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To many Tanks!?
So , I entered a level 44 dungeon and the party was composed of nothing but tanks. 2 Lancers and 3 Brawlers.
The last post on December claimed there weren't enough tanks. Is this really true?
Or is healing and DPS less common in PVE?
The last post on December claimed there weren't enough tanks. Is this really true?
Or is healing and DPS less common in PVE?
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There's a bigger amount of healers than usual from what I've noticed, altho not while leveling.
2) The system looks for 1 healer, then 4 of anything else. It depends on what else is seeking on the other 4 servers. It can put 4 dps, or 4 lancers. It just depends on who is available.
3) At 65 there are not enough tanks. If you are a good tank, you will be wanted, trust me on that.
ACTUALLLYYYYYY
It will IMS match to people that are all tanks more often than not I will get a message saying " We are having trouble matching you would you like to match without a tank,dps,healer" if you click continue it will pull in whoever is in the matchmaking at that time. How do I know? Because I as a DPS have been put into groups with no healer and nothing but male brawlers.
So they changed this recently to also allow no healer, before it was only no tank or DPS, but healer was mandatory regardless, also only for leveling dungeons.
They could have extended it to allow no healer as well for leveling dungeons and not announced in patch notes (not gonna bother to check), ya know, some times even EME has to check manually a lot of stuff that BHS doesn't say for whatever the reason.
OR OP just miscounted it. It's not like he was counting your salary, don't get too hard on it guys (not to you Midoku), it just happens to confuse it.
OR... OP could have entered a party and it was just tanks. Nothing too important, but well: answering to you OP, we just had male brawler so that's why, when female brawler came it was the same, Valkyrie and Ninja too made full DPS (+ healer) parties back then, I think even Elin Gunner had the same effect. New shiny toy on the box, that's it.
I could be wrong. I’m not that experienced. I’m pretty sure there wasn’t a mystic as the pets are hard to miss. Could there have been a priest who was meleeing instead of healing? Even with cosmetics Lancers are hard to miss. I guess Its a possibility that one of the elin was a priest.
But to go after #3. Are there not enough tanks or are there not enough good tanks?
How can you get no healer with IM? When the healer backs out after being called.
Boy, this forum is toxic.
A lot of people say that "good" tanks are needed without really clarifying what "good" means in this context. Furthermore, the community at large doesn't like (or like to accommodate) a new player being new, asking questions, and so on; many people give the impression that one should know the proper information beforehand otherwise you're wasting literally everyone's time, including your own.
Do enjoy your stay! We have elin-shaped cookies in the back - have as many as you want!
[X] Doubt, that message is only when the system finds a healer and wants to know if you care if there's a tank or multiple tanks...anything that fills the queue.
"Good" = Holding Aggro, providing all your support at appropriate times (depends on the tank), enraging at appropriate times (usually matches your support), Blocking/iframing heavy attacks (in advanced groups you'll actually facetank the minor attacks), Moving to block attacks to allow more dps from the DPS (example: the pushback on second boss in RK, you jump to the jump to block for the DPS so they dont have to iframe), providing a decent DPS output (once again depends on your class).
This community is the same as about every MMO, just sayin'. It all depends who you run into. A lot of people have the mindset that they've learned on their own so they want to play with other people who have experience as well and have a smooth experience. Teaching or running with someone new or inexperienced can affect someones short time schedule when they themselves already know how to do the content. However you can also run into people who are more than happy to assist someone learning or new, given they're open to learning and aren't just going to stay silent and continue on their merry way.
1st paragraph: at Lv 44 the Mystic may not be using his thralls properly (or at all), nor even dropping motes. Same with a Priest, at this level you're bound to find 1st time players that are just DPSing their way through and not doing a single heal skill. Yes, people can be that bad without knowing, worse even, knowing it.
2nd one: as of now, there may just not be enough good tanks, but quantity wise the average/bad ones are in loads right now. They also may not be well geared for the higher end content, you'll see that this forum pretty much only cares about the highest tier dungeons, regardless of the playerbase itself caring as much about it or liking more the middle tier stuff at Lv 65. Also as said above, good tank means a whole lot to be fair. Positioning of yourself and boss, avoiding/blocking hits to not eat damage, debuff boss/buff party, keeping aggro (most important of all in my opinion, even as a main healer), some people will even want the "good tank" to be a high part of the DPS.
3rd: Dunno if it changed to allow no healer, could have changed to that. And also as far as I know, you cannot get another DPS/tank if a healer drops from IM and you recruit again. Could be wrong, need confirmation.
4th: heh, this one is not nearly as toxic. Just someone triggered by the 5 tanks thing, bad day moments I assume hehe.
If you wanna see toxicity, get into any topic about DPS meter/proxy. You could do a drinking game: take a shot every time you read the word "white knight" or "cheater". You'll enter alcoholic coma in no time at all. OR enter some elin hating topic and you shall see it from me
Doubt me all you want, I could care less what your opinion is I was leveling my Ninja and got in with all Brawlers. Went fine, no one died. Don't know if I got pulled into something already in progress or not but regardless there I was on a ninja alone with 4 brawlers it happens.
No need to doubt you, a few weeks ago I was queved with 4 brawlers and I was a brawler so we were 5 brawlers xD.
The message when IM is taking longer to complete a party clearly ask if you are ok being matched with a party that lacks support/tank/dps class.