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Question regarding Damage Meters.

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  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
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    AxeI wrote: »
    DPS meter has helped many people improve and pinpoint what they're doing wrong in a fight. What you're saying is extremely naive and ignorant.

    Many people I have seen using dps meters before improving their skills do not improve at all until "someone explain them the proper way to play".

    DPS meters have made more people dumb enought to not think by themselves because that tool is not helpful at all if you don't know the basic and sadly many people begin to use them before understanding the basics.

    DPS meter is only a tool for min-maxing, that being said it is only helpful at a highest level of skills but for people below the average is more like a double sword edge, making them too dependant on looking at their numbers without knowing what they are doing wrong.
  • RathgarRathgar ✭✭✭
    Damage meters are a helpful tool to those that actually want to be told and shone they can play better. I'm pretty much a filthy casual (The only people in my guild are real life friends that come and go) and my only tool telling me I'm doing things mostly correct is when I'm keeping up with people in guilds with laurels around their guild avatar on Guardian Legion.

    This is especially the case at the moment for Slayers who have had to completely relearn how to play the class last patch.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
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    AxeI wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    Many people I have seen using dps meters before improving their skills do not improve at all until "someone explain them the proper way to play".
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    I'm going to assume that when you say "someone explain them the proper way to play" means they read a guide. Theory = / = Practice. Someone won't start playing godlike after reading a guide or even if someone tells them "Oh, just do X > X > X > X and you'll do great" improving DPS takes time and perfection in gameplay.

    Meter helps you study ALL you did in a fight and provides more hindsight and data to study the things you could improve and what went wrong.

    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    DPS meters have made more people dumb enought to not think by themselves because that tool is not helpful at all if you don't know the basic and sadly many people begin to use them before understanding the basics.
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    This statement doesn't make any sense, at all. Meter hasn't made people dumb, it makes people more aware and conscious of their playstyle and pushes means to improve. I'm not sure why you're trying to convey your argument with "its not helpful if you don't know the basic" and even then its still useful cause people start from the bottom so what you're saying is null.
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    DPS meter is only a tool for min-maxing, that being said it is only helpful at a highest level of skills but for people below the average is more like a double sword edge, making them too dependant on looking at their numbers without knowing what they are doing wrong.
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    Yes, DPS meter is a tool for min-maxing & no it isn't only helpful at the highest level of skills. The players at the top achieved where they're at because they started at the bottom or, how you say it "People that don't know the basics" used this tool to strive and improve close to perfection.
    Your 2nd point in this doesn't make sense at all, again. People that want to get better will look at the numbers, thats how it is.

    If you think that "explian them the proper way to play" is to tell them to read a guide then your whole post have already take a wrong direction.

    Thank you for proving that using DPS meters derail you from thinking and only make you a pupet of numbers you don't understand.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2018
    AxeI wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    If you think that "explian them the proper way to play" is to tell them to read a guide then your whole post have already take a wrong direction.

    Thank you for proving that using DPS meters derail you from thinking and only make you a pupet of numbers you don't understand.

    You don't make any sense, please gather your thoughts before posting. DPS Meter does the exact opposite, it makes you think more and strive for gameplay perfection.

    You should try it.

    Give a DPS meter to a new player and don't explain him anything and to another new player give him guidance.

    It is obvious the outcome.

    This is something common even in real life, as I said the DPS metters have neglected you to see the obvious.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    CornishRex wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    AxeI wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    If you think that "explian them the proper way to play" is to tell them to read a guide then your whole post have already take a wrong direction.

    Thank you for proving that using DPS meters derail you from thinking and only make you a pupet of numbers you don't understand.

    You don't make any sense, please gather your thoughts before posting. DPS Meter does the exact opposite, it makes you think more and strive for gameplay perfection.

    You should try it.

    Give a DPS meter to a new player and don't explain him anything and to another new player give him guidance.

    It is obvious the outcome.

    This is something common even in real life, as I said the DPS metters have neglected you to see the obvious.

    ??????? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, please stop it's embarassing.
    No guides and theorycrafting would be available to you without dps meters.

    There would be guides an theoricraft even without dps metters, you are embarrasing yoursleft saying that, I suppose dps metters have neglected you to think about it.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
    AxeI wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    CornishRex wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    AxeI wrote: »
    ElinUsagi wrote: »
    If you think that "explian them the proper way to play" is to tell them to read a guide then your whole post have already take a wrong direction.

    Thank you for proving that using DPS meters derail you from thinking and only make you a pupet of numbers you don't understand.

    You don't make any sense, please gather your thoughts before posting. DPS Meter does the exact opposite, it makes you think more and strive for gameplay perfection.

    You should try it.

    Give a DPS meter to a new player and don't explain him anything and to another new player give him guidance.

    It is obvious the outcome.

    This is something common even in real life, as I said the DPS metters have neglected you to see the obvious.

    ??????? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, please stop it's embarassing.
    No guides and theorycrafting would be available to you without dps meters.

    There would be guides an theoricraft even without dps metters, you are embarrasing yoursleft saying that, I suppose dps metters have neglected you to think about it.

    Please, just stop. The guides up for each class have reached their conclusion because of research and also help provided by the Meter. You're are completely disconnected.

    Thank you for proving me in the right.

    You don't need meters to do research, you can doit without it and people were doing it before meters were brought into the game, and as I said, it is a tool for min-maxers more than for begginers.

    Is like giving a calculator to a elementary school child without explaining him how to make arithmetic operations.

    Yeah, pls embarrass yourself more.
  • DL7MMWLJ3WDL7MMWLJ3W ✭✭✭✭
    "Yeah, pls embarrass yourself more." - elinusagi

    If I'm not mistaken, this is consider baiting that goes against the rules of this forum, which you've done several times and gottem away with it. You have always shown proof that you don't play at the highest skillfloor level to even participate in this dicussion.

    Its enough for me to report you so you don't persue any other misguidance that you've done here for years. I suggest anyone to avoid taking the bait and do the same by reporting.
  • ElinUsagiElinUsagi ✭✭✭✭✭
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    DL7MMWLJ3W wrote: »
    "Yeah, pls embarrass yourself more." - elinusagi

    If I'm not mistaken, this is consider baiting that goes against the rules of this forum, which you've done several times and gottem away with it. You have always shown proof that you don't play at the highest skillfloor level to even participate in this dicussion.

    Its enough for me to report you so you don't persue any other misguidance that you've done here for years. I suggest anyone to avoid taking the bait and do the same by reporting.

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    CornishRex wrote: »
    ??????? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, please stop it's embarassing.

    I supose you won't report your friends too, obviously.

    As you said both are baits and both are agaisnt the rules if we use your judgement in your post but obviously you only get mad at the people who argues with your friends.

    Nice try.
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