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Stop complaining about TERA events

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  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    vkobe wrote: »
    well we pay to support the game, now if the game stop to support us we lost interest to spend $ for them, it is not like they lost something when they trade their pixels costumes for our real $

    and be alone with shining dress is pointless when you cant show your dress to your friends

    Oh, is that so?
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3

    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    What did you not get from those $500?

    Everything I have paid for I have got it delivered or got striaght to my account/character.

    I mean, you paid and complain becuase you didn't get what you paid for, so would you be kind to tell us what you didn't get?

    well 500$ to no have lag seem too much for them, 500$ to have nice event seem to much too for them, so we complaint

    of course the dude who spent thousands $ in loot box and doesnt get what he want has more reasons than me to be angry, but anyway :3

    Those post make the idea that you can pay to get events so that's why I am asking for.

    Anyway you already ignored what I have said in another thread about this and went straight to call me white knight when you don't even care if I agree or not with people complaing.

    So I will refresh your memory, several months back I said you don't need to pay to get the right to complain but some people main objective is not even complain but to get at EME or whoever that doesn't have the same opinion as them.

    I am pretty sure that was more easy to call another person white knight overlooking the fact that you don't pay to get what you say you paid to get.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    well we pay to support the game, now if the game stop to support us we lost interest to spend $ for them, it is not like they lost something when they trade their pixels costumes for our real $

    and be alone with shining dress is pointless when you cant show your dress to your friends

    Oh, is that so?
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3

    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    What did you not get from those $500?

    Everything I have paid for I have got it delivered or got striaght to my account/character.

    I mean, you paid and complain becuase you didn't get what you paid for, so would you be kind to tell us what you didn't get?

    well 500$ to no have lag seem too much for them, 500$ to have nice event seem to much too for them, so we complaint

    of course the dude who spent thousands $ in loot box and doesnt get what he want has more reasons than me to be angry, but anyway :3

    Those post make the idea that you can pay to get events so that's why I am asking for.

    Anyway you already ignored what I have said in another thread about this and went straight to call me white knight when you don't even care if I agree or not with people complaing.

    So I will refresh your memory, several months back I said you don't need to pay to get the right to complain but some people main objective is not even complain but to get at EME or whoever that doesn't have the same opinion as them.

    I am pretty sure that was more easy to call another person white knight overlooking the fact that you don't pay to get what you say you paid to get.

    yes we pay only for one thing =) , of course we dont pay for more and event is one of them and like i said it is not like it cost something for them to give us a pixel costume, so it is more the service we pay than the pixel dress we buy

    well you respond to my post first, so i answer to you, it is to OP i answer not you, i dont care what do you think until you respond me

    dont worry i remember this post, it is why i said you pay 5000$ in this same post you said that, now i never say than someone else cant complaint, i answer to OP when he said we cant complaint

    well if i remember i said we pay so we have the right to complaint when the service suck and off course you are the first to jump on me, so it is why you are white knight, anyway elite players pay for service and i am pretty sure they expected some nice events and not to be insulted by enmasse, we dont ask a 365 days 24h/24 events, we just ask some nice events for special time, for exemple christmas, valentine day, tera anniversary i dont think we ask too much and since 2 years enmasse was unable to do that, so us the cow milk we complaint about that :)
  • PartyblastPartyblast ✭✭✭✭
    Complaining about complaints :+1:
    Preeest wrote: »
    ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    Also they ended the current lag caused by the event, but there will always be lag issues and we will definitely see it in the future since this is an online game, especially given BHS' track record and the fact EmE's hamsters aren't fed enough or were fed too much and are just too fat to spin the wheel.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    well we pay to support the game, now if the game stop to support us we lost interest to spend $ for them, it is not like they lost something when they trade their pixels costumes for our real $

    and be alone with shining dress is pointless when you cant show your dress to your friends

    Oh, is that so?
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3

    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    What did you not get from those $500?

    Everything I have paid for I have got it delivered or got striaght to my account/character.

    I mean, you paid and complain becuase you didn't get what you paid for, so would you be kind to tell us what you didn't get?

    well 500$ to no have lag seem too much for them, 500$ to have nice event seem to much too for them, so we complaint

    of course the dude who spent thousands $ in loot box and doesnt get what he want has more reasons than me to be angry, but anyway :3

    Those post make the idea that you can pay to get events so that's why I am asking for.

    Anyway you already ignored what I have said in another thread about this and went straight to call me white knight when you don't even care if I agree or not with people complaing.

    So I will refresh your memory, several months back I said you don't need to pay to get the right to complain but some people main objective is not even complain but to get at EME or whoever that doesn't have the same opinion as them.

    I am pretty sure that was more easy to call another person white knight overlooking the fact that you don't pay to get what you say you paid to get.

    yes we pay only for one thing =) , of course we dont pay for more and event is one of them and like i said it is not like it cost something for them to give us a pixel costume, so it is more the service we pay than the pixel dress we buy

    well you respond to my post first, so i answer to you, it is to OP i answer not you, i dont care what do you think until you respond me

    dont worry i remember this post, it is why i said you pay 5000$ in this same post you said that, now i never say than someone else cant complaint, i answer to OP when he said we cant complaint

    well if i remember i said we pay so we have the right to complaint when the service suck and off course you are the first to jump on me, so it is why you are white knight, anyway elite players pay for service and i am pretty sure they expected some nice events and not to be insulted by enmasse, we dont ask a 365 days 24h/24 events, we just ask some nice events for special time, for exemple christmas, valentine day, tera anniversary i dont think we ask too much and since 2 years enmasse was unable to do that, so us the cow milk we complaint about that :)

    Buying elite or buying costumes =/= paying for events or "something else nice" aside from the thing you are paying for.

    I think Margareth made a well made example abaout quality of service and quality of product.

    If you pay for something and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund, if you pay for something in a public bussiness where service is part of the fee you are paying and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund.

    Aside from that if the service is not of your liking then why you should spent money on the game? That only lead to think that you are satisfied with what you have paid for if you keep spending money.

    You can call me whatever you want but it is obvious you came here in this forum to get at EME or another people that doesnt think as you think and trow the "I have paid to get better services", "I expect to get events I like for the money I paid", those are really ridiculous arguments on a game that is FREE TO PLAY.

    As the model implies you don't have to pay a cent to be able to play because the SERVICE is FREE and you DON'T PAY FOR IT.
  • I think the money question should be set aside entirely. In a free-to-play game, everyone invests their time, and that time is what the game makers primarily ask you to invest. Time is a valuable investment. It's also the only thing that 90%+ of players will ever invest (very few will ever pay anthing monetarily). You don't have to spend money to be a customer or to have something at stake. And when people have invested their time in the game, it makes sense that they get upset when the service provided is not up to a standard they deem acceptable.

    It's not like people who've spent a lot of money on this game therefore have "more right" to complain about the overall service (except, obviously, related to the specific things they paid for).
    But similarly, it's not like people who have spent $0 on this game should just have to shut up and take whatever they can get (and be grateful!)

    At the end of the day, people need to be constructive in their criticism and keep things in perspective, but how much money they have or haven't spent on TERA doesn't matter.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    well we pay to support the game, now if the game stop to support us we lost interest to spend $ for them, it is not like they lost something when they trade their pixels costumes for our real $

    and be alone with shining dress is pointless when you cant show your dress to your friends

    Oh, is that so?
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3

    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    What did you not get from those $500?

    Everything I have paid for I have got it delivered or got striaght to my account/character.

    I mean, you paid and complain becuase you didn't get what you paid for, so would you be kind to tell us what you didn't get?

    well 500$ to no have lag seem too much for them, 500$ to have nice event seem to much too for them, so we complaint

    of course the dude who spent thousands $ in loot box and doesnt get what he want has more reasons than me to be angry, but anyway :3

    Those post make the idea that you can pay to get events so that's why I am asking for.

    Anyway you already ignored what I have said in another thread about this and went straight to call me white knight when you don't even care if I agree or not with people complaing.

    So I will refresh your memory, several months back I said you don't need to pay to get the right to complain but some people main objective is not even complain but to get at EME or whoever that doesn't have the same opinion as them.

    I am pretty sure that was more easy to call another person white knight overlooking the fact that you don't pay to get what you say you paid to get.

    yes we pay only for one thing =) , of course we dont pay for more and event is one of them and like i said it is not like it cost something for them to give us a pixel costume, so it is more the service we pay than the pixel dress we buy

    well you respond to my post first, so i answer to you, it is to OP i answer not you, i dont care what do you think until you respond me

    dont worry i remember this post, it is why i said you pay 5000$ in this same post you said that, now i never say than someone else cant complaint, i answer to OP when he said we cant complaint

    well if i remember i said we pay so we have the right to complaint when the service suck and off course you are the first to jump on me, so it is why you are white knight, anyway elite players pay for service and i am pretty sure they expected some nice events and not to be insulted by enmasse, we dont ask a 365 days 24h/24 events, we just ask some nice events for special time, for exemple christmas, valentine day, tera anniversary i dont think we ask too much and since 2 years enmasse was unable to do that, so us the cow milk we complaint about that :)

    Buying elite or buying costumes =/= paying for events or "something else nice" aside from the thing you are paying for.

    I think Margareth made a well made example abaout quality of service and quality of product.

    If you pay for something and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund, if you pay for something in a public bussiness where service is part of the fee you are paying and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund.

    Aside from that if the service is not of your liking then why you should spent money on the game? That only lead to think that you are satisfied with what you have paid for if you keep spending money.

    You can call me whatever you want but it is obvious you came here in this forum to get at EME or another people that doesnt think as you think and trow the "I have paid to get better services", "I expect to get events I like for the money I paid", those are really ridiculous arguments on a game that is FREE TO PLAY.

    As the model implies you don't have to pay a cent to be able to play because the SERVICE is FREE and you DON'T PAY FOR IT.

    event is one of the service we have

    i dont expect a refund and will never ask this and anyway it is no like i can ask for refund for my pc video game or electricity bill or internet or wathever

    i spent money on this game, because before i was happy or expected a improvment, i never said i will alway do that, but thanks to convince me to stop to spend money on tera :)

    we support this free to play so we have the right to ask good service and complaint when the quality decrease and event is one of the service, off course they have the right to remove this service and we have the right to complaint when they do that

    without us this model will bankrupt and tera would gone since long time ago, so the free2play we support it with our $, now thanks to ask to the customer to stop to spend $ on tera we will see how many time tera will stay open without customers :)
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    well we pay to support the game, now if the game stop to support us we lost interest to spend $ for them, it is not like they lost something when they trade their pixels costumes for our real $

    and be alone with shining dress is pointless when you cant show your dress to your friends

    Oh, is that so?
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3

    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    What did you not get from those $500?

    Everything I have paid for I have got it delivered or got striaght to my account/character.

    I mean, you paid and complain becuase you didn't get what you paid for, so would you be kind to tell us what you didn't get?

    well 500$ to no have lag seem too much for them, 500$ to have nice event seem to much too for them, so we complaint

    of course the dude who spent thousands $ in loot box and doesnt get what he want has more reasons than me to be angry, but anyway :3

    Those post make the idea that you can pay to get events so that's why I am asking for.

    Anyway you already ignored what I have said in another thread about this and went straight to call me white knight when you don't even care if I agree or not with people complaing.

    So I will refresh your memory, several months back I said you don't need to pay to get the right to complain but some people main objective is not even complain but to get at EME or whoever that doesn't have the same opinion as them.

    I am pretty sure that was more easy to call another person white knight overlooking the fact that you don't pay to get what you say you paid to get.

    yes we pay only for one thing =) , of course we dont pay for more and event is one of them and like i said it is not like it cost something for them to give us a pixel costume, so it is more the service we pay than the pixel dress we buy

    well you respond to my post first, so i answer to you, it is to OP i answer not you, i dont care what do you think until you respond me

    dont worry i remember this post, it is why i said you pay 5000$ in this same post you said that, now i never say than someone else cant complaint, i answer to OP when he said we cant complaint

    well if i remember i said we pay so we have the right to complaint when the service suck and off course you are the first to jump on me, so it is why you are white knight, anyway elite players pay for service and i am pretty sure they expected some nice events and not to be insulted by enmasse, we dont ask a 365 days 24h/24 events, we just ask some nice events for special time, for exemple christmas, valentine day, tera anniversary i dont think we ask too much and since 2 years enmasse was unable to do that, so us the cow milk we complaint about that :)

    Buying elite or buying costumes =/= paying for events or "something else nice" aside from the thing you are paying for.

    I think Margareth made a well made example abaout quality of service and quality of product.

    If you pay for something and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund, if you pay for something in a public bussiness where service is part of the fee you are paying and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund.

    Aside from that if the service is not of your liking then why you should spent money on the game? That only lead to think that you are satisfied with what you have paid for if you keep spending money.

    You can call me whatever you want but it is obvious you came here in this forum to get at EME or another people that doesnt think as you think and trow the "I have paid to get better services", "I expect to get events I like for the money I paid", those are really ridiculous arguments on a game that is FREE TO PLAY.

    As the model implies you don't have to pay a cent to be able to play because the SERVICE is FREE and you DON'T PAY FOR IT.

    event is one of the service we have

    i dont expect a refund and will never ask this and anyway it is no like i can ask for refund for my pc video game or electricity bill or internet or wathever

    i spent money on this game, because before i was happy or expected a improvment, i never said i will alway do that, but thanks to convince me to stop to spend money on tera :)

    we support this free to play so we have the right to ask good service and complaint when the quality decrease and event is one of the service, off course they have the right to remove this service and we have the right to complaint when they do that

    without us this model will bankrupt and tera would gone since long time ago, so the free2play we support it with our $, now thanks to ask to the customer to stop to spend $ on tera we will see how many time tera will stay open without customers :)

    And yet you still are confused, I never said you don't have rights to complain, anyway you even avoid the fact about what you said in this thread but I is a good start to open you eyes and stop doing something that doesn't satisfy you.

    And about customers, do you know that a costumer that keep complaining in the wrong way hurts a bussiness more than anything?

    Believe me, I have kicked customers from my bussiness and even neglected service to those who likes to trow at me tantrums for silly reasons and believe me that the bussiness are doing better than ever.

    There is a diference to have a complain from a costumer about something reasonable and in a proper manner, where I have fired people for neglecting their activities or doing them in a way that should not be, I have accepted complains from customers when the quality of product is not satisfactory and if that issue need to be scalated to my providers I do, I even changed providers due to customers feedback.

    But having a customer that tries to step over my employees integrity and shouting in a disrespectful manner because a minor issue has made me kick out those customers and even calling the police when they refuse to leave the building.

    Sadly here over the internet anonimity protects people that likes to abuse because they won't receive proper punishment for their actions and sadly internet on-line games, specially small companies, are always the ones to loss the most because of those deviants.

    If bussiness were to give up on "customers" complains ever then believe me that no bussiness will be able to be bussiness at all, because the amount of ridiculous complains people likes to trown mindlessly.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    Margarethe wrote: »
    I think the money question should be set aside entirely. In a free-to-play game, everyone invests their time, and that time is what the game makers primarily ask you to invest. Time is a valuable investment. It's also the only thing that 90%+ of players will ever invest (very few will ever pay anthing monetarily). You don't have to spend money to be a customer or to have something at stake. And when people have invested their time in the game, it makes sense that they get upset when the service provided is not up to a standard they deem acceptable.

    It's not like people who've spent a lot of money on this game therefore have "more right" to complain about the overall service (except, obviously, related to the specific things they paid for).
    But similarly, it's not like people who have spent $0 on this game should just have to shut up and take whatever they can get (and be grateful!)

    At the end of the day, people need to be constructive in their criticism and keep things in perspective, but how much money they have or haven't spent on TERA doesn't matter.

    Fully agree.
    However, difficult to keep being constructive when it feels like players are not heard at all.

    I am pretty sure that is not only the players, also EME staff have said in the past (Tonka if anyone rememebers) how frustrating was to pass feedback and being neglected to get answers to questions, fixes to issues.

    Being tied from hands and feet feels really bad when you don't have the power to fix even issues that may look small.
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    well we pay to support the game, now if the game stop to support us we lost interest to spend $ for them, it is not like they lost something when they trade their pixels costumes for our real $

    and be alone with shining dress is pointless when you cant show your dress to your friends

    Oh, is that so?
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    vkobe wrote: »
    Preeest wrote: »
    we should really stop complaining about how the events are and at least give them some praise for the effort we are starting to see in the community. this is just the begging, so spamming chat with "[filtered] event" and "teras dead [filtered] staff gg" isnt going to help. ( let me just add im not talking about when we get server wide lag, tera staff ended that and im pretty sure we wont be seeing that in the future.)

    stop complaining and be happy that we are starting to see some changes

    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3

    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    What did you not get from those $500?

    Everything I have paid for I have got it delivered or got striaght to my account/character.

    I mean, you paid and complain becuase you didn't get what you paid for, so would you be kind to tell us what you didn't get?

    well 500$ to no have lag seem too much for them, 500$ to have nice event seem to much too for them, so we complaint

    of course the dude who spent thousands $ in loot box and doesnt get what he want has more reasons than me to be angry, but anyway :3

    Those post make the idea that you can pay to get events so that's why I am asking for.

    Anyway you already ignored what I have said in another thread about this and went straight to call me white knight when you don't even care if I agree or not with people complaing.

    So I will refresh your memory, several months back I said you don't need to pay to get the right to complain but some people main objective is not even complain but to get at EME or whoever that doesn't have the same opinion as them.

    I am pretty sure that was more easy to call another person white knight overlooking the fact that you don't pay to get what you say you paid to get.

    yes we pay only for one thing =) , of course we dont pay for more and event is one of them and like i said it is not like it cost something for them to give us a pixel costume, so it is more the service we pay than the pixel dress we buy

    well you respond to my post first, so i answer to you, it is to OP i answer not you, i dont care what do you think until you respond me

    dont worry i remember this post, it is why i said you pay 5000$ in this same post you said that, now i never say than someone else cant complaint, i answer to OP when he said we cant complaint

    well if i remember i said we pay so we have the right to complaint when the service suck and off course you are the first to jump on me, so it is why you are white knight, anyway elite players pay for service and i am pretty sure they expected some nice events and not to be insulted by enmasse, we dont ask a 365 days 24h/24 events, we just ask some nice events for special time, for exemple christmas, valentine day, tera anniversary i dont think we ask too much and since 2 years enmasse was unable to do that, so us the cow milk we complaint about that :)

    Buying elite or buying costumes =/= paying for events or "something else nice" aside from the thing you are paying for.

    I think Margareth made a well made example abaout quality of service and quality of product.

    If you pay for something and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund, if you pay for something in a public bussiness where service is part of the fee you are paying and that doesn't meet a quality standar by law you are entitled to get a refund.

    Aside from that if the service is not of your liking then why you should spent money on the game? That only lead to think that you are satisfied with what you have paid for if you keep spending money.

    You can call me whatever you want but it is obvious you came here in this forum to get at EME or another people that doesnt think as you think and trow the "I have paid to get better services", "I expect to get events I like for the money I paid", those are really ridiculous arguments on a game that is FREE TO PLAY.

    As the model implies you don't have to pay a cent to be able to play because the SERVICE is FREE and you DON'T PAY FOR IT.

    event is one of the service we have

    i dont expect a refund and will never ask this and anyway it is no like i can ask for refund for my pc video game or electricity bill or internet or wathever

    i spent money on this game, because before i was happy or expected a improvment, i never said i will alway do that, but thanks to convince me to stop to spend money on tera :)

    we support this free to play so we have the right to ask good service and complaint when the quality decrease and event is one of the service, off course they have the right to remove this service and we have the right to complaint when they do that

    without us this model will bankrupt and tera would gone since long time ago, so the free2play we support it with our $, now thanks to ask to the customer to stop to spend $ on tera we will see how many time tera will stay open without customers :)

    And yet you still are confused, I never said you don't have rights to complain, anyway you even avoid the fact about what you said in this thread but I is a good start to open you eyes and stop doing something that doesn't satisfy you.

    And about customers, do you know that a costumer that keep complaining in the wrong way hurts a bussiness more than anything?

    Believe me, I have kicked customers from my bussiness and even neglected service to those who likes to trow at me tantrums for silly reasons and believe me that the bussiness are doing better than ever.

    There is a diference to have a complain from a costumer about something reasonable and in a proper manner, where I have fired people for neglecting their activities or doing them in a way that should not be, I have accepted complains from customers when the quality of product is not satisfactory and if that issue need to be scalated to my providers I do, I even changed providers due to customers feedback.

    But having a customer that tries to step over my employees integrity and shouting in a disrespectful manner because a minor issue has made me kick out those customers and even calling the police when they refuse to leave the building.

    Sadly here over the internet anonimity protects people that likes to abuse because they won't receive proper punishment for their actions and sadly internet on-line games, specially small companies, are always the ones to loss the most because of those deviants.

    If bussiness were to give up on "customers" complains ever then believe me that no bussiness will be able to be bussiness at all, because the amount of ridiculous complains people likes to trown mindlessly.

    and it is why you jump on me when i answer to OP ? :)

    and how it is related to what OP post or my answer to him ?

    you kicked your customers before or after they pay you ? or did you refund them before to kick them ? because from what i see tera is not really in good shape and bhs and enmasse give more reasons to be unhappy with them than happy with them, we already gave our reason why tera quality has decreased with time

    i dont remember i was meany or bad when i answer to OP

    well if i remember enmasse can still ban people, they are free to do this with all their customers or 50% of their customers if it made them happy, so we will just say bye and go elsewhere when this day will come

    well it is not like if enmasse help themselve to improve their reputation
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    vkobe wrote: »
    and it is why you jump on me when i answer to OP ? :)

    and how it is related to what OP post or my answer to him ?

    you kicked your customers before or after they pay you ? or did you refund them before to kick them ? because from what i see tera is not really in good shape and bhs and enmasse give more reasons to be unhappy with them than happy with them, we already gave our reason why tera quality has decreased with time

    i dont remember i was meany or bad when i answer to OP

    well if i remember enmasse can still ban people, they are free to do this with all their customers or 50% of their customers if it made them happy, so we will just say bye and go elsewhere when this day will come

    well it is not like if enmasse help themselve to improve their reputation
    vkobe wrote: »
    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?
    vkobe wrote: »
    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    Here so far, I questioned you about your stance to not get what you paid for, you were the first to jump in a negative way against me.

    And you can clearly see how it is related at what you posted.

    And about those customers, obviously a kicked them after they paid because their behaviour made need of such action. So far I haven't loss a sue because I take precautions when dealing with "angry" customers. Because we can record video and audio when dealing with another person these days fortunately. :)
  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    i said to OP we pay we have right to complaint it is this post made you mad against me :)

    i didnt know than when service suck we complaint made you mad :)

    we already gave reason why the service suck since some years and this event is just another reason among severals reasons why we see tera quality decreased with time

    if i remember enmasse can kick us after we pay so what is the problem ?

  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    vkobe wrote: »
    i said to OP we pay we have right to complaint it is this post made you mad against me :)
    vkobe wrote: »
    but we pay $ to have nice service, so when service suck we complaint :3
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    The service is free, you don't need to pay and those things that you paid for you get them.

    So?

    Not sure how that post is cataloged as something from a person who got mad but well, jumping to conclusions are you?

    One more thing if it didn't get to your mind, I already said that you are wrong, you have the right to complain even if you don't spend money. How you do it is another matter.
    i didnt know than when service suck we complaint made you mad :)

    If anything the one who is mad here is you
    vkobe wrote: »
    so 500$ give me the right to complaint ;)

    yes i know you spend 5000 $ so i dont care if you white knight that ;)

    and later you even made acusations and defamations against me when I only pointed that what you posted clearly makes people think that those who pay are the ones who are entitled to complain or ask for events :)
    we already gave reason why the service suck since some years and this event is just another reason among severals reasons why we see tera quality decreased with time

    So far most of the events we had these last years were liked for many people as also were disliked for a good amount, that doesn't make Tera anyworse on quality at all. However this specific event looks like something handed by BHS to publishers to try it at the same time but it just happened to have code issues that were not showing at Korea.

    And if anything EME had managed this event in a good way, they heard feedback from players, were trying to find the issue before to not shutdown it and give a compensation for it to every player. Something that I don't rememeber in the old days when servers crashed on event days. Yes server crashed since Tera arrived at NA (since it was created better said) and you can see complains from 2012 to 2015 also about that.
    if i remember enmasse can kick us after we pay so what is the problem ?

    What is the problem is what you should answer, I already told you that giving money to them won't make you anymore important than others and everyone that plays Tera can complain about issues in game. To make it funny, those who even don't play and keep saying the quit playing long ago keeps coming to forums to complain. :)

  • vkobevkobe ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    like i said i answer to OP and you chose to answer me and you ask so ? and i answer you off course you dislike the answer :)

    i never say than nobody else cant complaint

    oh sorry if elinusagi has the reputation of white knight only counterpoint is more whiteknight than you, we watched your posts since one year so with time we begin to have some ideas about you

    well if you read well i said than this event is among the reasons we see tera quality decreased and no the only and it is not like tera event was a big succes since one year, yes we have some mongos, but it is 2 christmas and tera anniversary we saw than enmasse was unable to handle and do you remember a good valentine event in 2017 ?

    2016 and before enmasse was able to made good party to celebrate special time

    off course i dont blame only enmasse bhs is more guilty than enmasse, but since 2016 gameforge are better than enmasse, so it broke my heart to see that

  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    vkobe wrote: »
    like i said i answer to OP and you chose to answer me and you ask so ? and i answer you off course you dislike the answer :)

    i never say than nobody else cant complaint

    oh sorry if elinusagi has the reputation of white knight only counterpoint is more whiteknight than you, we watched your posts since one year so with time we begin to have some ideas about you

    well if you read well i said than this event is among the reasons we see tera quality decreased and no the only and it is not like tera event was a big succes since one year, yes we have some mongos, but it is 2 christmas and tera anniversary we saw than enmasse was unable to handle and do you remember a good valentine event in 2017 ?

    2016 and before enmasse was able to made good party to celebrate special time

    off course i dont blame only enmasse bhs is more guilty than enmasse, but since 2016 gameforge are better than enmasse, so it broke my heart to see that

    You talk in plural when you talk about yourself? Another issue with some people when they think they talk for the masses.

    I did point you out what you clearly stated in your post and you didn't like it, if anything you continue to make acusations and defamations, sign that you are the one mad here.

    You came to a thread and don't like another person to make a question about what you wrote and you start a tantrum saying they are mad, they are white knights and now even made a call out of another forum user needessly. Who is the one mad?

    This christmass I concur with you, it was nothing compared to previous christmast events and I am pretty sure that the one in charge at that moment may have thought WinTera was the event, no that thing excuse EME at all.

    This one was for February 2017 http://tera.enmasse.com/news/posts/kyra-s-pop-up-potion-shack-is-back--2, quite enjoyable for many as for others they were complaining about the catalysts amount you got from HM dungeons. But overall was an event playable for most of the players that time. Issues? Yes there were but nothing that big to make the event worthless or not enjoyable for many people.

    You already stated your mind and accepted that you are even answering threads moved by emotions rather than logic.

    Now if you want me to do the same as you, basically since Minea and Tonka left the game your post in forums have been nothing else but bitterness against new crew, naggin or in a melancolic way of something that never were a thing but your state of mind made you believe it was.

    As I said, from 3 years up to this days more than half of your post on forums are about your bitterness or naggin against EME crew because your idols left them game and it was no more fun for your.

    Maybe is a good time for you to accept facts and stop dreaming about old days since those will never come back.
  • ElinUsagi,

    Please stop kissing EME/BHS booty. Let me spell it out for you in all caps - no one listens unless it's in caps: WHEN WE RECEIVE THE SAME DAILY VANGUARD REWARDS WE DID FROM OCT THROUGH JANUARY WE'LL STOP COMPLAINING.

    Thank you, drive through.
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