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Lack of team play on Guardian Legion Quests

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  • I do not know why EU patch note said * Healers get from healed damage.

    But healers don't get contribution from heal (or way less than dps'ing)

    As I commented here. It's 99.9% about dps. If healers do team work..that means they are just volunteering since they do not get anything from team play.

    If @ElinUsagi was complaining about the content itself, that make sense, but if Elin was complaining about players, then it does not make sense.

    Well, if tanks are holding aggro while facing the wall-side, the tanks do not give other people some space to dps behind the boss. That's greedy and it's kinda supposed to be blamed. But if healers are really greedy, they better not to join a raid and do not give any buff to their party members. People get free buffs and aura in guardian zone, but it does not give e sta, AR and GS.
  • Perhaps someone here has never played a Tera healer. Healing is not about dashing out high healing numbers but also support, foresight and compensating for the team.

    Ever run with a good healer e.g. Kalivans? The healers runs around with spores and kills all the adds. The healer leashes people out of the swimming pool. The healer restores mana for the sorcs. This list is endless.

    So, in Guardian the healer has to be in a party/raid. Healing non-members is not contribution. Resurrection is not even worth it (like it was in the BAM events). Every support like filling mana, Kaias or buffing is counterproductive as you want your team mates to take damage/filling mana doesn't pay as it is not healing.

    Change it? Just put everyone in the same raid inside the zone.
    Put up a collective target (e.g. no single contribution but a group one).
    Move the respawn point away, make it a penalty - so people will not play like it's BnS.
    And so on. It's not like we have lots of EXPERIENCE from previous BAM events ....
  • omfg .. stuff is out for like 1.5 hours and u already QQ ? better quit tera and never come back ! u can QQ as much as u want but it wont change anything and eme wont care at all too

    FACE IT !
  • DL7MMWLJ3WDL7MMWLJ3W ✭✭✭✭
    Elinusagi, your reputation from various discords are true!
  • healers getting shafted as usual.

    I agree.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
    Elinusagi, your reputation from various discords are true!

    Perfect reason why us solo players don't bother with this content and why EME can't keep servers full on a f2p game. The attitude and arrogance of some of the players in this game is sad. I can only imagine the griping and bullying going on with the discords. Such a shame how people act over a game.
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    Christin wrote: »
    Perfect reason why us solo players don't bother with this content and why EME can't keep servers full on a f2p game. The attitude and arrogance of some of the players in this game is sad. I can only imagine the griping and bullying going on with the discords. Such a shame how people act over a game.

    Solo players? This is an MMO. lol...

    Secondly, guardian quests are just supposed to be things you can do while WAITING for an LFG shout, or a queue, or when you've run out of VGs. It's additional content. Healer's already have little wait for queues, and first pick for LFGs. Healers aren't having problems finishing their 16 VGs.

    Guardian missions last about 5 minutes. If you really want it that badly, put on DPS crystals and change your glyphs and do dps! If you want to heal while you do it... shocker... MAKE AN LFG and heal the people in it.

    There is literally no reason to complain about these missions. If Usagi is having problems with people on her block list not healing her, that's a personal issue, and not a game design issue. If she acts in game in any modicum of a way like she does here, then I suspect I know why they aren't healing her.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    [...]
    Healer's already have little wait for queues, and first pick for LFGs. Healers aren't having problems finishing their 16 VGs.
    [...]

    Oh I wish the world was such a beautiful place...
    We lack tanks instead, those are the ones that take the cake and extra icing.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    Christin wrote: »
    Perfect reason why us solo players don't bother with this content and why EME can't keep servers full on a f2p game. The attitude and arrogance of some of the players in this game is sad. I can only imagine the griping and bullying going on with the discords. Such a shame how people act over a game.

    Solo players? This is an MMO. lol...

    Secondly, guardian quests are just supposed to be things you can do while WAITING for an LFG shout, or a queue, or when you've run out of VGs. It's additional content. Healer's already have little wait for queues, and first pick for LFGs. Healers aren't having problems finishing their 16 VGs.

    Guardian missions last about 5 minutes. If you really want it that badly, put on DPS crystals and change your glyphs and do dps! If you want to heal while you do it... shocker... MAKE AN LFG and heal the people in it.

    There is literally no reason to complain about these missions. If Usagi is having problems with people on her block list not healing her, that's a personal issue, and not a game design issue. If she acts in game in any modicum of a way like she does here, then I suspect I know why they aren't healing her.

    Does it make you feel more important when you dictate what we can and cannot do? Multiplayer means a game in which people are playing on the same server. It doesn't dictate what I do or don't do in the game. If that were the case, this game wouldn't have solo questing!

    Nice to know most players don't follow your orders. Bet you run around yelling at them while they stand there afk. WTG you!
  • Secondly, guardian quests are just supposed to be things you can do while WAITING for an LFG shout, or a queue, or when you've run out of VGs. It's additional content. Healer's already have little wait for queues, and first pick for LFGs. Healers aren't having problems finishing their 16 VGs.

    Guardian missions last about 5 minutes. If you really want it that badly, put on DPS crystals and change your glyphs and do dps! If you want to heal while you do it... shocker... MAKE AN LFG and heal the people in it.

    I was trying to take you seriously, but I cant.

    First off, you must be mistaken healers with tanks.
    i can wait for 30 min+ for a LFG or a queue for any Dungeon as a healer, i dont have that many hours in a day to get 16VGs done.

    People have the right to say whatever they feel is wrong, and you can scream and shout all you want but it wont change the fact that again healers dont have the same treatment as the rest in this case and I bet most of us would like to be able to do what we are meant to do, support teams, and being rewarded for that work.
    Because you know... shocker... WE ARE HEALERS.

    In this case yes, we will put on DPS crystals, we will change our glyphs and do dps, and probably will ignore every single person around saying "HEAL", but it wont change the fact that we dont get the same contribution as any of the other classes and we cant even be rewarded for doing the job our class is supposed to do.

    Can you get your head out of that hole in the ground and acknowledge that people have motives to be upset? Or you really like to go in every post and get all fired up?




  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    I have read a thread about what does healers and tanks need in other to get guardian credits, it is clearly that I may have missunderstood the healers and tanks behaviour in this new content because they don't get credits if they don't do damage. Even if I had an argument with a couple of them in the past this is just what most people would do on a content that will only give you credits for the damage you make.

    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/20970/guide-to-accessing-guardian-shop#latest

    https://forums.enmasse.com/tera/discussion/20972/quick-info-clarification-about-guardian-missions-that-people-are-confused#latest

    If things are like that then no wonder why they end up chosing to continue doing damage rather healing continuosly to keep the dps burning the boss healt.
  • PartyblastPartyblast ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2018
    Honestly don't know why you expected BHS to actually give healers points for ykno....healing. It's always been the same for almost every event released it's all damage based contribution, thankfully healers have a damage buff towards open world BAMs so we're not completely screwed. I always enjoy DPS priesting so it's nothing new to me, holding top spot in most of the missions I go to and got my 40 boxes in little to no time :+1:

    As for DPS, just learn the mechanics of each boss fight in the missions and you should be fine, it's the same as any dungeon but in this case most attacks stun so you'd want to avoid them anyways instead of face tanking and letting the healer babysit you .-.
  • I have tried to heal on my priest and i was not getting any points but luckily it was just an alt and whoever says to put on some decent gear and some crystals is kinda .... because you have to compete with mains that have perfect setups with SC gear and you will end up at the bottom quite fast ( my brawler will have +7SC weapon soon and its hilarious to see a priest with twistshard trying to compete with me ).

    RIP Priest mains..
  • PagesPages ✭✭✭✭
    HLK76PFWXT wrote: »
    I have tried to heal on my priest and i was not getting any points but luckily it was just an alt and whoever says to put on some decent gear and some crystals is kinda .... because you have to compete with mains that have perfect setups with SC gear and you will end up at the bottom quite fast ( my brawler will have +7SC weapon soon and its hilarious to see a priest with twistshard trying to compete with me ).

    RIP Priest mains..

    The ranking on the side doesn't matter. You get points based on damage, and from experience my Priest gets points at about the same rate as my Valkyrie in slightly weaker gear.

    So, yes, healers are getting shafted with this, and no, healing does not generate points. The only solution if you want to do it on a healer is to put on DPS crystals/gear and just whack the boss. Your damage is irrelevant but you'll get points towards boxes for it. If you have alts in similar gear though, I can almost guarantee they'll finish faster.
  • RathgarRathgar ✭✭✭
    It's the first day! Can't we pin at least some of the "lack" of teamwork on us all learning the events/BAMs haha.

    I can already see the stuff I'm doing wrong and as I'm more practiced/patient I shouldn't need as much healing as I did tonight.
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