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As someone who farms hard content, i have no way to keep funding my noctenium usage. There's not even an option of buying superior nocs with gold, its insane. Why is this even an issue in our region? Blue nocs are essential free hand outs in other regions. Why do you want it to be harder here @clfarron4 ? I can have all the normal nocteniums in the world but I cannot make them superior. Even if i wanted to make normal nocs into uncommon blues, i need a ton of vanguards to buy those expensive refiners WHICH ONLY LASTS 15 MINUTES. An RKEM run takes almost twice the time and thats not counting wipes.
Then three proposals should be put forward to @seandynamite for the updates to the Vanguard Credit Merchants:
1) Lower the VG credit cost of Noctenium Refiners. Maybe this should be done as part of a lowering of the cost of more than a few items in the credits store.
2) Make the refiners available for high tiers of nocts available in the VG credit merchant. On release on EU, the corresponding refiners cost:
In my opinion, #4 Shouldnt even be an option, triple Vanguard rewards is simply not enough. We need a more direct way of giving us nocs. And as i stated before, only uncommon refiners are in vanguard, those are not good at all; we need superior nocs. Why make obtaining harder to obtain? It should be easy lol just as it is in every region.
As it stands, i don't think our way of obtaining superior nocs should be tied to vanguard at ALL. It should just be a dungeon drop. Not everyone likes spamming 16 vanguards a day doing super boring content. Can i just run content that i find enjoyable and actually get rewarded?
I'm only trying to propose stuff that would increase the amount of nocts that we get in the game, while staying away from the "freebie" idea that seandynamite seems to be wanting to really stay away from.
The community should really give voice to this. Our noc situation is really bad
First thing, should be good if we could get a single version of nocteriums instead of "Friendly Nocteriums" from Guardian missions, "Federation Nocteriums" from Vanguard missions (those whom you get from completing several vanguards) and the normal version; because you can't combine them to create a blue version if you don't have 500 from each version.
Yeah this is what pisses me off the most I think. They keep making more and more different types of nocts that all are the exact same, but with different names so they cannot be used together for stuff like combining to make more blue nocts. They really just need to make it all 1 type of noct which should be the tradeable ones so people who don't use them can sell them and help the market.
Why not just add the tiers of noctenium to VG rewards according to dungeon difficulty?
Ex:
2 stars: regular noc
3 stars: uncommon
4 stars: rare
5 stars: superior
The amount supplied would vary of course but it would make it easier to obtain
The only other solution would be to add refiners to the VG store.
I am also in agreement with making only one type of the basic noctenium instead of these multiple types that don’t stack. It makes it needlessly difficult to use the refiners when trying to convert.
Why not just add the tiers of noctenium to VG rewards according to dungeon difficulty?
Ex:
2 stars: regular noc
3 stars: uncommon
4 stars: rare
5 stars: superior
The amount supplied would vary of course but it would make it easier to obtain
The only other solution would be to add refiners to the VG store.
I am also in agreement with making only one type of the basic noctenium instead of these multiple types that don’t stack. It makes it needlessly difficult to use the refiners when trying to convert.
The refiner prices would need to be adjusted because the crappy one in there already costs way too much. I think just giving them as VG rewards as you suggested makes the most sense, because newer players might not even know refiners exist, might as well just cut out the middleman.
Why not just add the tiers of noctenium to VG rewards according to dungeon difficulty?
Ex:
2 stars: regular noc
3 stars: uncommon
4 stars: rare
5 stars: superior
The amount supplied would vary of course but it would make it easier to obtain
The only other solution would be to add refiners to the VG store.
I am also in agreement with making only one type of the basic noctenium instead of these multiple types that don’t stack. It makes it needlessly difficult to use the refiners when trying to convert.
The refiner prices would need to be adjusted because the crappy one in there already costs way too much. I think just giving them as VG rewards as you suggested makes the most sense, because newer players might not even know refiners exist, might as well just cut out the middleman.
Add nocteriums at Vanguard Shop and make Refiner a permanent drop from dungeons according of their stars.
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Then three proposals should be put forward to @seandynamite for the updates to the Vanguard Credit Merchants:
1) Lower the VG credit cost of Noctenium Refiners. Maybe this should be done as part of a lowering of the cost of more than a few items in the credits store.
2) Make the refiners available for high tiers of nocts available in the VG credit merchant. On release on EU, the corresponding refiners cost:
3) Keep the permanent double Vanguard Rewards, because everyone was actually happy with those.
As it stands, i don't think our way of obtaining superior nocs should be tied to vanguard at ALL. It should just be a dungeon drop. Not everyone likes spamming 16 vanguards a day doing super boring content. Can i just run content that i find enjoyable and actually get rewarded?
Yeah this is what pisses me off the most I think. They keep making more and more different types of nocts that all are the exact same, but with different names so they cannot be used together for stuff like combining to make more blue nocts. They really just need to make it all 1 type of noct which should be the tradeable ones so people who don't use them can sell them and help the market.
You can easily send out nocts instead of an hp potion..
This is the EU reward thing, you get 50 tokens for each clear in rkem.
Ex:
2 stars: regular noc
3 stars: uncommon
4 stars: rare
5 stars: superior
The amount supplied would vary of course but it would make it easier to obtain
The only other solution would be to add refiners to the VG store.
I am also in agreement with making only one type of the basic noctenium instead of these multiple types that don’t stack. It makes it needlessly difficult to use the refiners when trying to convert.
The refiner prices would need to be adjusted because the crappy one in there already costs way too much. I think just giving them as VG rewards as you suggested makes the most sense, because newer players might not even know refiners exist, might as well just cut out the middleman.
Add nocteriums at Vanguard Shop and make Refiner a permanent drop from dungeons according of their stars.