[TERA PC & Console] En Masse is closing, but TERA lives on! We will continue to support TERA PC (NA) and TERA Console until service is transferred. Stay tuned for more information.
[TERA Console] The Grotto of Lost Souls update (v85) is now live! Read the patch notes here: https://bit.ly/TERACon_v85
[TERA PC] The 64-bit update (v97) is now live. Check out all the changes delivered on August 11 here: https://bit.ly/tera64_patchnotes
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but I guess we will never know for sure what a legacy server will or will not do, seeing how bhs wont approve anything like this unless its a last ditch effort (and low cost) to save tera.
it is just sometime new thing are so bad than you feel so nostalgia, of course it is not for everything, personally i prefer my current tv and youtube than my old tv and radio i had when i was baby and it is easier to use usb key than carry thousand books, vhs and cassette
for tera the problem it is bhs remove content it is why we feel nostalgia, we miss alliance and a better level of crafting and visit baldera and the old island of dawn
No its not just nostalga, it was a more FUN game - which is the point of playing a game.
1. The leveling in the open world was much more fun than the EASYMODE we have now.
2. The open world bams you met while leveling were more fun. People in the area would form parties to fight them and help each other because they had to, and I enjoyed being in those parties.
3. The quests were more fun and you wern't constantly overlevelled for the area like you are now. Yes i did like the quests ! - I know its sacrilege to say that, but they are less repetitive than endgame pugs. I even read the quests.
4. The isle of dawn starting area was more fun and pretty than stepstone isle - I HATE Stepstone Isle.
Also have you ever tried playing with a friend on Stepstone Isle. The constant phasing when you advance in the story makes it very difficult to meet up with your friends - which is really bad if you are trying to introduce a friend to Tera.
5. Equipment remodeling where you could mix and match parts of outfits was far superior to what we have now.
Sure I understand that most people remaining in Tera nowadays want to skip the leveling process entirely .But thats because -
a) The leveling process now is a shallow shell of what it was before.
b) most people who like leveling in a game have left the game in disgust, so we are left with people who prefer endgame only mmos.
c) they have done it 99 times before so they dont want to do it again.
However this is no reason to remove half the game for new people or people who do want to do it. A better way would be after you have done it a certain number of times you should be given a free level up scroll or a crazy xp boost item for your next character. Or maybe each character you raise to 65 gives a stackable xp item that can be traded between your characters.
I think the reason Bluehole wanted to level people as fast as possible was they observed max level people are more likely to buy costumes because people who are leveling want to be able to delete their characters to change class - which they cannot do if they buy costumes.- so they dont buy the costume. A better solution would have been to sell account bound costumes for more money and of course to keep on making new costumes.
So why are they so opposed to it happening ?
No not having enough people for your pug here is not a good awnser.
From a business side -
I dont think it should be at the paid subscription time period, as they may not get enough pay to play people.
I think it should be just after they switched over to free to play, before the 1st bam nerf, before the quest removals occured.
To be fair we can condense everything you said into one single sentence: Leveling was many times better in old TERA, I want that part back.
There you go, one thing that we sure could get back to the game. Leave some form of power grind/farming for alt people that don't feel like doing the lengthy leveling yet again, and bring back the lengthy but fun one from before as well. Done. No stamina and lack of teleporting crap just for the sake of a single good part.
Same with the old dungeons, they can (and should) be brought back from time to time, and to be fair, I agree with the strategy of rotating them to an extent. People can get too spread out between queues or LFGs if all options are available, OR it can get stale yet again. This does happen, there's no way to deny that old dungeons also got "old" quickly as well, not as quickly as new ones is up to debate but still do get stale. The rotation of them makes it less stale in this aspect, even tho I also agree it is annoying to lose the dungeon you like for another half a year or so. Denying they got stale is just the same old rosy glasses of nostalgia, which is in big part the whole point of this thread. The stamina system for f's sake, the lack of teleporting to another areas you haven't been into with your 37th character, the disgrace of enchanting we had back then... No thanks to any of that.
Frankly, bringing back the argument of the SNES and NES classic mini is stretching this by FAR. There's a huge gigantic difference in comparing nostalgia to a game console that was the childhood of many adults now, about 30 years ago, to that of a little bit more than 5 years. Games were a VASTLY different experience back then compared to the spam of crazy fast FPS ones we have now, TERA changed some parts keeping the exact same core and graphics. Heck the new Nokia 3310 has nothing to do with the old one save for form factor, it's just a reboot loosely inspired on the old classic/meme. Vinyl collecting is also nothing like that, in a sense it has never actually died out completely, the moment it got replaced in masses by CD and later file based audio, it was still a hobby type of thing. It's an entirely different story.
In my opinion, we should be working on improving the current version we have, instead of reverting back 5+ years. We can, and I agree we SHOULD, revert some or even many things back to the way they were, if not permanently (like dungeons or mass events à la Nexus), then at least temporarily. Leveling is one thing, Nexus too, some dungeons could see the light again, Kumasylum at least some temporary comeback, CS Lv 30+ permanent back please, controller camera direction selector back please, I can't even play melee properly, one of the many reasons I play just every now and then nowadays. As you see, I also have my oldie preferences on TERA, but no I definitely don't want it back to the way it was entirely on start. Specially don't want to lose my twin braids and cute 2017 maid costumes no matter what you say about immersivity.
Good luck with your impossible wish list lol.
The only thing I'm actually opposed to, is allocating current servers to a legacy one. The current ones are bad enough at their task as-is, let alone adding more load to them.
It's frign' obvious that it's a question of "don't like? don't play!" Same with any costume or new dungeon (dungeons even have the argument of drops), but as said above, no, just no splitting of current servers.
What I don't understand is why that much focus on bringing it ALL to a state of pay to play instead of keeping the good we have and bringing back the good old as well. The full bringing of it to an old state is as I said, more like a rosy glasses of nostalgia move, and using arguments that more/most people liked it more as it was back then and it was all better is plain wrong, as we do know the game wasn't doing so well on it's last days of pay to play. Some things we miss, some we just waved back and watched it go away with a tear of joy on the eyes.
I'm definitely not against making this as an alternative IF they don't mess with current build for that, which includes servers. Whoever dreams can get too big too fast and too delusional at times, and the financial side of things is what will rule it all, which at least I cannot see succeeding at all, much less on a pay to play method.
You're right, myself and others who share similar opinions are not the target demographic. Hell, I already said in my original post that a "legacy server" might reduce the number of (ahem) hyper-elitists in the current servers, which then might reduce the number of threads/comments made about other players acting like complete bellends.
My only concern is thus: do you really want some of the things like in the OP? I mean sit down and really think about whether or not you want some of those things back in the game.
I completed that quest on like 10 characters, I miss those days
And besides that, the response also included "you think it's easy, but it's not." The world server and game client themselves are not even half the issue; they'd also have to consider deeper integrations to their backend systems (account management, store, instance servers, etc.) Plus, all the serious bugs and exploits that were in the old code that have since been fixed would have to be ported back. So you can't literally turn back time. You basically have to make a new game that has some elements of the old game, combined with a lot of code from the new one. And besides, are you just going to keep it locked on that old version forever and ever? What happens when people get bored of the old version?
So yeah, I agree with what many have said that it's better to focus on the specific things people miss and push for similar things to be added back to the current and future versions. Even though that may seem like a big ask, it's much less difficult than creating a "classic" server.
Not even battleground.
U guys realize this, right?