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Would it make sense for Korea to allow brawlers to use gender change vouchers, but not NA?

wut????? i stg if they dont let us Q_Q
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  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's not about making sense usually. It's about... what even is it about?

    I mean the deal about costumes being manually swapped is the definitive default answer, but then again when you think about things that make sense or not, K-TERA still has Elin Gunner as the one time creation thing (correct me if I'm wrong).

    I suspect it won't be available at 1st, but then after like 2 months or so, they may allow it.
  • > @ElinLove said:
    > It's not about making sense usually. It's about... what even is it about?
    >
    > I mean the deal about costumes being manually swapped is the definitive default answer, but then again when you think about things that make sense or not, K-TERA still has Elin Gunner as the one time creation thing (correct me if I'm wrong).
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    > I suspect it won't be available at 1st, but then after like 2 months or so, they may allow it.

    Elins are already female. Race and gender are different.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    ADT6W6PE3P wrote: »
    > ElinLove said:
    > It's not about making sense usually. It's about... what even is it about?
    >
    > I mean the deal about costumes being manually swapped is the definitive default answer, but then again when you think about things that make sense or not, K-TERA still has Elin Gunner as the one time creation thing (correct me if I'm wrong).
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    > I suspect it won't be available at 1st, but then after like 2 months or so, they may allow it.

    Elins are already female. Race and gender are different.

    At the technical level, I would say it's actually easier to race change Elins and Castanics/elves instead of gender changing. In the end your character on the server is all the same: Class, race, gender (inside the race), the bunch of slider settings, your inventory and equipped/bound stuff, level and the gameplay related information (glyphs, achievements and such), unique ID (which will stay when you swap gender or race), and shown name. You'll be resetting the selected race and/or gender combination pretty much the same way for any of them, there's no real technical difficulty once you have the ability to change one of those in server. Heck they could allow a hair change voucher alone, they could probably allow a class change voucher, they just don't have it. Male, female, race, all just a small bit/byte on the server.

    Changing between genders introduces much more costumes issues than between races same gender: Some few costumes are exclusive to Elin, but the majority of the costumes from other females are available on Elin or have a counterpart that is. Not the same with females to males transition.

    You could say that just not allowing costume manual swap would do the trick, and yes it would but then again people would nag about it since they could do for other races before.

    Proof that race change is possible (and easy enough) for Elin Gunners is that EU does it. And the above paragraph can be given as reason why we aren't doing it yet.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    BHS was some what inteligent with the Gunner be avaliable for Elins.

    Now they have shared a class with the 3 most played gender/races.

    Let's see what happens with Brawler...
  • Hopefully they play this smart and let brawlers gender change.
  • Look KTera did not make elin gunner race-changable so EME did the same and KTera made male brawler gender-changable so we are getting same. It's in the patch, EME got no choice about it. Why are people even saying that it would not happen is beyond me.
  • > @TheDarkWan said:
    > Look KTera did not make elin gunner race-changable so EME did the same and KTera made male brawler gender-changable so we are getting same. It's in the patch, EME got no choice about it. Why are people even saying that it would not happen is beyond me. That’s a good point lol
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    TheDarkWan wrote: »
    Look KTera did not make elin gunner race-changable so EME did the same and KTera made male brawler gender-changable so we are getting same. It's in the patch, EME got no choice about it. Why are people even saying that it would not happen is beyond me.

    EU has Elin Gunner race changeable, besides if we were to copy K-TERA it would be limited time creation which it isn't.

    We ARE getting somewhat different stuff from other regions.

    There is NO technical limitation change your Human Female Brawler to a male one, neither is there any limitation to race change your Gunner to and from an Elin. The class exists in the game? It can be done. The race AND gender changers exist? It can be done easier.
    Like I said and everyone who sees those topics would have seen: it's likely about costumes.
  • @ElinLove when male brawler comes, the gender change is in the patch given to us by KTera. KTera did not make or release race change to elin gunner so EUTera had to make the patch themselves. When male brawler patch comes, If EME wants to stop it they must change the patch manually which will require programing it themselves. If they did that then we are defiantly have an enemy in EME.
  • edited February 2018
    TheDarkWan wrote: »
    @ElinLove when male brawler comes, the gender change is in the patch given to us by KTera. KTera did not make or release race change to elin gunner so EUTera had to make the patch themselves. When male brawler patch comes, If EME wants to stop it they must change the patch manually which will require programing it themselves. If they did that then we are defiantly have an enemy in EME.

    I really don't think Gameforge patched this themselves; most likely, they asked BHS and BHS changed it for them.

    Again, other regions are happy to have people change because they have to buy all their cosmetics again. In our region it doesn't work that way (they change costumes as a manual service). So whatever happens or doesn't happen in other regions won't necessarily be the deciding factor on what happens here.
  • NA could very well allow a gender change once we get male brawlers. I wouldn't count on them being willing to change your costumes for you if they do allow it tho.
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    Fanciful wrote: »
    NA could very well allow a gender change once we get male brawlers. I wouldn't count on them being willing to change your costumes for you if they do allow it tho.

    This, you can't have both, especially since no server does both.

    That is the reason I'd rather the gender change to not be allowed from the get go, because people will complain about stuff pertaining to the switch of costumes.
  • I don't understand, when things aren't making players happy EME is so fast to say "EME is just a publisher, we have no control over the game" but now according to @counterpoint EME controls the game. So which is it EME controls it or not? what does EME control? We need to know so we can at least plain ahead, instead we are making assumptions based on no nothing. I would like a CM post to help us players put this issue to an end. @seandynamite @CobaltDragon
  • edited February 2018
    TheDarkWan wrote: »
    I don't understand, when things aren't making players happy EME is so fast to say "EME is just a publisher, we have no control over the game" but now according to @counterpoint EME controls the game. So which is it EME controls it or not? what does EME control?

    It's not about control. It's about market decisions made between BHS and each region's publisher. Neither party alone makes the decision entirely by themselves. So Gameforge and BHS could agree something makes sense for them, but the same thing would not make sense for BHS and EME (because of local market differences, like how costumes are handled during race/gender change). The decision to allow or not allow race change is a monetary decision that impacts both BHS and the publisher.
  • Idi0ticGeniusIdi0ticGenius ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gender changeable or not, I'd still make another Brawler with male since there would be event for it anyways. Maybe they'll unlock it later eventually if it does get locked, but I can tell you that female apparently has slight advantage with longer reach, while males are more advantageous for high ping players who desync as they have shorter reach.

    Not to mention, male brawler has same animation as female except idle pose (they don't even have any new animation for that matter). If you like male brawler laying down like one of those french ladies, the go for it.
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