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Please stop making brawlers if you don't know how to tank endgame.

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  • Wi2ardWi2ard ✭✭✭
    @Wi2ard
    I’ll refrain from getting further into this issue with you, as it seems you do not know of the matters in which you are speaking on. When queuing up for a dungeon, it automatically ensures you have 3 dps, a tank, and a healer so you can complete the dungeon. The problem is most of the Brawlers our there are making the class without understanding that it is in fact a tank, and will automatically queue you as the tank. Thus the group has 4 dps and one healer, which results in a bad experience for everyone. All I want is for people to understand that so dungeons can get done. Atleast until enmasse adds a dps option for brawlers, if you are a brawler and do not know how to tank, do everyone a favor and please do not queue up as the dungeon WILL NOT get completed.


    I won't refrain from getting further into this issue with you, no matter how condescending your comments about what you assume I do or do not understand.

    If the game is creating parties that cannot complete the dungeon, thats poor game design. A well designed game takes into account that some players like taking certain classes who are a particular role and attempt to make them fit a different role. Thats basic player psycology. A player will always do what a player wants to do. A good game must be flexible enough to Accommodate.
  • > @Wi2ard said:
    > NyxarrasAchilles wrote: »
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    > @Wi2ard
    > I’ll refrain from getting further into this issue with you, as it seems you do not know of the matters in which you are speaking on. When queuing up for a dungeon, it automatically ensures you have 3 dps, a tank, and a healer so you can complete the dungeon. The problem is most of the Brawlers our there are making the class without understanding that it is in fact a tank, and will automatically queue you as the tank. Thus the group has 4 dps and one healer, which results in a bad experience for everyone. All I want is for people to understand that so dungeons can get done. Atleast until enmasse adds a dps option for brawlers, if you are a brawler and do not know how to tank, do everyone a favor and please do not queue up as the dungeon WILL NOT get completed.
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    > I won't refrain from getting further into this issue with you, no matter how condescending your comments about what you assume I do or do not understand.
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    > If the game is creating parties that cannot complete the dungeon, thats poor game design. A well designed game takes into account that some players like taking certain classes who are a particular role and attempt to make them fit a different role. Thats basic player psycology. A player will always do what a player wants to do. A good game must be flexible enough to Accommodate.

    Don’t know a single game that does that, sorry. By your logic a warrior should be able to heal because it’s “basic player psychology”. But they can’t. Because that’s how games are designed. Different classes fill different rolls, and if you’re to ignorant to understand that then I guess I’ll just consider you a troll from here on out.
  • Wi2ard wrote: »
    @Wi2ard
    I’ll refrain from getting further into this issue with you, as it seems you do not know of the matters in which you are speaking on. When queuing up for a dungeon, it automatically ensures you have 3 dps, a tank, and a healer so you can complete the dungeon. The problem is most of the Brawlers our there are making the class without understanding that it is in fact a tank, and will automatically queue you as the tank. Thus the group has 4 dps and one healer, which results in a bad experience for everyone. All I want is for people to understand that so dungeons can get done. Atleast until enmasse adds a dps option for brawlers, if you are a brawler and do not know how to tank, do everyone a favor and please do not queue up as the dungeon WILL NOT get completed.


    I won't refrain from getting further into this issue with you, no matter how condescending your comments about what you assume I do or do not understand.

    If the game is creating parties that cannot complete the dungeon, thats poor game design. A well designed game takes into account that some players like taking certain classes who are a particular role and attempt to make them fit a different role. Thats basic player psycology. A player will always do what a player wants to do. A good game must be flexible enough to Accommodate.

    its not poor design when you chose to play a character that is designated to only be a tank, if you wanted to play a tank class that can dps then go play a warrior. if you try to tell me that a brawler is a dps class then you are sadly mistaken. http://tera.enmasse.com/game/classes/brawler the website says different.

    brawler_zpsjnzzvrfc.jpg
    facts don't lie sorry bub your logic is flawed.
  • M6KPMHHLR3 wrote: »
    > @Wi2ard said:
    > People should make whatever they want and play it however they want. Don't expect people to play according to your idea, or even the general consensus, of how something should be played and you won't be upset by how people play. In other words, "we are not bothered by things, but by our opinions of things."

    Im.going to queue up in endgame as a DPS priest no heals.

    XD that'd be amusing to see because as priests hit like pillows.
  • M6KPMHHLR3 wrote: »
    > @Badboibunneh said:
    > M6KPMHHLR3 wrote: »
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    > > @Wi2ard said:
    > > People should make whatever they want and play it however they want. Don't expect people to play according to your idea, or even the general consensus, of how something should be played and you won't be upset by how people play. In other words, "we are not bothered by things, but by our opinions of things."
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    > Im.going to queue up in endgame as a DPS priest no heals.
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    > XD that'd be amusing to see because as priests hit like pillows.

    Someone said i can be whatever i want to be regardless of the role i chose.

    Taking off all my heals aa we speak.

    Tornadoes all day :bleep_bloop:

    i chose to be a healer so i'll still be one but if i ever run in to a brawler who refuses to tank they are getting the boot.
  • Wi2ardWi2ard ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    > @Wi2ard said:
    > NyxarrasAchilles wrote: »
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    > @Wi2ard
    > I’ll refrain from getting further into this issue with you, as it seems you do not know of the matters in which you are speaking on. When queuing up for a dungeon, it automatically ensures you have 3 dps, a tank, and a healer so you can complete the dungeon. The problem is most of the Brawlers our there are making the class without understanding that it is in fact a tank, and will automatically queue you as the tank. Thus the group has 4 dps and one healer, which results in a bad experience for everyone. All I want is for people to understand that so dungeons can get done. Atleast until enmasse adds a dps option for brawlers, if you are a brawler and do not know how to tank, do everyone a favor and please do not queue up as the dungeon WILL NOT get completed.
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    > I won't refrain from getting further into this issue with you, no matter how condescending your comments about what you assume I do or do not understand.
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    > If the game is creating parties that cannot complete the dungeon, thats poor game design. A well designed game takes into account that some players like taking certain classes who are a particular role and attempt to make them fit a different role. Thats basic player psycology. A player will always do what a player wants to do. A good game must be flexible enough to Accommodate.

    Don’t know a single game that does that

    D&D, table top. Some of the Infinity Engine games.

    [/quote"NyxarrasAchilles;c-222681"]
    By your logic a warrior should be able to heal because it’s “basic player psychology”. But they can’t. Because that’s how games are designed. Different classes fill different rolls, and if you’re to ignorant to understand that then I guess I’ll just consider you a troll from here on out.[/quote]

    My logic was never that a 'warrior should be able to heal'. It is that people may try to play one that fits a role that it was not designed for and no ammount of snarky posting or condescending attitude will change that.

    The game is creating parties that cannot complete dungeons. Put a ticket in with Enmasse. People will play what they want how they want. Join a guild and only play with them ,IDK.
  • Wi2ardWi2ard ✭✭✭
    edited April 2018
    M6KPMHHLR3 wrote: »
    > @Wi2ard said:
    > People should make whatever they want and play it however they want. Don't expect people to play according to your idea, or even the general consensus, of how something should be played and you won't be upset by how people play. In other words, "we are not bothered by things, but by our opinions of things."

    Im.going to queue up in endgame as a DPS priest no heals.

    I appreciate the fun your having, even if it's caustic sarcasm, but if thats what you want to do with your priest than so be it. Eventually it Won't be fun. People will eventually get tired of failing dungeons and research how to be more effective, and possibly play that way or roll up a character that fits their play style. However, you will always find people trying to put a square peg in a round hole, they don't care if people are yelling to use the round peg.
  • BadboibunnehBadboibunneh ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Wi2ard wrote: »
    D&D, table top. Some of the Infinity Engine games.
    By your logic a warrior should be able to heal because it’s “basic player psychology”. But they can’t. Because that’s how games are designed. Different classes fill different rolls, and if you’re to ignorant to understand that then I guess I’ll just consider you a troll from here on out.

    My logic was never that a 'warrior should be able to heal'. It is that people may try to play one that fits a role that it was not designed for and no ammount of snarky posting or condescending attitude will change that.

    The game is creating parties that cannot complete dungeons. Put a ticket in with Enmasse. People will play what they want how they want. Join a guild and only play with them ,IDK.

    i love how you are just ignoring my posts, the game isnt creating partys that cannot complete the dungeon its creating partys with classes that are ment to beable to complete the dungeon, if the tank is a brawler that wants to dps then that tank needs to either wise up or they will never be in a dungeon unless its a premade with someone thats willing to tank instead because they will just keep getting kicked from the dungeon.

    no one will tolerate foolishness of a tank only class that thinks they are a dps.
  • Wi2ardWi2ard ✭✭✭
    no one will tolerate foolishness of a tank only class that thinks they are a dps.

    Best thing you've said this entire time. It is the absolute unarguable truth. It is the reason why you will see people filling their roles after the game has been out more than 3 days.
  • BadboibunnehBadboibunneh ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    Wi2ard wrote: »
    no one will tolerate foolishness of a tank only class that thinks they are a dps.

    Best thing you've said this entire time. It is the absolute unarguable truth. It is the reason why you will see people filling their roles after the game has been out more than 3 days.

    game has been out on console for over a week headstart was on the 27th thats why there are so many people who are 65 and so many brawlers who actually know how to play their class and dont think that they are a dps role.

    but if you want to play a brawler and act like a dps role in dungeons then power to you see how far it gets you and then maybe you'll wise up and start filling the role the class is ment for.
  • Wi2ardWi2ard ✭✭✭
    Tell you what. I'll even make a tank and play it as a tank just to help that day come about s
    Wi2ard wrote: »
    no one will tolerate foolishness of a tank only class that thinks they are a dps.

    Best thing you've said this entire time. It is the absolute unarguable truth. It is the reason why you will see people filling their roles after the game has been out more than 3 days.

    game has been out on console for over a week headstart was on the 27th thats why there are so many people who are 65 and so many brawlers who actually know how to play their class and dont think that they are a dps role.

    Oh, don't split hairs now.

    Tell you what. I'll even make a tank and play it as a tank just to help that day come about sooner.
  • I definitely do understand this.. It's such a dang nightmare to have to try to keep them alive while trying to keep everyone ELSE alive because they can't keep agro.. I just left a necromancers tomb because before the first boss hit 80%, I had died 6 times as a Mystic because the Brawler would NOT taunt or even remotely try to keep agro. I'd get back up, heal, and then immediately have agro again. It was ridiculous and I do think EME should probably just nerf their DPS capabilities into the ground. I'm so sick and tired of seeing a brawler in the party when I get into a dungeon, and I always have some breath of relief when I see a lancer in there, too, thanks to the "having a hard time finding you a group" thing..

    The bad part with giving them a DPS and Tank stance like Warrior, is you'll prob just get more of the same that's been the problem with Warrior since this game released on PC in 2012. You have these people queueing as a tank just for the quick queues.
  • BadboibunnehBadboibunneh ✭✭
    edited April 2018
    I definitely do understand this.. It's such a dang nightmare to have to try to keep them alive while trying to keep everyone ELSE alive because they can't keep agro.. I just left a necromancers tomb because before the first boss hit 80%, I had died 6 times as a Mystic because the Brawler would NOT taunt or even remotely try to keep agro. I'd get back up, heal, and then immediately have agro again. It was ridiculous and I do think EME should probably just nerf their DPS capabilities into the ground. I'm so sick and tired of seeing a brawler in the party when I get into a dungeon, and I always have some breath of relief when I see a lancer in there, too, thanks to the "having a hard time finding you a group" thing..

    The bad part with giving them a DPS and Tank stance like Warrior, is you'll prob just get more of the same that's been the problem with Warrior since this game released on PC in 2012. You have these people queueing as a tank just for the quick queues.

    the first boss in necromancer tomb aggro jumps from the tank to the healer you just have to try to out heal the dmg or run from the boss and the boss will eventually return to the tank, the tank cant do anything about that.
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