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Tuwangi Training Getting Crowded

And not with active players. What do we do? Of course they have to use high animation attacks, and when there's over 5, it gets a bit annoying.

Comments

  • Ignore the bots. Ignore goldsellers in the near future. Everything is fine as long there's an empty channels.
  • HLK76PFWXTHLK76PFWXT ✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    It is a sad and very frustrating situation.

    The biggest problem is that the non active players usually auto attack and use rain of arrows/arcane barrage/etc whenever without back crit or any decent gear so their dps is very low but the bams do get increased HP/Endurance/Crit Resit/Etc with each player in the area so the bams get tougher meaning that the bams are harder to kill because of the extra stats but also the enrage timers are screwed up completely making us to spend much more time doing something that we should not do it ( i am truly annoyed to have to spend 30% more time making me to do something that i should not do ).

    And the truly sad and frustrating situation is that some genius decided to make the guardian zone extremely large so we literally have to go three kilometers away to be able to switch channels to run back AND wait for the introduction so we have TO either deal with the non active players and waste time or run around and wait for introduction to waste time not being able to fight straight on. And it is even more amazing when low level players are questing in the area unknowingly making the bams harder to be killed due to stats being boosted and also enrage timers being screwed up.


    Who the hell came up with this system and why do we have to struggle once more?
  • HLK76PFWXTHLK76PFWXT ✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    I am sorry for complaining but did you check the area for the Crustacean boss? You literally go so far that you are barely able to see the bam even with high video settings.. And what i do not understand is why do we have to go so far to switch channels instead of being able to switch right on the spot in the guardian area?

    Also, i am pretty sure that i have tested this enough and instead of getting 3.5 boxes per five minutes with my brawler.. I was actually going down to 2.5 per five minutes ( it must be connected with the enrage as well because we do significantly less damage if the boss does not enrage as much depending on the dps ).. And it might not look like a biggie but what if i tried hard to min/max my brawler to improve my efficiency just to get gimped like that simply because some characters in the area are mostly auto attacking? For example.. What if i farmed 225k to get the 2.0 crit power dragon for the extra damage just to see that the said bonus gets denied in a very indirect way since i am doing less damage than what i should considering that the enrage gets reduced...

    Anyway, i think that we should be allowed to freely switch channels whenever out of combat without having to run back and forth all the time for each mission.


    p.s. it really sucks for enrage when you have 85% done and other two players have the rest of 15%
  • CornishRex wrote: »
    > @MystShadowHeart said:
    > Ignore the bots. Ignore goldsellers in the near future. Everything is fine as long there's an empty channels.

    ???
    The guardian quest system works by switching you to less populated channels by itself.
    Nice strawman tho, cause that's not what I was implying at all.
    The tuwangi quest COULD be solved by removing collision in the area, but op asked for the solution and I gave him one.

    Nah, not trying to discredit you or anything. Having a bad day with this quest and i feel like talking shits.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    There were so many today that active players got dumped to channel 2 automatically to find a few even hanging out on that channel. Are we just ignoring? Are they even bots? I don't know if I should report for botting or what. It just gets a tad annoying when we have to go to different channels and start over from the start, because there are so many afkers. It's really getting a bit time consuming to find a free channel and then starting a minute or two late when we only get 5 minutes and the walk through takes over a minute. Yes, I am trying to get the Vanguards on my different alts, which is fine with the rules, but I have to wait for the thing to start to be able to teleport there quickly as it is. I can do later when it's not so busy, but this isn't good for people that don't have a lot of time to get them done. Ignoring them seems to be just encouraging more to do the same.
  • U guys do realized that u dont have to finish the guardian legion 'quest', right?
    Go in there, poke something here and there, and u get a point.
    The harder u poke, the more points u rake for yourself.

    I personally didnt even noticed these afker/ bots?/ randoms, because to me, they all grey shadows.
    Coz they dun even get rendered proper. By the time they did, i'm already onto the next one.
    :flushed:
  • i guess people doesn't know that the end part of tuwangi training gave tons of point. Waste 2 min switching channel and the quest end before you reach that part. Also, reporting wont do any good. Not enough evidence apparently.
  • AnotsuAnotsu ✭✭✭
    i guess people doesn't know that the end part of tuwangi training gave tons of point. Waste 2 min switching channel and the quest end before you reach that part. Also, reporting wont do any good. Not enough evidence apparently.

    I don't understand why you're really talking about this here, that's not really the point of this discussion?
    Take this somewhere else if you're angry about bots.
  • tisnotmetisnotme ✭✭✭✭
    Anotsu wrote: »
    i guess people doesn't know that the end part of tuwangi training gave tons of point. Waste 2 min switching channel and the quest end before you reach that part. Also, reporting wont do any good. Not enough evidence apparently.

    I don't understand why you're really talking about this here, that's not really the point of this discussion?
    Take this somewhere else if you're angry about bots.

    I don't understand why you posted this at all when they were answering about the tuwangi training others commented on
    and made a reply to others bot comments
  • AnotsuAnotsu ✭✭✭
    tisnotme wrote: »
    Anotsu wrote: »
    i guess people doesn't know that the end part of tuwangi training gave tons of point. Waste 2 min switching channel and the quest end before you reach that part. Also, reporting wont do any good. Not enough evidence apparently.

    I don't understand why you're really talking about this here, that's not really the point of this discussion?
    Take this somewhere else if you're angry about bots.

    I don't understand why you posted this at all when they were answering about the tuwangi training others commented on
    and made a reply to others bot comments

    So you're also angry about bots? Gotcha!
  • CassandraTRCassandraTR ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    @CornishRex with the Ultra-Kill battlefield domination up in here.
  • NorafinNorafin ✭✭
    edited February 2018
    CornishRex wrote: »
    4.) Nobody uses skills there because.. There's no need to? I'm not sure how you're having fps problems but either way you can switch channels, there's 10 to choose from.
    7.) After AFKing I got tp'd to another area so the statement where you claim people can afk is false.

    So my last question is.. how do you know they're bots? Random names and they don't reply to your whispers? How did you get to that conclusion? Just curious before we start throwing any accusations.

    To answer both at once: Using a skill means you don't get afk-kicked.
    Using an AoE skill to clear the mobs that spawn while the event zone is gone means you don't get knocked around.
    Then just tape down whatever button activated that skill and there you go. I'm pretty sure someone can write a bot that does that without blocking your computer, but the idea is simple.
    Hell I came up with that when i was chatting with someone on my phone but didn't want to get kicked, I just hit some button every now and then.
    Sure you only get 1/4th of the points, but at 0% of the effort. Now why people don't do that on the upper channels as to not bother anyone and don't get reported I don't understand.
  • ChristinChristin ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    CornishRex wrote: »
    Christin wrote: »
    There were so many today that active players got dumped to channel 2 automatically to find a few even hanging out on that channel. Are we just ignoring? Are they even bots? I don't know if I should report for botting or what. It just gets a tad annoying when we have to go to different channels and start over from the start, because there are so many afkers. It's really getting a bit time consuming to find a free channel and then starting a minute or two late when we only get 5 minutes and the walk through takes over a minute. Yes, I am trying to get the Vanguards on my different alts, which is fine with the rules, but I have to wait for the thing to start to be able to teleport there quickly as it is. I can do later when it's not so busy, but this isn't good for people that don't have a lot of time to get them done. Ignoring them seems to be just encouraging more to do the same.

    I'm sorry but, are you a troll?
    SWITCH CHANNELS AS SOON AS YOU START DOING THE QUEST
    You don't have to start over again??? Just switch to ch3 and enjoy your loneliness and continue racking up points. Also you can't afk, you get automatically kicked from the zone for doing that.
    Holy hell why would you report random players for botting? I have so many questions. What proof do you have that they're bots and not just players trying to do their guardians in peace?

    Well, you obviously can't read well or seem to not understand what is going on. Yes, if you switch to an empty channel, you have to start the quest from the beginning. I clearly explained that, so maybe just read what you're quoting rather than calling people names.

    Maybe because they just stand in one spot the entire time and do the same attack at the same intervals consistently. Also, they stand in the same spot doing consistent interval skills for most of the day or night. Now, if they were sitting at their computer, I highly doubt they'd be consistently counting down each time they hit the skill key.

    Do you really need that much educating on this topic? If so, maybe don't reply to issues you obviously don't have a clue on. Oh, and yes, it's apparent that people that are doing the above would be mad over this topic. However, they're the ones not smart enough to go to a higher channel. Instead, they all hang out on channel 1 and 2 in a big cluster on the blue section.

    My point is (which I've already stated) is that it's very time consuming for us players that don't use an exploit to have to teleport to the area and then have to switch channels leaving us less than 3 minutes to do a 5 minute quest. I get that you don't care about me or other players like me, but I care, which is why I made the post. When you start the quest so late, you don't end up with access to the last 2 minutes, which give the highest amount of points. Instead, it just cuts off when the time runs out.

    Yes, I get there is nothing to be done. Heaven forbid certain people actually go into the game once a week to see the cluster of folks hanging out. No, not sure what I was thinking. Shame on me.
  • ElinLoveElinLove ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just as always, my little input on the matter cause I wanna type for no reason:

    You may even re-start the quest, OK, but you don't lose your contribution anyway, which in my view at least, is the most important part. Unless, that is, you can't even finish your 1st daily Guardian Mission thingy for the 600G in Velika.
    Yes, they are botting. Either manually or scripted, whatever, they're NOT trying to make the quest in any way, they literally stand in the same place doing some random attack every few seconds to not get AFK kicked. It's very evident since they never ever bother trying to move to the different colors, just stand there on some position that is bound to give them some contribution. You may argue it's a victimless crime, which I frankly agree (unless it's some swarm of bots spamming attacks nonstop killing FPS), but nonetheless it's not allowed. Doesn't bother me in any way but I'm also not fond of people exploiting things regardless. It's on a totally different level from BGs and dungeons where you DO need actual teamwork to get the task done/win it. On Vanguard you may as well never complete the quest and still get credits all the time. Happens with me and my terrible DPS.

    Also, I would agree that yes, it's an annoyance that YOU have to move out because of bots. It should be the other way around at the very least. I don't think it's nearly a critical situation but still whenever possible, the team could get a look at it.
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