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It is "easy" to get a high win rate if you sync with the best geared people, but that doesn't take the fact away that x person is best at x class for that battleground. And FWC is a hell of a lot harder to excel at than solo q 3s or CS because those battlegrounds are equalized.
I do okay in team and solo 3s too, and Luxrelia didn't queue with a premade from what I saw. At best it was me and Lewing with him but he was killing me before that point which was after the backstab "nerf". He's great in there. And Same queues enough for me to put him well above Kyru in 3s and FWC. That Blank.Piece or whatever warrior is good too. And shutting me down in FWC isn't easy, I'm not bad in any way when I'm In The Fray....
Saturn is better than Aroo too. Where is Aroo even better?
idk I queued today and didn't die a single time with 50 kills and won 8 games in a row, it really isn't hard, it's the same as its always been, you queue with friends and win every match unless you pop into double premades; also, Luxrelia did sync queue, I was in the discord he was queueing ppl with before you joined it. Also, meaning there's gear (vs players who ARE equalized) would mean it is easier to excel in it, because full +9 vs eq means you can kill them easier than they can kill you. And yeah, you do "okay" but that doesn't mean you're the best at the class. IIRC he hardly logged on after the backstab nerf but you keep seeming to ignore the fact he can't achieve any similar result on the other classes he plays which is saying something. Aroo has always been better, he was in Good Fight at a point (before he was kicked for toxicity) when he queued team 3s and had much higher winrates than Saturn has had, he can also carry a lot harder than Saturn in solo q as a healer. Just because you can only list people you know personally doesn't mean they're better but its a common them among every one of these lists, and, back to my original point
every list is just the same thing, listing friends / people you like the most or "know" of
It's harder to win in FWC because of that fact, you have people in your raid holding your team back and the game has variables outside of straight PVP to worry about. Plus excelling requires an awareness most people do not possess, there are tons of people who do great in 1v1 or solo q(because of the nuclear bomb infused gear) but suck in teams 3s or FWC, they all have different metas. You shouldn't disregard FWC when it's popular and there's skill involved especially considering you can get 15 good players vs 15 good players, and have shining stars on both sides. People will notice who is good at what and appreciate them for it because they're winning games and doing cool [filtered]. Just because you don't like it doesn't invalidate how good people are in the battleground.
I dunno why a valk player supposedly sucking on other classes takes away from his valk skill also, no one else is talking about that except you. But I will say that Winter is small time compared to Luxrelia. He's not a god in solo 3s from what I've seen and in FWC he just had the general "im a valk" impact and I didn't ever see him change the tides of the match like Luxrelia did against me. I paid attention to him too in the few matches I've seen him in, because I like seeing good players on the same classes I play.
And I wasn't around back in the Aroo's day but I've done dozens and dozens of bgs with both this past year(though no teams with Aroo) and have mainly seen Aroo team build, force draw, and res like his life depended on it. I think he's great and it's hilarious watching him play but I can't see how he's better than Saturn going by what I've seen, particularly in FWC. I suppose he's just not trying, just hiding his full potential... That's my boy alright.
But nah this isn't a "who on my friends list is good" thread, pretty sure you're just sizzling because you weren't named The point of these threads are to share your opinion to help people come to a consensus of which players are the best. Post yours if you think it's definitive and post that video too. I want to see who you are, who you think is the best, and see how good you are in 1v1. I mean hell, do you even carry BGs? Why weren't you on any of these lists? Wool.Ball, Lewing, and god Spica were carrying hard in FWC today too but I didn't notice any other reapers, so what's up?
I'm not usually on lists because most people who make the lists are average players, you never see good players making lists because there really is zero point for them (General / Joey said something about this: "I think the underlying topic is that a fwc player will not be good in skyring (which is significantly harder), but a skyring player's skillset enables them to excel easily in any other bg.". If you were good back then you would've been ranked etc and in the best guilds, not on a [filtered] list made by irrelevant players. Notice how I called out Scarsi (the literal who) who made their list and they didn't ever mention a handful of top-tier players because "3's is too toxic". I know for a fact you are a dogshit player based on the fact you get dumpstered in team 3s even with broken comps (losing as a valk with zerk? lol), because your skill as a player is limited to the fact you class hop off slayer (first to ninja when it was broken, then to valk when it was broken, where will you go when auto stagger is removed and herald only pulls two people?) and that you're only "known" because you probably have over 2000 matches on valk which is more than most players even have... people constantly see you and see you on a winning team based on the fact you can sync queue and win matches, and like I already proved and said, ANYONE with the entry-level requirement (that was needed to even get into good guilds back in 2013/2014/2015/2016) can get good winrate, thats why you never saw FWC only players on any sort of [filtered] lists.
As for your argument that you have to carry the "undergeared" players, you are also facing the undergeared players, are you [filtered]? Maybe it's because FWC is literally all you have but you missed my point entirely, since you're already queueing with geared players, your team automatically has the advantage UNLESS you pop into a double premade (which hardly ever happens anymore). Here's some math -- 5 top geared players, 10 mid to low geared players vs 15 mid to low geared players, who's gonna win? Hmm...
Also why lie about doing matches with Aroo? Saturn hardly queues fraywind, and you never really did team 3s with Saturn, and you just said you didn't with Aroo, so how can you judge either of their skills? Because you're in a discord that has Saturn so you have to dickride them to no end?
As to how good I am in 1v1, the only current player who has a positive win rate vs me in duels is Aveon, and I'm the only reaper at the moment who actually takes off duels from him (your god Lewing is like 80-5 XDDDD) and that's not to talk trash to Lewing, I like the guy and respect him, and he's definitely one of the best playing right now. But since you care about who I am since you got proven wrong, it's me, Peri! I think that should've been obvious but I win the majority of duels vs Freeform, Spica, and Lewing, and any current reaper for that matter (and player). But duels aren't hard, they teach bad habits / you play differently in them than you would say play in 3s, or you can have aids duel set ups / gear to where you have 80k more HP and hp regen vs the player you are facing. I've dueled tons of people and really never lose unless it's vs Aveon, and hardly ever saw you in VO (wonder how you can watch duels if you were literally never really there besides when you dueled Desp like 3 times?). Can't really say much about Myonz but 'apparently' he plays, and again not sure why he'd be queueing CS the majority of the time. I'm not usually on lists because I stopped queueing FWC regularly after Crusades ended (like the majority of most older players did) and because it's boring as [filtered], I queued it yesterday and it's the same as it's always been; you think carrying is super hard or means you're a god but you should at least be able to get 6-10 kills per game (or more if you take red) if you're a decent DPS. Back when I always queued I was top scoring with 10+ kills in starfall patch every single match and queued with Kenny, Luxrays, Bready, etc, and had a literal 100 percent winrate but so did most other people who 5 queued.
The reason 3s is held so high because it incorporates every aspect of skill a player should have (a good 3s player will be good at FWC, but a good FWC player might not be good at 3s). I most definitely carry BGs though, I'll start queueing more just for the fun of it, but I already know how it'll pan out. As for my *own* list, there's really no point in making one because of how inactive the game is, I mean, you've heard of "rating in 2017 lul" but now it's "rating in 2018 lul", nobody cares and it's easy as [filtered] to get rating if anyone tries. I mean when you have Sam as the 'best' warrior currently playing you know the game is just [filtered] dead lol, and the leaderboards show that.
Lists are just pointless because if you say "haHAA some players are bad in 1v1 or 3s but are great in FWC" then they are not the best player. Make a "best FWC players" list. A best player is someone who excels at all aspects of the game, not just a button-mashing BG, and can actively adapt and drop habits to improve themselves in situations where they keep getting shutdown (a brain required). Getting a good kd isn't even hard in fwc, in the wise words of Matt: "If you want one just dip when you see 2 of your teammates die lol"
Best players lists should stay back in pre 2016 to 2013 where there was actually people playing for it to mean anything. I've made a list and it's posted somewhere but there's no point in it now, there is no achievement to being the best when it's out of 3 other similarly skilled players in a handful of 40 total who play the class still, lol...
tl;dr - I don't give a [filtered] about being on any sort of list, I already know my placement in skill based on winrates, performance vs them in duels, in 3s, etc; winning the majority of the time vs the "top" listed, and the fact that some of the best players aren't even on the list. What I'm "so mad XD" about is that garbage FWC only players make lists of their cool fwc buds and don't even do well in 3s (besides a few of them listed on there). I'm not saying FWC takes no skill, it takes skill to win as a premade and to 'carry', but you don't have to be anywhere near the top level to do that in FWC. It is harder to do 3s than to do FWC.
So really what I'm saying is queue 3s and thanks for reading my essay on why you're [filtered] for making best player lists in 2018!
Idk what you have against me but I'm not saying anything anymore and this is the 2nd time you mention my name lmao.
I didn't mention ppl who only do 3's because I don't queue for it in years lol, not because they are salty; a lot of ppl in it are nice instead but it's too competitive for me to bother doing it since I just play casually now, therefore I don't know people who do ONLY 3's. Is that a hard concept for you?
I agree that 3's is the place that requires brain the most and where ppl can have more impact using their own skill, out of all the random [filtered] you're saying to proove the point that my list in specific is [filtered], that was the only thing that really could make sense I think. The rest just sounds like you're raging for no reason.
As I said it's fine to have different opinions, because unlike you I really don't care lol. I put people I know and see as I already justified naming ppl I've never seen playing is stupid. Some of the people I put for fun knowing ppl wouldn't agree and you didn't mention any of them actually lol
But anyway, you say you don't give a [filtered] for lists but, as you said yourself, you're making essays about one specific list? Lol
There are many out there, many are similar to mine to a degree. Stop bringing my name up lol you're going on and on about this for days now.
except you're the very same because you keep replying, also, you're still wrong, it's not people who ONLY do 3s, i never said this, my point of disliking any list is because most are made based off of ONLY fwc, which is stupid. I literally said what makes a good player in my post but have fun still not saying what your ign is
alright lewing stop trolling
Not gonna read the rest, you didn't even post your list and you don't know what you're talking about on some of the points I glanced at. And you are too angry to reason with.
@jerbearyang It's commendable how some people thoroughly understand other classes and have a high level of skill but yeah you kind of have a point. Someone who's just okay in mass but a god in 3s maybe isn't the best of their class, depends how you look at it. I always looked up to the guys who do good in every BG, but carrying FWCs is the coolest for me.
And I keep replying because you kept bringing my name up for w/e Reason like it matters. I don't hide my old name from anyone lol you can say it as much as you want and it doesn't say much, I just don't get why you would be so obsessive because I'm almost sure I never even talked to you.
Gunner: Turkeysomething
Lancer: Turkeykebab
Mystic: Turkeyballs
Priest: Turkeydoctor
Reaper: Turkeybaker
Slayer: Turkey.With.Me
Sorcerer: Turkeysomething
Warrior: Turkeyburger
Zerk: Turkeybopper
Valkyrie:Lunarturkey
I didn't put Rob because I mostly see him only on Valk now. And I'm almost sure Garen is in BDO right now.
I thought Tooi and Minks weren't playing anymore either.
I don't think Hellete is that good but idk how she does in 3's so I'll trust your word.
thanks for admitting you were wrong and basically saying since you can't win with busted comps because you're bad; point was that doing good in ALL aspects of the game means you're a great player, not just in FWC.
The game is so dead I have to post on forums in big white on black blocks of text, sorry!