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Valkyrie Combo - Which is better while i Ragnarok?

Hello all.
I usually use this skill rotation when Ragnarok is up :
Spinning Death > Maelstrom > Shining Crescent hit 1 > Backstab > Shining Crescent hit 2 > Bloodflower > Leaping Slash > Glaive Strike > Dark Herald > Runeburst. Repeat.

I just found that another combo could works aswell, but I cannot decide which one does more damage. (Always being in Ragnarok):
Spinning Death > Malestrom > Shining Crescent hit 1 > Backstab > shining Crescent hit 2 > Leaping Slash > Glaive Strike > Windslash > Leaping Slash > Death Spinning > Dark Herald > Runeburst.

So that's it. Basically just changes the end of the rotation. I cannot decide which one does more damage .

Already read every Valkyrie's guides out there so no need to share them to me, I just want to read your comments.

Also: What glyphs should I use beetween : Bloodflower > Increase power by 2 and Reduce 20% cd of Glaive Strike?

Thank you!

Comments

  • HaloistHaloist ✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    First and most important of all, how in the world did you even come up with those rotations after you've "Already read every Valkyrie's guides out there"? I don't remember any guides teaching players to use Shining Crescent (SC) outside of Spinning Death's 3s dmg boost window. I'm also assuming you just carelessly missed out on using Spinning Death before Runeburst in your first rotation, cause if not you're losing DPS for using Runeburst with only 6 runemarks.

    As for which of the two rotations is better, the cast time of using "Bloodflower" should be faster than "Windslash + Leaping Slash", and it suffers from less ping tax as well since its 1 skill vs 2 skills, so the first one lets you SC faster and thus is better.

    Regarding the glyphs, it's up to skill lvl IMO, since good players will be able to:
    1. Have higher Ragnarok uptime and thus will rarely even use Glaive Strike outside of Ragnarok, so the cdr is kinda pointless (Glaive Strike's default cd is already short enough during Ragnarok)
    2. Perfect Evade boss attacks for Bloodflower resets and thus have 100% crit chance to make use of the crit power increase glyph for it (the main purpose of Bloodflower resets is to generate Ragnarok points anyway; this is just a minor DPS boost)
  • I like this setup for dps
    ROTATION

    Dream Slash+Maelstrom+Spinning Death+Shining Crescent+Backstab+Shining Crescent+Bloodflower+Leaping Slash+Ground Bash+Glaive Strike

    GLYPHS

    Carving Dreamslash+Carving Maelstrom+Empowered Maelstrom+Powerlinked Spining Death+Empowered Shining Crescent+Powerlinked Backstab+Powerlinked Bloodflower+Carving Bloodflower+Empowered Leaping Slash+Carving Leaping Slash+Carving Ground Bash+Empowred Ground Bash+Empowered Glaive Strike+Lingering Ragnarok
    depends on the enemy though
  • Paprika714 wrote: »
    Hello all.
    Spinning Death > Maelstrom > Shining Crescent hit 1 > Backstab > Shining Crescent hit 2 > Bloodflower > Leaping Slash > Glaive Strike > Dark Herald > Runeburst. Repeat.

    - Your spinning death buff will already expire before it reach 2 crescent hit.
    - If you are not in good position, your 1st crescent will not hit hard.
    - From my count, you only have 6 runes before you click runeburst.
    Paprika714 wrote: »
    Hello all.
    Spinning Death > Malestrom > Shining Crescent hit 1 > Backstab > shining Crescent hit 2 > Leaping Slash > Glaive Strike > Windslash > Leaping Slash > Death Spinning > Dark Herald > Runeburst.

    - Same as comment above
    - Windslash doesn't give you rune mark, therefore it only adds delay in 30 secs ragnarok
    Paprika714 wrote: »
    What glyphs should I use beetween : Bloodflower > Increase power by 2 and Reduce 20% cd of Glaive Strike?

    - I am using 20% CD Glaive Strike; but I will try your suggestion increase power by 2 and give you feedback again.
  • these people are hilarious
    i bet they run with like +200 crit on their valks as well
  • you only need like 100 and then "Unlimited Power!".
  • aeee98aeee98 ✭✭✭✭
    Ponilover wrote: »
    these people are hilarious
    i bet they run with like +200 crit on their valks as well

    you mean +300
  • There's only 2 relevant guides out there: Lorri's on EM and mine and neither one of us mentioned that.
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