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Remove everything from characters for 1 day.

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  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
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    What changes is that you no longer have to buy the costume again for your alt, as you would have had to do otherwise under the current scheme. So that's why they will "lose profit" as CornishRex said.

    So, as we've discussed many other times on this forum, the only way to offer this sort of service and have it make sense for them is if they charge something for it.

    Don't know if I omitted it by accident, or if it's being misunderstood on mine and OP's point but: you only do it once.
    It's not shuffling around left and right like mad, it's literally only once, you can chose to switch permanently to another character and that's it. That's my view of it, and also as far as I understand, OP's view on it too. You get only one chance to get rid of a dead alt that you thought you were gonna like but not (or got tired of).

    CornishRex wrote: »
    ElinLove wrote: »
    I don't see it that way, because (answering by topic, considering unbind but untradeable):
    a) they're not injecting anything into the market. All you had, is still yours and yours alone. All you can do is change your stuff around. If you still play all characters and don't want to swap anything, no issues for you, nothing changes.

    Ehhh but it won't make me buy more costumes which is eme's end goal in the end. I have a wedding costume on my priest. I also bought one for my brawler cause I like it. Same for some swimsuits/maid/school costumes I have spread over alts that I already have on my mains. If I could shuffle I wouldn't have bought all those costumes.
    Don't get me wrong I think it's a great idea but it goes against what eme stands for. P R O F I T.
    And I don't think it would make people play more, honestly.. In my case and many other guildies cases we usually play more just to grind out more gold for costumes that someone bought with emp. If I could share that specific costume already I wouldn't do that. So idk.

    Maybe it was badly phrased on my comment, but you're not getting more of the same, much less sharing with anyone, just swapping for yourself. You just change from one to another, and only once. You don't get an unbound tradable free to use costume, it's just "liberated" once and that's it. You'll still need as much copies as characters you intend to use it on, and no one else but you can use that costume, it's just about what character will use it next.
    Say you do have one character that you thought you were gonna like but it just wasn't it later on, or got tired of it, then you can change it to another character and then it's again, bound to that new character. Nothing was added, neither you get the chance to swap back again.

    The buying it again with gold or EMP doesn't make a difference in EME's eyes unless they added it to the game via events. Otherwise if you're buying it, you're paying for EMP indirectly. And like above, you'll still need more of it for more characters to use it. If you had one copy only on your Elin Slayer but got tired of it, you can swap it to your Elin Gunner for example, but your Elin Priest will require one more.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Xerses wrote: »
    This is a dumb idea. Many of us have costumes which have more sentimental meaning with the aquisition date. Costumes were meant to be bound for a reason. Used it on the wrong toon? Too bad so sad. Submit a ticket, if you're lucky they'll help you, if not...then learn from your mistake.

    ....tried to understand but I give up.
    Also if they do it my way and just add some item that you can use OR NOT, then it wouldn't change anything. You can just not unbind it.
  • Xerses wrote: »
    This is a dumb idea. Many of us have costumes which have more sentimental meaning with the aquisition date. Costumes were meant to be bound for a reason. Used it on the wrong toon? Too bad so sad. Submit a ticket, if you're lucky they'll help you, if not...then learn from your mistake.

    Pardon me for not playing the same character for more than 3 years , i changed mains a lot to see what i was more comfortable to play with , i've tried using tickets but that doesn't work. My mistake huh
  • EG9W6AAHPP wrote: »
    Do you guys believe that they will lose so much profit with just one day thing?

    It's not something they can just "switch off" for a day anyway, and the amount of grief doing a limited-time event would cause would way exceed any benefit.

    If they were going to ask BHS to program anything related to this, it'd probably be a cosmetic rebind item they can sell. (But even then, as was already mentioned, you also have the race-lock/gender-lock problem.)

    I see , that is indeed something that could possibly happen , but still i don't see how changing race costumes would be a problem , yes they would get a lot of work to do on that specific day , but after that everything would go back to normal. But what you said about BhS is true , that's more like it would happen , since BHS only cares about profit. But what if , just what if , EME doesn't need BHS approval for this , do you believe it would cause more harm than good to its players? i get everyones points here , but as i mentioned since you would not be able to trade them i don't see it as something harmfull to the market itself or the community.
  • edited January 2018
    EG9W6AAHPP wrote: »
    But what if , just what if , EME doesn't need BHS approval for this , do you believe it would cause more harm than good to its players?

    Well, it's not really a question of approval, it's a question of programming. There's no actual way to do this. If you're suggesting that, as a sort of one-day amnesty, everyone would be allowed to send in support tickets to request any rebinds they want... that's not feasible.

    EG9W6AAHPP wrote: »
    yes they would get a lot of work to do on that specific day , but after that everything would go back to normal
    It would take weeks and weeks to manually process all these requests one-by-one. They'd probably have to bring on temporary staff just to do this, because the other requests wouldn't stop coming as well. It's not realistic. Not unless there were some sort of way to automate the process somehow, and even then -- the cost to develop that automation would have to be recovered somehow.

    (The fact they even do costume rebinds at all upon race change is more than any other market for TERA does. In all other markets, you'd just have to buy your costumes again for your new race, or pay again to change races back.)

    The underlying point is still: they want you to buy costumes for your alts. Since people don't buy expansions and aren't required to pay subscriptions, this is one of their primary revenue streams. So it's unlikely that they'll spend their own time/money to do something that makes it less likely for people to give them money -- it's losing money twice.
  • Hum i see , that is indeed a good point.
  • I think the only way they will allow this is by selling a sort of voucher that unbinds your costume of choice, making it untradable but bankable so you may re-bind to another alt. The main issue here is this item should also return the costume, if possible, to it's original smartbox, because if not you'd only be able to re-bind on same race and gender only. I think this is exactly the reason such item doesn't exist. Too much work for them for little proffit, they can just keep on selling you multiple costumes for all your alts, doing no extra work and getting the same reward. So I doubt this will ever happen but you can keep on giving your suggestions, who knows people said we'd never get dragon mounts and there they are :3!
  • Ofc EME loose profit if this happend...

    Example
    - i have dead ninja alt
    - ninja has dyable jeans and jacket
    - i'd prefer the costume on my lancer
    - with the unbound untradable day i move costume to my lancer
    - my ninja is naked

    Now... if they one day unbound didnt happen, i would have to buy a jeans and jacket costume of the brooker or w/e, now ask yourself, where did this costume come from... L-O-O-T-B-O-X-E-S

    So.. because i swapped the costume from my dead ninja to my lancer i dont have to buy another costume, so there is less demand for the item meaning less is sold on brooker and thru lootboxes..

    This is how eme loose out

    Simple solution to this problem is to have lib scrolls remove the soulbound from all items (gear, acc, brooches, inner, costumes) but only once, this way eme get profit, we get our costumes and can delete old dead toons (this way still loose eme money thou as lib scrolls are cheaper then the amount of lootboxes you need for some costumes like jeans jacket, airy auroa, raincoats etc)

    If you cant see how eme loose profit after this then idk how to help you
  • rexoerexoe ✭✭✭
    or make an item to trade/mail on in acc only like stamps or tokens
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    rexoe wrote: »
    or make an item to trade/mail on in acc only like stamps or tokens

    Or make liberation scrolls usable for costumes also.

    I would be more than happy to pay to unbound some costumes from certain characters that I have.
  • That would be great too. And what about mounts , would that be possible too? LIB scroll for both
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    EG9W6AAHPP wrote: »
    That would be great too. And what about mounts , would that be possible too? LIB scroll for both

    For mounts would be even harder because they are bound on your character like a skill not like an item.
  • Of course that they are going to lose so much more profit because if so many players will stuff their alts with costumes then the demand will drop dramatically ( this is exactly why the fashion store was never updated properly ).

    It would be interesting though to have account bound costumes because i would love for example to put my 2017 maid costume on my elin from my human and my frostsilk from my elin on my human changing them every few weeks.. though i also have to say that they are no longer as expensive as they used to be so my alts are more or less done with the fashion :D
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