just cannot measure potentially lost costumers when you don't ever see any of the CURRENT one's faces even.
    Let's still consider your point valid for sake of argument tho: If bringing more males to counter the current Elin population worked, don't forget that... the tiny big elephant in the room is still there: Elins still exist anyway.
    Now let's bring it WAY FURTHER down to stupidity levels: Delete Elins. OK, now we went full r-t-rded and there's no coming back. They're gone, we've killed thousands of players (and yes, future players) but hey, we got a lot of potential players! Then... don't forget that many of the ones that do HATE Elins and went away from the game because of them, probably ain't that comfortable with Castanics ~slightly vulgar~ attitude and attire. Reminder that we're trying to please that type of audience that screams SJW stuff in Facebook at this point. Heck we've gone as low as deleting a race for it. And... yep, you guessed it: you still can't please people.


    This also does work backwards as well, that some people might hate the idea of exclusive female classes being released for males (think of...well... the same crowd we tried to bring in by removing Elins, the SJWs) by all kinds of muh cultural appropriation crap. But then comes the business sense: it makes more sense to invest into what we got numbers to prove. We don't have anything proving that people want races to be exclusive other than a handful of crazy people screaming that, but we've got some screams of males please, so let's bet on that for now. And another new cute Elin costume please for our server bills this month and my new S-class.
  • male gunner sound cool... i aprove it :+1:
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would love a popo gunner. I can just picture him tumbling backwards after scatter, MM, and BV.

    Ya know, rolling backwards on the recoils of some skills, would be killer. I seriously wanted this on Elins as well but we all know it's just a copy & paste quickie buck, that frankly, I ain't complaining. I got my Castanic gunner in a tiny cute package and that's it, that's what I wanted, and already moved some nice ~5K EMP on her costumes (didn't buy it directly, but still, buying from players = EME earns it).

    Basically... eh the strategy worked. Well, what can I say? It's what I did want anyway. And if that works on Brawler, the quickie copy & paste may see it's roots expanding to other races, which, I do hope.

    Basically, spend in costumes yo, and they'll come. If you can convince the Koreans then even more.

    By the way the costumes makes me thing: why the heck we don't have male school uniforms? They're a thing in manga/anime anyway which is much of the costume inspiration of this game (and WOOO Real life!!).
    Yes. I'm saying the male version they actually wear in Japan and I think Korea too (?), not slapping a skirt on a dude, no thank you.
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