Sorc weakest class in game?

JEKXPLTWLJ · June 2016

Say there is a brawler and sorc in pvp.. same skill, gear, and level. would they do the same damage?

JoHighnes · June 2016

You are comparing sorc with brawler to determine if it's the weakest class in the game?

Compare vanilla classes with brawler and they all seem a bit weak. I've heard sorc is pretty good in pvp, but I have no real experience with that. All I know is they will get some significant pve buffs in the upcoming balance changes, so yea, right now they aren't that strong.

6kjkk · June 2016

All classes are good when right person playing them right. Sorc for pvp. They have a lot of skills, so, be ready to faceroll.

Stifflersmum · June 2016

Sorc in 1vs1 is very strong if you ask for PVP with it stuns/sleeps whatever u call it. you can often 100% > 0 HP ... in CS its still a good class with equalized gear...

its just lacking a bit PVE dmg which will be increased with the upcoming balance patches 9+10

kedros · June 2016

Watch this link. These are some of the best players in KTera doing 1vs1.
https://youtu.be/CDhE_KeYpro

How to show a video here tho...

Elure · June 2016

kedros wrote: »

Watch this link. These are some of the best players in KTera doing 1vs1.
https://youtu.be/CDhE_KeYpro
How to show a video here tho...

and showing the sorc losing like h.ell xD

Catorii · June 2016

Natsume260 wrote: »

sorcs are very overpowered in pvp and they need a nerf, they have [filtered] dps in pve doe :P

They already got a nerf. They're fine now.

The ability to stunlock through an entire rotation and 100-0 someone - that was OP. But they can't do that anymore. Good sorcs are still deadly in PvP, though.

kedros · June 2016

Elure wrote: »

kedros wrote: »

Watch this link. These are some of the best players in KTera doing 1vs1.
https://youtu.be/CDhE_KeYpro
How to show a video here tho...

and showing the sorc losing like h.ell xD

I didnt say Sorc would be top tier according to the video. neither am i saying any other class is better/worse than the others. this is just reference material. Personally i found most of these fights amazing, at times i would have f'ed up right after te start.

Also this is 1vs1, while sorc excels more in group pvp i believe. and if you take this vid as absolute proof, then Lancer is the best pvp'er according to me

Nopi · June 2016

From what I understand, the very best kTera players don't post videos because they think showing off is not honorable. Also they are rather secretive on their play style. At least that's what I read from a ninja kTera guide.

As for sorc, yes they have a lot of skills that can dominate in pvp when well used and rotated. But in pve, their damage is not the best right now. I have a sorc and a Slayer both with DN gear and Slaughter weapon and belt, and at least farming IoD I can say I have more or less the same skill with both classes, but the Slayer usually gets the faster kills, and I DO spam the heck out of celerity and overchannel on my sorc and use a setup more or less akin to Yosha's, rotations and all that, but more tuned for IoD farming and my own capabilities.

The new classes are still very OP for pve. My ninja gets ridiculously fast kills on IoD for example, and with brawler you can simply stand in place and toss an endless stream of damage, not possible on most older classes because the need to dodge and positioning.

Nopi · June 2016

sestina wrote: »

Newer classes > Legacy classes.

Weakest DPS right now is Warrior. Only damage source is Scythe, that's it. Everything else is pitiful. I haven't seen a Warrior in two weeks. But hey there's an excuse that they are getting buffed though! Same excuse we'll say everyday on a weak class where we can say "oh it's getting buffed though!"

I did some IoD farming on my warrior two days ago. Guess you missed me. Well I'm on TR and other than me I've seen very few warriors indeed. And just as you said, scythe is the only thing that does any significant damage on IoD, so I glyphed what I could to speed edge stacking.

BlackMagesKool · June 2016

A decent sorc is good to have in IMS, as a kinda sorc main dodging most mechanics is incredibly easy with warp barrier stone skin (oh [filtered] button) jaunt and backstep and Glaicial retreat e.g if you have ever IMS demokran factory you'll see a lot of ppl just fail to dodge mechanics real bad (some lag ping related but I can't see laser and I can dodge it sometimes and I have 18-22 fps and 270-320+ ping but most of the group die when lb does the wave mechanic I had a few runs where I was the last one standing

BlackMagesKool · June 2016

sestina wrote: »

Newer classes > Legacy classes.

Weakest DPS right now is Warrior. Only damage source is Scythe, that's it. Everything else is pitiful. I haven't seen a Warrior in two weeks. But hey there's an excuse that they are getting buffed though! Same excuse we'll say everyday on a weak class where we can say "oh it's getting buffed though!"

War may low dps but I love having a good one in a group, they never take dmg and dem endurance debuff

Nopi · June 2016

sestina wrote: »

Nopi wrote: »

sestina wrote: »

Newer classes > Legacy classes.

Weakest DPS right now is Warrior. Only damage source is Scythe, that's it. Everything else is pitiful. I haven't seen a Warrior in two weeks. But hey there's an excuse that they are getting buffed though! Same excuse we'll say everyday on a weak class where we can say "oh it's getting buffed though!"

I did some IoD farming on my warrior two days ago. Guess you missed me. Well I'm on TR and other than me I've seen very few warriors indeed. And just as you said, scythe is the only thing that does any significant damage on IoD, so I glyphed what I could to speed edge stacking.

I'm on TR yeah so I did missed you I suppose. The blade draw crit is what they really need cause lmao at rising fury, poison blade, and other edge stacking skill that doesn't do any damage. My friend quit Warrior for Ninja (not a surprising twist!) and may try Warrior again with the new buffs.

IF blade draw had more crit chance, yeah, warrior could do a ton more damage. Even at full end debuff, warrior damage right now is laughable. At least the class helps others through that debuff. The case of sorc is a bit worse. They may have a bunch of i-frames, but you can't slow, stun or sleep a boss in a dungeon as most are immune to CC, and every party can clear all other mobs easily without a sorc. So what you get as sorc is a bit more i-frame survivability, which again, other classes are also good at if properly played.

Itrysil · June 2016

warrior blade draw is quick, has 50% reset glyph and hits for 2mil, combat strike has 3sec CD, and hits for 500k-1mil, scythe hits for 4-7mil every 8 secs, i know we warriors can be outclassed by higher dps classes, but a good warrior can out dps a lot of the people who are playing these new classes, just cuz someone is on a class that people see as high dps does not mean that person will be higher dps, i have out dpsed many gunners, ninjas and brawlers... even with them in the same gear. I main a starfall warrior.

Nopi · June 2016

Itrysil wrote: »

warrior blade draw is quick, has 50% reset glyph and hits for 2mil, combat strike has 3sec CD, and hits for 500k-1mil, scythe hits for 4-7mil every 8 secs, i know we warriors can be outclassed by higher dps classes, but a good warrior can out dps a lot of the people who are playing these new classes, just cuz someone is on a class that people see as high dps does not mean that person will be higher dps, i have out dpsed many gunners, ninjas and brawlers... even with them in the same gear. I main a starfall warrior.

You are more skilled than many other warriors out there and you took the effort to gear up to SF. On my DN warrior that I love a lot but don't main, I can hardly see 1.5 mill crits now and then when soloing IoD bams. I assume I could see much better results in a party with a buffing healer and if I decide to get at least a Slaughter weapon (which believe me it's in the plans)

The main difference between warrior, sorc and all old classes compared to all the new classes is the ease of use. Yes, you may be out-dps-ing the new classes, but how many warriors out there are skilled and geared enough for that? Matching average warrior/sorc/whatever old class player with average new class player, the numbers will favor the new classes almost all the time. Which is why we see so many complains about the old classes being underpowered on the current circumstances. The new classes simply pushed for a power creep in the whole game.

Darkshneider · June 2016

This comes from someone that played tera since its release.Im a sorc/wizard fan in all types of rpg games.Usually in games,and it used to be the case with Tera too,is that offensive caster/aka wizards/sorcs are extreme burst dps,but they are very fragile and squishy if they miss an iframe or a protective buff.Like in the description when you create a sorc in tera,they are flagged as strong burst dps class and in the early tera days,it used to be the case.I was a very dedicated sorc,and fairly skilled,and up to the gunner patch,i could outps pretty much anyone else with equal gear,but what happened next is,sorcerers lost their "role" suddenly other classes got buffs,archers,slayers..but they didnt,also the newer classes do the "burst" role better,and they are tanky as they do so ((aka gunner)) the ninja is squish,but their dps is just right to the type of armor they wear which is cloth,but then you have sorc, a cloth caster that has the dps of a wet noodle,and just to keep up with an equally geared of the newer classes with average skill,ya got to be master or god tier in your playstyle,and when you find a maser or god tier of the newer classes,ya got no chance to keep up.Im all talking about pve here cause sorc got a good skill "kit" for pvp but thats about it.But when it comes to fulfill the role they were created for,they just fall short.I dream the day when sorcs get their role back then ill go back to play my sorc as a main that i played for MANY years,but as of right now,its "fun" to play but it dosent feel rewarding at all

Sorc weakest class in game?

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