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Item Lvl is hilarious

So my Char got a Full Starfall Set, Tier 3 Etchings, Armors are +12 perfect rolled and the Weapon is +15 perf rolled 3%. Crit 16 Inner, Quickcarve Brooche... Having Item Lvl 414 with that. Id call it a pretty decent Char.

Some Dungeons are Ilvl 409 required to IMS, thats fine. What isnt fine is the Item Lvl of Slaughter / Conflate Gear. People having a +12 Set, no Etchings and Trash Rolls on Gear and get into these Dungeons. Ever been in a full Starfall Run ? Thats going smooth. The Healer doesnt count but when you get trapped by 3 Others, a Tank + 2 DPS in Bad Slaughter Gear rolled no etchings and maybe not knowing their class too.... its kinda impossible to play a dungeon and its totally crap that that gear gets the same Itemlvl as a Starfall Set....

Comments

  • YesunaYesuna ✭✭
    LFG is also an option. In fact, it is the much better option.
  • edited June 2016
    Yesuna wrote: »
    LFG is also an option. In fact, it is the much better option.

    i know ofc but sometimes these lfg are dead even on populated servers and the fact that they dont goddamnnn put an inspect button on that is kinda annoying

    i just wanted to say the difference in Gear and the same Itemlvl is a freakin joke
  • Type /inspect "name"

    And ilvl req was never an optimal amount. It's just minimum required to queue. You can get in the dungeon normally with much lower ilvl.
  • MiliceMilice ✭✭
    As much as i sometimes agree with what you're saying, except for dungeons with dps checks you could clear it in any [filtered] gear as long as you know your class. For example, there were people with dread/lucid clearing fihm better than people with full +15 sf with perfect rolls/etchings and whatnot. Gear is not equal to skill, and at the end of the day it mostly comes down to skill.
  • UnitedStrafesUnitedStrafes ✭✭✭
    edited June 2016
    Sorry some people have "lives" I know the content's been out a whole 2 weeks and everyone should be perfectly rolled, etched and in +15. Especially if we're pugging with you...we'll try harder to meet your expectations and in the future try to schedule our lives accordingly to your standards and to be better prepared for days old content.
  • PagesPages ✭✭✭✭
    The part about this that's wild to me is that OP is suggesting that Starfall can't be imperfectly rolled or exist without etchings. The ilvl system doesn't take etchings into account and it takes ilvl into account equally between gear pieces.

    I hate to inform you but Slaughter +12 is actually better than or at the least equal to Starfall +12. Only awakened Starfall pieces are really better than Slaughter, so, really, Slaughter has the ilvl it deserves.
  • JinxyKat39JinxyKat39 ✭✭✭
    Sorry some people have "lives" I know the content's been out a whole 2 weeks and everyone should be perfectly rolled, etched and in +15. Especially if we're pugging with you...we'll try harder to meet your expectations and in the future try to schedule our lives accordingly to your standards and to be better prepared for days old content.

    hehehe
  • edited June 2016
    Pages wrote: »
    The part about this that's wild to me is that OP is suggesting that Starfall can't be imperfectly rolled or exist without etchings. The ilvl system doesn't take etchings into account and it takes ilvl into account equally between gear pieces.

    I hate to inform you but Slaughter +12 is actually better than or at the least equal to Starfall +12. Only awakened Starfall pieces are really better than Slaughter, so, really, Slaughter has the ilvl it deserves.

    No.I know slaugter is good,but if you make the math,and coutning the extra rolls,starfal+15 is way superior to it.Numbers dont lie
    The ilvl is abit borked on tis patch,some gear pieces are statistically superior to some other gear,yet they have lower ilvl.This is cold hard fact
  • Pages wrote: »
    The part about this that's wild to me is that OP is suggesting that Starfall can't be imperfectly rolled or exist without etchings. The ilvl system doesn't take etchings into account and it takes ilvl into account equally between gear pieces.

    I hate to inform you but Slaughter +12 is actually better than or at the least equal to Starfall +12. Only awakened Starfall pieces are really better than Slaughter, so, really, Slaughter has the ilvl it deserves.

    No.I know slaugter is good,but if you make the math,and coutning the extra rolls,starfal+15 is way superior to it.Numbers dont lie

    things adding up, endurance and mana reg on a dps char RING ? +12 slaughter weapon with 4 rolls and like 3 are crap ? 3% MW Weapon.... 3% dmg on gloves missing on slaughter, etchings on weapon and gloves ... what im saying is that ppl who get a slaughter set and reach that same Item Lvl is the problem.

    in Dungeons you see the difference, Starfall Party 2 min Boss fight (500k-1m dps per char) ... slaughter bad rolled char 5 deaths each, wipe through 8 min boss fight (100-400k dps) ...

    either ppl think they are able to run stuff with the matching itemlvls or they just think i get carried through everything.
  • cvms3cvms3 ✭✭
    Pages wrote: »
    The part about this that's wild to me is that OP is suggesting that Starfall can't be imperfectly rolled or exist without etchings. The ilvl system doesn't take etchings into account and it takes ilvl into account equally between gear pieces.

    I hate to inform you but Slaughter +12 is actually better than or at the least equal to Starfall +12. Only awakened Starfall pieces are really better than Slaughter, so, really, Slaughter has the ilvl it deserves.

    No.I know slaugter is good,but if you make the math,and coutning the extra rolls,starfal+15 is way superior to it.Numbers dont lie

    things adding up, endurance and mana reg on a dps char RING ? +12 slaughter weapon with 4 rolls and like 3 are crap ? 3% MW Weapon.... 3% dmg on gloves missing on slaughter, etchings on weapon and gloves ... what im saying is that ppl who get a slaughter set and reach that same Item Lvl is the problem.

    in Dungeons you see the difference, Starfall Party 2 min Boss fight (500k-1m dps per char) ... slaughter bad rolled char 5 deaths each, wipe through 8 min boss fight (100-400k dps) ...

    either ppl think they are able to run stuff with the matching itemlvls or they just think i get carried through everything.

    If you're here to boast your dps meter gtfo and stick with your static k thx

    There is no problem with the IMS system, most people who use IMS are casuals I dont know why these guys coming in there expecting everyone to be great.
  • cvms3 wrote: »
    Pages wrote: »
    The part about this that's wild to me is that OP is suggesting that Starfall can't be imperfectly rolled or exist without etchings. The ilvl system doesn't take etchings into account and it takes ilvl into account equally between gear pieces.

    I hate to inform you but Slaughter +12 is actually better than or at the least equal to Starfall +12. Only awakened Starfall pieces are really better than Slaughter, so, really, Slaughter has the ilvl it deserves.

    No.I know slaugter is good,but if you make the math,and coutning the extra rolls,starfal+15 is way superior to it.Numbers dont lie

    things adding up, endurance and mana reg on a dps char RING ? +12 slaughter weapon with 4 rolls and like 3 are crap ? 3% MW Weapon.... 3% dmg on gloves missing on slaughter, etchings on weapon and gloves ... what im saying is that ppl who get a slaughter set and reach that same Item Lvl is the problem.

    in Dungeons you see the difference, Starfall Party 2 min Boss fight (500k-1m dps per char) ... slaughter bad rolled char 5 deaths each, wipe through 8 min boss fight (100-400k dps) ...

    either ppl think they are able to run stuff with the matching itemlvls or they just think i get carried through everything.

    If you're here to boast your dps meter gtfo and stick with your static k thx

    There is no problem with the IMS system, most people who use IMS are casuals I dont know why these guys coming in there expecting everyone to be great.

    i dont know what youre reading here but its surely nothing ive said. pls read again before you you implement stuff
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