IOD Keening Dawn Mote 100% covered ??

TheGreyWolf · June 2016

I love the keen motes, helps an old archer kill these BAMs in a (somewhat) reasonable time. That being said, I consider them to be special treats. Would I appreciate having more of them? Of course. But I'm not going to complain if I don't get them.

I know the IoD BAMs are supposed to be "challenging" (i.e., boring PITAs that take forever to kill, unless you're a brewlar or some other OP class). I'm okay with that.

I know they were meant to be solo content. As a solo player, I'm absolutely okay with that also (pls no more TAR, I'd like to be able to do my dailies in peace without being told to leave because some group has already "claimed" the entire channel).

As several people have already mentioned, what we really need is class balance, not more motes, or less BAM hp, or whatever. Just give us poor archers and sorcs and other underappreciated classes (zerks, priests, slayers, etc., all those who at one time or another understood what it is to struggle) a little bit of love (aka buffs).

Yes, I'm living proof that an archer CAN solo these BAMs, even on the potato that I refer to as my computer (at this point I'm thinking my smart phone might get a better framerate), but that doesn't mean that we SHOULD. Most people would call me an idiot for even wasting my time with an archer, when I have brewlar and rooper and gunrar alts, and those people are right. But I'm a stubborn idiot who happens to like being an archer. Even if it means nobody wants to be my friend. Even if it means it takes me 10x longer to do stuff. Even if it means BHS hates me and they'd rather give me nerfs than buffs (lol, nerf archer, archer way way too OP, pls nerf more).

Keen motes are just a pathetic bandaid to temporarily patch a long term problem. Yeah, we get it, your brewlar can solo 10,000 BAMs in 30 seconds. Good for you, pat yourself on the back, since I'm sure you have a spare hand available. No, not hating; as I said, I also have a brewlar and gunrar. Not 65 yet because I fall asleep every time I try to level them. It's my own fault for playing archer. I don't blame anyone else. Not even mad at BHS for creating a class and then spending the next 4 years pretending it doesn't exist. At least they had the courtesy to create the class in the first place (and it's not even race or gender locked, bonus!). I just kinda hope, and wish, and dream, that someday, maybe someday, BHS will decide to make legacy classes great again.

(lol, I knew I'd hate myself for using that line, but I did it anyway)

JoHighnes · June 2016

TheGreyWolf, the next class balance patch archers will get a passive +15% crit chance against monsters. It will be neat. I love my archer and I'd play her a lot more if not for the long dps queues... and for the non-stacking velik's mark. Seriously, that's as if warriors would be forced to share edge... oh. Either way, kudos to you. Archer is a great and fun class, and not as weak in dungeons as people make it out to be. And it will be even stronger after the next balancing!

Vesporax · June 2016

My front crit priest clears just as fast as my dps. The only one that's faster is my gunner. i don't have a brawler, so I wouldn't know about that. Facetanking is more fun anyway.

They should make giants have 100% drop on keen motes though.

Sythien · June 2016

https://www.twitch.tv/dtmaik/v/70911130

Thats how IoD farming is atm on EU(he is doing it on 2 Charas, Reaper and Lancer) IoD dailies on Zerk(3x Shadetop,3xShadecore and 2x the weak ones) taking like 24m in total. EU doesn't have the buffed VG though.

TheGreyWolf · June 2016

@JoHighnes I am really looking forward to the (supposed?) archer buffs... the non-stacking of VM sucks, but it's kind of irrelevant for solo players like myself (and I don't imagine too many groups take 2 archers into a dungeon anyway)... archer IS a fun class, and I find that my archer can oftentimes clear stuff quicker than my reapers (though in fairness, I'm much more experienced with archer than I am with reaper).

@Vesporax It's also good to hear that priests no longer have problems doing solo content; good for them. I always felt bad for solo priests trying to kill BAMs. Though now it seems they can do it better than us archers and sorcs?? Which is... perplexing, to say the least. Tell me again why I continue to play a subpar dps with no self heal? Oh, right, because I enjoy it... (still would appreciate a self heal, pots can get expensive). Though I must say, if you enjoy facetanking, you will probably enjoy brawler (unless you meant to say facetanking is NO fun anyway). As for giants, I'd actually trade keen motes for anti-knockdown motes. Seems like that's all they know how to do, is charge back and forth knocking me down every chance they get. Quite annoying.

MikazukiTsuki · June 2016

Vesporax wrote: »

My front crit priest clears just as fast as my dps. The only one that's faster is my gunner. i don't have a brawler, so I wouldn't know about that. Facetanking is more fun anyway.

They should make giants have 100% drop on keen motes though.

Considering how brawler's weapon atk mod and their own skill base damage are very high. Facetanking with wrathful set-up pretty much kills any bams quickly due to how much their skills crit. They kill even faster with backcrit crystal set up. My brawler's dreadnaught kills as fast as my ninja in slaughter so once i get slaughter to my brawler, basically a few burst and be done under 10 mins xD

xxeellooss · June 2016

maintain everything = yes
gave up double for keen = no

i even have second account just for the IoD
1st brawler + 2nd reaper
1st gunner + 2nd ninja
1st reaper + 2nd brawler
1st ninja + 2nd priest
(other char zerk and scor i didnt do it)
1st account full slaughter , 2nd account only brawler and ninja full slaughter.
so basically my way of clearing is using brawler or ninja to kill 20,
hard time matching or sometimes the quest not the same(so ninja and brawler does it all),
it takes about 4hours to finish all chars 3high,3mid,2low.
so, i rather choose the double VG

Sinastria · June 2016

I'd just like to decide the order wich i kill them.

It's so hard to team up with other players at the moment, and i'd rather not soloing them wven with the brawler just because the random banther with your friends make the task les mind numbing.

Catorii · June 2016

Nopi wrote: »

I was just hopeful because I've read in a guide somewhere that wrathful, a crystal that specifically says is for front crit only, apparently works from the side too. Though maybe it's just what you experienced with starting an attack from wherever position the crystal activates and it's damage just rolling over as the enemy turns.

To clarify, Wrathful works on anything that's not a backcrit, so yes, sidecrits count. One of the friends in my static last patch used to use that to his advantage in certain situations on his brawler.

But it's also true that as an enemy is turning, your hits still count as backcrits/frontcrits until they're done turning.

Nopi · June 2016

Catorii wrote: »

Nopi wrote: »

I was just hopeful because I've read in a guide somewhere that wrathful, a crystal that specifically says is for front crit only, apparently works from the side too. Though maybe it's just what you experienced with starting an attack from wherever position the crystal activates and it's damage just rolling over as the enemy turns.

To clarify, Wrathful works on anything that's not a backcrit, so yes, sidecrits count. One of the friends in my static last patch used to use that to his advantage in certain situations on his brawler.

But it's also true that as an enemy is turning, your hits still count as backcrits/frontcrits until they're done turning.

Yeah. I decided to properly test it myself and it worked.

As for motes, my last farm. 10 giants, no motes. I have paper bag balance against them. Sad times.

IOD Keening Dawn Mote 100% covered ??

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